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Trump official: ‘Lazy’ black people turn cities to ‘slums’

Slingshot Bob said:
Why would you let an investment starve? That makes no sense.
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The Black Africans i meant were not Personalleiter owned and could be cheaply replaced much als free White labour could bei before the Civil War. That is why these latter were less well fed and maintained than plantation slaves were at the same time.
 
SheWolf said:
A lot of immigrants are well educated. Slaves weren't even taught to read or write. There is a still a serious education divide along racial lines in America. It says nothing about some kind of racial inferiority of American black populations.
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It is more probable that it is an ethnic divide than a racial one, is what i said, actually.
 
What if...? said:
I'm saying that the redistribution of wealth that occurred in the mid seventies is a primary contributing factor.

Its been harder for every everybody in the lower quintiles since then. They've all been living on the same income adjusted for inflation for 40 years.

Treading water.

And treading water for generations kills hope.
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That is a very reasonable assumption, i Soulsänger say.
 
volsrock said:
Or maybe it was The Great Society of LBJ that did the deed. At any rate, the truth is not always found in the government.
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Oh, yes. I am sure centuries of slavery followed by systematic discrimination and bigotry and learned helplessness had nothing to do with it, I am sure.
 
bluesmoke said:
So, you disagree with the electorate, the majority that elected Trump?
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The majority of the voting population voted for Hilldog by nearly 3mil, a fact which burns Trump to no end. I suppose thats why Hilldog keeps repeating the story, she should get nastier with Trump. She has nothing to loose as her political career is over.
 
joG said:
It is true that the colonists and later the warlords could replace their labor more easily. But the American Blacks haven’t been slaves and well kept in well over a hundred years. They also weren’t fixed up with social programs until after the late sixties and later. It is there that we should probably look gor the problem that minority has.
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So are you saying before the social programs African Americans were better off? Even with Redlining (systematic segregation), systematic discrimination, and no Civil Rights? None of that has to do with anything? Please explain?
 
FastPace said:
In Milwaukee the 2 largest waves came from Mississippi (most) and Tennessee (second most). Milwaukee caught the tale end of the Great Migration--and most Black-Americans in Milwaukee have family in Chicago too.
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Well, just as Blacks started getting factory jobs, American manufacturing collapsed in the 70's and 80's. Places like Milwaukee and Detroit were devastated. I guess factory job availability explains why there were so many Blacks in manufacturing cities like Detroit.

Keep in mind that if we're talking about the 50's and 60's, segregation was still a reality. Even factory jobs paid well and some Blacks benefited during that period of American manufacturing, factory jobs don't require education. Professional jobs and access to education was a real problem.

The bottom line is that it's absurd to compare Black Americans to Jewish immigrants or any immigrants.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Mods delete thread already exists. Posted in the existing thread.



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https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/tr...es-to-slums-through-drug-use-and-promiscuity/

This is Reverend Jamie Johnson. This man is actually a reverend. And this is why I say that the Christian Right no longer has any real Christianity.

This guy was spouting this nonsense on conservative talk radio where people had no problem with the racist stuff he said. How many conservatives think like him.

So, let's go over just how stupid his claims are:

1. Jewish immigrants "in the early part of the 1800’s immediately rolled up their sleeves"

Hmm...what were the "lazy" Black people doing in the early 1800's? Oh yeah, picking cotton for free under slavery. So lazy of them.

2. He says these Jewish immigrants, "applied themselves to education and other means of improvement and other means of climbing the, I hate this phrase, but the social ladder"

Hmm...why didn't these "lazy" Black people do the same? Oh yeah, during slavery weren't allowed to learn to read.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-literacy_law

It's not until the 1960's Civil Rights Act that schools began desegregating. And that was a huge fight that tore the country apart. The South didn't want to desegregate. Sadly, schools are still segregated today because of economics.

3. He says Jewish people are successful "Because they work."

Hmm...when exactly was a Black man allowed to get a basic job like firefighter or policeman? Probably the 1970's some Black men were able to get basic jobs. Other immigrants were accumulating wealth from the 1800's and here we have Blacks finally able to get basic jobs and attend schools in the 1970's.

Think about this, until Jackie Robinson in 1947 Black men weren't even allowed to play professional baseball. Yes, Baseball! Forget any other decent job.

Imagine how damaging it is if for GENERATIONS men in a community are prevented from getting basic jobs. You need a job to support a family and raise children and to pass on wealth to your children.

How is it rational to compare the success of Jewish immigrants to Black in America? So, after all the brutal horrors that Blacks have faced in America, conservatives like Rev. Jamie Johnson then blame Blacks for the consequences of the injustices tha were imposed upon them.
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It’s 2017 now, not 1970, roll your damn sleeves up and go to work, stop bitching about who owes y’all,
It’s one excuse after another.
Oh and the white man set y’all free too. After they paid good money for slaves from other blacks.


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joG said:
The Black Africans i meant were not Personalleiter owned and could be cheaply replaced much als free White labour could bei before the Civil War. That is why these latter were less well fed and maintained than plantation slaves were at the same time.
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I don't know what you mean by "personalleiter" owned means. But it still makes no sense, I am sure a slave likely cost more to replace than the food needed to keep one alive. Not to mention, the cost of a replacement, who would also require food.

That would be counterproductive to a profit.
 
MrShangles said:
It’s 2017 now, not 1970, roll your damn sleeves up and go to work, stop bitching about who owes y’all,
It’s one excuse after another.
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I have a job. I'm a software engineer at a major investment bank. Do you have any other suggestions?

No one said anything about anyone owing anything. The issue in OP was Rev. Jamie Johnson's comparison of Jewish immigrants to American Blacks. He said that when Jewish immigrants arrived in America in the early 1800's they immediately started working hard. It's just a fact that most Black Americans were slaves in the early 1800's. So, they were working hard. Just not getting paid. It's just a dumb comparison. But it's not surprising, given that racism is more common in dumb people. It's just very easy to blame everything. No thinking is required.

Blacks have made a lot of progress in terms of wealth since the Civil Rights era. Successful Blacks like Dr. Ben Carson or the Obama's are more common today than ever. It takes time to undo the damage that was done.
 
LunaRose said:
So are you saying before the social programs African Americans were better off? Even with Redlining (systematic segregation), systematic discrimination, and no Civil Rights? None of that has to do with anything? Please explain?
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I would say that the problems have become more intractable without having put the Black ethnic on a sustainable course. Au contraire, as a matter of fact.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
I don't know what you mean by "personalleiter" owned means. But it still makes no sense, I am sure a slave likely cost more to replace than the food needed to keep one alive. Not to mention, the cost of a replacement, who would also require food.

That would be counterproductive to a profit.
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I am sorry about that. I typed it on a new ipad that I hadn't set properly. Auto correct was not set to include English.

But the not being owned meant that free laborers did not have to be sustainably held, as they cost nothing to replace. Slaves, on the other hand, needed good maintenance to protect the value of the investment. They were better fed, cloathed and housed that free populations of the time.
 
joG said:
I am sorry about that. I typed it on a new ipad that I hadn't set properly. Auto correct was not set to include English.

But the not being owned meant that free laborers did not have to be sustainably held, as they cost nothing to replace. Slaves, on the other hand, needed good maintenance to protect the value of the investment. They were better fed, cloathed and housed that free populations of the time.
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I see, I hate setting up electronics.
 
joG said:
I am sorry about that. I typed it on a new ipad that I hadn't set properly. Auto correct was not set to include English.

But the not being owned meant that free laborers did not have to be sustainably held, as they cost nothing to replace. Slaves, on the other hand, needed good maintenance to protect the value of the investment. They were better fed, cloathed and housed that free populations of the time.
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It was commong practice that hildren were systematically taken from their mothers and sold to other slave owners at a very young age, and families were systematically broken up to keep them from a sense of unity or continuity. Many slave mothers committed suicide over this practice. Oh well. Cost of doing business. This went on for generations.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Well, just as Blacks started getting factory jobs, American manufacturing collapsed in the 70's and 80's. Places like Milwaukee and Detroit were devastated. I guess factory job availability explains why there were so many Blacks in manufacturing cities like Detroit.
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Yeah. And add to that that of the remaining factory jobs the US by design started flooding the US with Mexicans looking for work. A good portion of these remaining factory jobs in Milwaukee are filled by white Americans and Mexicans (the latter often not able to speak English) from Mexico (as opposed to born here). And to a lesser extent ethnic Black-American women.

In other words lets say there were 50 factory jobs in Milwaukee and 70 Black-Americans unemployed as looking to get those job slots. The US Democrats/Republicans brought in 45 Mexicans from Mexico into Milwaukee via allowing them entrance and encouraging them to come. So, now you had 115 people in Milwaukee applying for those 50 jobs with all 45 Mexicans getting 45 of the 50 slots.

Then you had Democrats run by the homo-feminist talk to these sellout black politicians to get them to rally Black-Americans to get up in arms over feminist, LGBTQ, rich white Democrat's interest (who want a financial piece of the regions around Russia, Libya, Syria, and any where on earth they can loot), and utterly ignore the needs and decline of their own ethnic people but for trying token things for them like "Obama phones."

Keep in mind that if we're talking about the 50's and 60's, segregation was still a reality. Even factory jobs paid well and some Blacks benefited during that period of American manufacturing, factory jobs don't require education. Professional jobs and access to education was a real problem.
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Racial segregation existed (it still does) back then as you said. All the well-to-do blacks and poor blacks lived side-by-side in Milwaukee then (before my time but I have been told anyways). By the 1970s middle-class Black-Americans were moving into neighborhoods like the Sherman Park neighborhood which had nicer housing. But quickly as time was rolling on more and more whites left the Sherman Park neighborhood. Thus it became (sections of it at least) a predominately middle-class black neighborhood. Today, more an more poor have been moving into it (as renters).





By the way, fast forward to the 15:00 mark of the video below. The woman on the phone from LA who is originally from Indiana, that is how the Black-American women raised in the middle-class homes and neighborhoods of Milwaukee sound in voice and diction. So, while can't know for sure, I suspect she was raised in the black middle-class in Indiana. That's the kind of female voices I grew up hearing. Partly. I had black extended family in the "ghetto" too and the younger women in those areas sound a bit different when they speak. Not a huge difference but recognizable I would say.

 
yankintx said:
The majority of the voting population voted for Hilldog by nearly 3mil, a fact which burns Trump to no end. I suppose thats why Hilldog keeps repeating the story, she should get nastier with Trump. She has nothing to loose as her political career is over.
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You didn't answer the question. In a Presidential election, it is a majority of the electorate, not of the voting populace, that elects the President. Do you agree with that outcome, or please explain your contention.
 
bluesmoke said:
You didn't answer the question. In a Presidential election, it is a majority of the electorate, not of the voting populace, that elects the President. Do you agree with that outcome, or please explain your contention.
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Never did I deny the results. Though that may change once Mr Muellers report is released. Im sure your adorables will be relieved when this is all over.
 
yankintx said:
Never did I deny the results. Though that may change once Mr Muellers report is released. Im sure your adorables will be relieved when this is all over.
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A weak, coy reply. You sound like the CIA "Neither confirm nor deny". I guess you just can't bring the truth to words, is my assessment.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Mods delete thread already exists. Posted in the existing thread.



Trump-and-Jamie-Johnson-cornerstone-800x430.png




https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/tr...es-to-slums-through-drug-use-and-promiscuity/

This is Reverend Jamie Johnson. This man is actually a reverend. And this is why I say that the Christian Right no longer has any real Christianity.

This guy was spouting this nonsense on conservative talk radio where people had no problem with the racist stuff he said. How many conservatives think like him.

So, let's go over just how stupid his claims are:

1. Jewish immigrants "in the early part of the 1800’s immediately rolled up their sleeves"

Hmm...what were the "lazy" Black people doing in the early 1800's? Oh yeah, picking cotton for free under slavery. So lazy of them.

2. He says these Jewish immigrants, "applied themselves to education and other means of improvement and other means of climbing the, I hate this phrase, but the social ladder"

Hmm...why didn't these "lazy" Black people do the same? Oh yeah, during slavery weren't allowed to learn to read.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-literacy_law

It's not until the 1960's Civil Rights Act that schools began desegregating. And that was a huge fight that tore the country apart. The South didn't want to desegregate. Sadly, schools are still segregated today because of economics.

3. He says Jewish people are successful "Because they work."

Hmm...when exactly was a Black man allowed to get a basic job like firefighter or policeman? Probably the 1970's some Black men were able to get basic jobs. Other immigrants were accumulating wealth from the 1800's and here we have Blacks finally able to get basic jobs and attend schools in the 1970's.

Think about this, until Jackie Robinson in 1947 Black men weren't even allowed to play professional baseball. Yes, Baseball! Forget any other decent job.

Imagine how damaging it is if for GENERATIONS men in a community are prevented from getting basic jobs. You need a job to support a family and raise children and to pass on wealth to your children.

How is it rational to compare the success of Jewish immigrants to Black in America? So, after all the brutal horrors that Blacks have faced in America, conservatives like Rev. Jamie Johnson then blame Blacks for the consequences of the injustices tha were imposed upon them.
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This is one of the most ugly things I have ever seen in the US. I was a teen when they fire hosed blacks for marching, and its been decades. The fact that a piece of ugly slime like this is still walking around is discouraging to say the least....and it will add to my growing distaste for anything American.

Then to bring Jesus into it. Does this turd know Jesus was "non-white"?

I know that not every American thinks like this, but you allow racists and bigots to work their way into key positions, you tolerate this ****. Here, I would be the first of many to lay hate speech charges and likely make them stick.

A few years being corn holed on a daily basis may mean he will find the "real" Jay-ZUZ"
 
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