Homeland Security Official Who Blamed Slums On 'Lazy Blacks' Quits

I'm absolutely shocked he quit. The normal republican way is to double down on stupidity when it happens. Well.... I'm sure we have some residents here that will double down for him. They will tell us all how he was right and it was Obama that really divided us.


Oh looky... he's a reverend. Jesus must be proud.

poweRob said:

I'm absolutely shocked he quit. The normal republican way is to double down on stupidity when it happens. Well.... I'm sure we have some residents here that will double down for him. They will tell us all how he was right and it was Obama that really divided us.

Homeland Security Official Who Blamed Slums On 'Lazy Blacks' Quits

A Homeland Security official in the Trump administration appointed to cultivate unity among community organizations has quit following publication of earlier comments in which he blamed slums on the “laziness, drug use and sexual promiscuity” of African-Americans.

CNN uncovered the statements the Rev. Jamie Johnson expressed while he was host of a radio program in Iowa and as a guest on other conservative shows. He made the comments about blacks and slums in 2008 on “The Right Balance” on Accent Radio Network, CNN reported.​

Oh looky... he's a reverend. Jesus must be proud.

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What a piece of ****. Glad he's gone.

TheGoverness said:

What a piece of ****. Glad he's gone.

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Now he can go back to his tax avoidance scam and preach his disdain for blacks there.

poweRob said:

I'm absolutely shocked he quit. The normal republican way is to double down on stupidity when it happens. Well.... I'm sure we have some residents here that will double down for him. They will tell us all how he was right and it was Obama that really divided us.

Homeland Security Official Who Blamed Slums On 'Lazy Blacks' Quits

A Homeland Security official in the Trump administration appointed to cultivate unity among community organizations has quit following publication of earlier comments in which he blamed slums on the “laziness, drug use and sexual promiscuity” of African-Americans.

CNN uncovered the statements the Rev. Jamie Johnson expressed while he was host of a radio program in Iowa and as a guest on other conservative shows. He made the comments about blacks and slums in 2008 on “The Right Balance” on Accent Radio Network, CNN reported.​

Oh looky... he's a reverend. Jesus must be proud.

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The more types of peope like this that get out of government, the better. I don't expect politicians to be perfect, but some standard of behavior should be expected.

I'm not a fan of people losing their jobs for things they said years before that has nothing to do their efficacy or job responsibilities.

I'm not fan of outrage radio, and I think his 2008 comments are vile, but does the pastor still feel this way? Was he good at his job? Does context matter at all? If all of us had to reveal our worst past utterances or behaviors, would we all starve for lack of employment?

GhostlyJoe said:

I'm not a fan of people losing their jobs for things they said years before that has nothing to do their efficacy or job responsibilities.

I'm not fan of outrage radio, and I think his 2008 comments are vile, but does the pastor still feel this way? Was he good at his job? Does context matter at all? If all of us had to reveal our worst past utterances or behaviors, would we all starve for lack of employment?

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Robert Byrd did not resign for things he said in the past....he was made into a hero of the left!

poweRob said:

I'm absolutely shocked he quit. The normal republican way is to double down on stupidity when it happens. Well.... I'm sure we have some residents here that will double down for him. They will tell us all how he was right and it was Obama that really divided us.

Homeland Security Official Who Blamed Slums On 'Lazy Blacks' Quits

A Homeland Security official in the Trump administration appointed to cultivate unity among community organizations has quit following publication of earlier comments in which he blamed slums on the “laziness, drug use and sexual promiscuity” of African-Americans.

CNN uncovered the statements the Rev. Jamie Johnson expressed while he was host of a radio program in Iowa and as a guest on other conservative shows. He made the comments about blacks and slums in 2008 on “The Right Balance” on Accent Radio Network, CNN reported.​

Oh looky... he's a reverend. Jesus must be proud.

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Guess what...The left made Byrd a hero despite his 'PAST' remarks on Blacks

volsrock said:

Robert Byrd did not resign for things he said in the past....he was made into a hero of the left!

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You need help.

GhostlyJoe said:

You need help.

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Did Byrd in the past make racist comments about blacks ?

yes or no

volsrock said:

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Guess what...The left made Byrd a hero despite his 'PAST' remarks on Blacks

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A hero eh? What a lie. No one made him a hero.

He was one of the last conserva-dems from the old south. One of the few who didn't switch parties the way Roy Moore did.

volsrock said:

Did Byrd in the past make racist comments about blacks ?

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He was a Klan leader. And an uber conservative. So yes.

Obama pretty much said--implied--the same thing or at least similar, about ethnic Black-Americans his whole 8 years in the Presidency. Except Obama's moral judgment was aimed at Black-American males and not Black-American women.

Obama was not raised ethnically Black-American though. Even his black family roots are from Kenya and not from the slave holding American Southern states.

The opinions expressed by said Republican--however true or untrue--are a commonly held viewpoint of all the immigrants Democrats are flooding into the USA to replace Black-American labor (and any claim to financial reparations from the 40 acres and a mule never made good upon).




But this constant appeal to emotions is something Democrats like to do.

Look, quite frankly, while there are some very hard working and enterprising young Black-Americans, most Black-Americans relative to Mexicans (in particular) are not very hard working. Black-Americans can get mad at that but that is the truth. But then most white Americans aren't as hard working as Mexicans either. Black Africans are more so so. I've worked with a few in the freezing Wisconsin cold and the cold can bother them so much while doing manual labor that they can pause working and complain constantly to the point they become less effective than Black-American manual labor. But most black Africans go into white collar fields and not manual labor. So, they probably do very well in the white collar fields.

While I've known for years that most East Indians (South Asia) that come to the USA are from the upper-middle-classes and rich in India, I did not know the same is true of almost all the Chinese that come to the USA (I learned that from Tone Talks). I say that because the Chinese are often used as an example to say, "Why can't Black-Americans be like the Chinese who come here with nothing and do well."

First time Obama ran for office he promised to flood the USA with jobs fixing the US infrastructure in government funded projects like FDR. He promised these jobs would flood into the inner-cities. That was my main motivation to vote for him which I did. But It never materialized.




Anyways... I don't care what this guy said in year 2008 on some radio talk show or whatever it was. I don't care about all these emotional appeals.



Fast forward to the 40:20 mark of the first video below and comments from a member of a 2016 research team under the Obama Administration testifying that flooding the USA with illegal immigrants adversely affects Black-American men's incomes and unemployment rates, there ability to get jobs in the non-skilled, low wage sector. Hell, I knew that just from Economics 101 under Keynesian Economics--the economic school of thought worship by Democrats. You'll also see in that video--I think--a Nigerian-American young lady saying her Nigerian parents say Black-Americans are lazy and promiscuous too.




Another video complaining about Obama and black Africans presenting themselves as Black-Americans, hired by whites to do so, but they call Black-Americans "Akata" (wild animals) behind closed doors. My point here is these views are not limited to white Republicans. They are widely held by those the Democratic Party has suckered Black-Americans into selling out the futures of their own children too.

Why the System Needs Luvvie, Obama and Issa Rae to Go Mainstream

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BIG Presents: Luvvie Ajayi on the Tension Between Africans and African Americans

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poweRob said:

I'm absolutely shocked he quit. The normal republican way is to double down on stupidity when it happens. Well.... I'm sure we have some residents here that will double down for him. They will tell us all how he was right and it was Obama that really divided us.

Homeland Security Official Who Blamed Slums On 'Lazy Blacks' Quits

A Homeland Security official in the Trump administration appointed to cultivate unity among community organizations has quit following publication of earlier comments in which he blamed slums on the “laziness, drug use and sexual promiscuity” of African-Americans.

CNN uncovered the statements the Rev. Jamie Johnson expressed while he was host of a radio program in Iowa and as a guest on other conservative shows. He made the comments about blacks and slums in 2008 on “The Right Balance” on Accent Radio Network, CNN reported.​

Oh looky... he's a reverend. Jesus must be proud.

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The questions that jump to mind are why obama made it or why indigenous Blacks do so much worse than newly immigrated ones.

That he used incendiary language is nit really interesting.

joG said:

The questions that jump to mind are why obama made it or why indigenous Blacks do so much worse than newly immigrated ones.

That he used incendiary language is nit really interesting.

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I'm not hating on Obama when I say this. Actually, more power to him and I'm happy for him. Kind of like I don't hate on Trump for having had a rich father. I was not raised rich (like Trump) or even as in as nice and *safe* an environment as Obama. But I was raised in safer, more stable, and more material prosperous conditions than a lot (and I mean a lot) of Black-Americans (or hell, poor people in Africa, Asia, or Latin America).

Albeit, I was reared in a traditional black middle-class neighborhood of Milwaukee. The Sherman Park neighborhood to exact. East of Sherman Blvd. So, the area of the neighborhood which is almost entirely black. Or lets put it this way... I grew right along the stretch where the mini-riots took place. The news presented the area as "poor" but really it has traditionally been regard as middle-class (especially by blacks in more impoverished areas). More impoverished blacks have moved into the area as renters and almost none of Gen X or Millennials own homes in Sherman Park (almost entirely all Boomers if they are black). So, its "poor" in that sense. But the reality is more overlapped and convoluted than the news media presenting it in national news as "a poor neighborhood." So ridiculous I literally chuckle every time I hear that or think of it. :lol:





But here is the thing with Obama: he came from more privilege than most mainland USA whites. Most of us Americans know jack little about Obama so how exactly am I to believe we Americans know so much about Putin? The story of the rise of Putin is far more the so-called "American Dream" than any modern US President. Putin came from a level of Soviet poverty that we Americans would construe as abject poverty. His poverty was more similar to urban poverty in Latin America.

A lot of Black-Americans outside of the Midwest are surprised to know there exists even 2 black people in the whole of the City of Milwaukee. But the damned city is awash in ethnic Black-Americans. For Millennial the city is already majority racial minorities: blacks, Asians, Latinos. Yet, some how, both white and Black-Americans assume and think the area of Hawaii Obama grew up in was a sea of ethnic Black-Americans. There were hardly any black people period where Obama lived. Very few even in the biggest cities of Hawaii.

Obama went to this school below, and the tuition for the 2016 year was over $20,000 annually. He as an adult inherited just shy of $500,000 from his white grandmother (how many mainland white Americans inherit $500,000 from their grandparents or parents? Very few). He was a legacy child into Harvard University because his black African father went to Harvard.

How did Obama make it? How the hell would he not?

My Black-American father (his parents from rural Mississippi as poor sharecroppers) inherited zilch, zero from his parents. My white German-American mother inherited some money (and part of her parents home which she and her siblings sold) from her parents but how much I have no idea. She won't tell me because middle-class Midwestern people don't believe in passing on knowledge to their children, they think rich people never pass on any knowledge to their children. But I can take an educated guess what she inherited was no where near $500,000.

Here is something few Americans know about their own country (so, the likelihood they know anything true about Russia is zilch). To become President of the USA you have to know rich people. Period. And to them you must travel in certain circles. Also, it usually the case you must have attended certain prestigious US universities (like Harvard for example). These are King Makers.

No one is ever going to become a US President if they only attended UW-Milwaukee for example. Maybe UW-Madison because that is an "Ivy League Public University."






https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punahou_School

Founded in 1841, the school has a rich history and a wide variety of programs. The school's most famous alumnus, Barack Obama, graduated in 1979.

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This is the area I come from, so, culturally much different.

FastPace said:

Obama pretty much said--implied--the same thing or at least similar, about ethnic Black-Americans his whole 8 years in the Presidency. Except Obama's moral judgment was aimed at Black-American males and not Black-American women.

Obama was not raised ethnically Black-American though. Even his black family roots are from Kenya and not from the slave holding American Southern states.

The opinions expressed by said Republican--however true or untrue--are a commonly held viewpoint of all the immigrants Democrats are flooding into the USA to replace Black-American labor (and any claim to financial reparations from the 40 acres and a mule never made good upon).




But this constant appeal to emotions is something Democrats like to do.

Look, quite frankly, while there are some very hard working and enterprising young Black-Americans, most Black-Americans relative to Mexicans (in particular) are not very hard working. Black-Americans can get mad at that but that is the truth. But then most white Americans aren't as hard working as Mexicans either. Black Africans are more so so. I've worked with a few in the freezing Wisconsin cold and the cold can bother them so much while doing manual labor that they can pause working and complain constantly to the point they become less effective than Black-American manual labor. But most black Africans go into white collar fields and not manual labor. So, they probably do very well in the white collar fields.

While I've known for years that most East Indians (South Asia) that come to the USA are from the upper-middle-classes and rich in India, I did not know the same is true of almost all the Chinese that come to the USA (I learned that from Tone Talks). I say that because the Chinese are often used as an example to say, "Why can't Black-Americans be like the Chinese who come here with nothing and do well."

First time Obama ran for office he promised to flood the USA with jobs fixing the US infrastructure in government funded projects like FDR. He promised these jobs would flood into the inner-cities. That was my main motivation to vote for him which I did. But It never materialized.




Anyways... I don't care what this guy said in year 2008 on some radio talk show or whatever it was. I don't care about all these emotional appeals.



Fast forward to the 40:20 mark of the first video below and comments from a member of a 2016 research team under the Obama Administration testifying that flooding the USA with illegal immigrants adversely affects Black-American men's incomes and unemployment rates, there ability to get jobs in the non-skilled, low wage sector. Hell, I knew that just from Economics 101 under Keynesian Economics--the economic school of thought worship by Democrats. You'll also see in that video--I think--a Nigerian-American young lady saying her Nigerian parents say Black-Americans are lazy and promiscuous too.




Another video complaining about Obama and black Africans presenting themselves as Black-Americans, hired by whites to do so, but they call Black-Americans "Akata" (wild animals) behind closed doors. My point here is these views are not limited to white Republicans. They are widely held by those the Democratic Party has suckered Black-Americans into selling out the futures of their own children too.

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To help us out, rather than your text, maybe you could provid us with a chart of the relative worth of different sectors of humanity.

Nickyjo said:

To help us out, rather than your text, maybe you could provid us with a chart of the relative worth of different sectors of humanity.

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Help who out?

I'm going to help me. Ergo, I'll be taking my a__ to Asia. I'll be helping me by learning from people like Yvette and the guy on Tone Talks that know more than myself on certain aspects of finance and economics.

The USA is the USA. My Black-American (very dark skinned) friend went to and graduated from a fairly elite Catholic high school with my black cousin. I met him through my cousin. That friend joined the US Army and double volunteered by becoming a US Army Ranger. He served in Desert Storm like I did. Like myself, he came back to a near non-existent job market (at least for Black-Americans). He ended up in basically the same situation as me. As my brother has pointed out to me (my brother has 2 master's degrees) every single one of us black and mulatto guys that we all knew, who went to these Catholic high schools got no where. Some of us eventually did but not until we were in our late 30's or or early 40's, but that was only the beginning of careers our white graduating peers from the same high schools were starting in their 20's. So, by their 40's they were already far ahead.

So, I guess a [dark skinned] black guy that came from a single parent home in the ghetto (not middle-class like I did from the Sherman Park neighborhood), got into (probably through a grant, I don't know and never asked) an elite Catholic high school which he graduated from (mine was not "elite" filled mostly with *rich* kids like the one he and my cousin went to), became an Army Ranger, was merely a loser that "never tried"? It wasn't just him. My cousin had other black friends there which I became friends with. None were rich but one was more upper-middle-class. All (as in every single one) ended up no further than any black person that graduated from the worst public high school in Milwaukee.

My cousin and one of his friend's became home owners (my brother isn't even married with two incomes). But there were periods my cousin was almost psychologically crushed. My brother too. Hell, he was almost psychologically crushed when after his 1st master's he couldn't even get a job shoveling dirt. It was compounded by the fact his white wife who at that time had no work history, had been on welfare, no college education, was getting call backs constantly for jobs.

But I guess it's just FastPace. I'm the only one. My experience is abnormal. :roll:

Yvette Carnell and the Tone Talks get what I'm saying. Hell, they know more than me. I knew it was bad but I had no idea it was as bad as it is until listening to them. By that I mean I would have guessed--thought--ethnic Black-Americans had about 10% of the US wealth, if I had been asked. So, I was shocked to hear from them its only like 2% of US wealth Black-America owns.

According to Yvette in one of her videos, a study done into the black enrollment at Ivy League Universities in the USA discovered that slightly over 40% (this was in the early 2000s or before year 2010 I think) of the blacks students were immigrants (not ethnic Black-Americans).

Yvette's argument (not one I created but the argument she makes does make sense to me) is that these blacks that don't have black ancestry from Southern slaves, but directly to Africa, are masking the failures on-going in Black-America. That actually ethnic Black-America is in far worse shape.




She and the guy from Tone Talks take a much harsher position towards black Africans than I do. For one thing, I don't think the insults have been in a on-way direction as Yvette kind of depicts it. I grew up hearing little black kids on the playground taunting darker black kids as "African Booty Scratchers." While these were children and not adults tossing disparaging references to "Africa," it has not been uncommon for Black-American liberals and conservatives to dismiss Africa as nothing. You don't hear Italian-Americans doing that about Italy. Actually, white America and Black-Americans trip over themselves to yap about how "we" need to protect "Europe." Europe is never dismissed as nothing.

That said... I think Yvette (she is smart as hell too--and "down to earth") and the guy from Tone Talk make some valid points. I also think Black-Americans could learn some good qualities from black Africans.

As for the Latinos--I like Latinos and I would not care if the USA became 99% Latino. But I also like knowing reality.

Nickyjo said:

To help us out, rather than your text, maybe you could provid us with a chart of the relative worth of different sectors of humanity.

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Here is a Black-American economics professor being interviewed on research he carried out. You can search down his college email and write him your questions or condescending statements. It would show more courage too.

For Black Americans Hard Work & College Don’t Close the Racial Wealth Gap - Prof. Sandy Darity

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Antonio Moore interviews one of the leading structural economists in the nation, Prof. William A. Darity of Duke University discussing Darity’s recent studies on the racial wealth gap.

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Yvette on immigration from Africa and the term "Akata." About the 9:55 mark of the video a young lady that has Nigerian parents explains in a video that her parents think ethnic Black-Americans are lazy and have lots of kids out of wedlock. She says they call Black-Americans "Akata" (wild animals) too.

Look... unlike Yvette I "get" why black Africans coming to the USA think of ethnic Black-Americans as "Akata." They see plenty (not a few) wild a__ Black-Americans from the "hood" disrespecting people, harming people, killing others, and just "wild" period.

(What Yvette might not "get" though, is that black Africans frequently look down on ethnic Black-Americans for fighting among st, killing each other, in a multi-racial, multiethnic country of competition. In other words they view ethnic Black-Americans like disciplined Army Ranger might view a wild base of Navy sailors that let all other groups come in and take, trick, do whatever, but the sailors turn around and fight one another. I pick up this impression from certain remarks some black Africans have made to me that seems to me to hint to that is sort of a point they were trying to make to me about Black-Americans.)

volsrock said:

Guess what...The left made Byrd a hero despite his 'PAST' remarks on Blacks

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Guess what, Byrd changed his life drastically and became a much better person...but he gets constantly dredged up by people who have no debate skills as a cheap distraction ploy.

GhostlyJoe said:

I'm not a fan of people losing their jobs for things they said years before that has nothing to do their efficacy or job responsibilities.

I'm not fan of outrage radio, and I think his 2008 comments are vile, but does the pastor still feel this way? Was he good at his job? Does context matter at all? If all of us had to reveal our worst past utterances or behaviors, would we all starve for lack of employment?

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He made similar comments months before Trump appointed him. He is a racist, one of many in the Trump administration. He should NEVER have been appointed in the first place.

My point was that you seemed in you post to be stereotyping people based on race. Maybe I misunderstood you.

Btw, as an Italian-American I can say that some of my relatives did put down Italy, or at least the Italy they left. They also exaggerate, as humans do, how great it is/was. And within Italy, there is the notion that southern Italy and southen Italians are terrible. "South of the Po, starts Africa," goes the prejudice.

No need. Same things said about the Irish, Italians, Jews, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Catholics in N. Ireland by Protestants... In my Italian neighborhood, people complained about "mustache Pete's" who were "just off the boat." Back in the day, Germans immigrants were considered to be crime prone. I bet the ancient Greeks complained about the Romans ruining the neighborhood. And don't get the Romans started about the Carthaginians. And of course nowadays Nigerian immigrants might complain about blacks in the US when looking at poor neighborhoods. I bet blacks in the US complain that Nigerians are internet scammers.

This is Reverend Jamie Johnson. This man is actually a reverend. And this is why I say that the Christian Right no longer has any real Christianity.

This guy was spouting this nonsense on conservative talk radio where people had no problem with the racist stuff he said. How many conservatives think like him.

So, let's go over just how stupid his claims are:

1. Jewish immigrants "in the early part of the 1800’s immediately rolled up their sleeves"

Hmm...what were the "lazy" Black people doing in the early 1800's? Oh yeah, picking cotton for free under slavery. So lazy of them.

2. He says these Jewish immigrants, "applied themselves to education and other means of improvement and other means of climbing the, I hate this phrase, but the social ladder"

Hmm...why didn't these "lazy" Black people do the same? Oh yeah, during slavery weren't allowed to learn to read.

Anti-literacy laws were in force in many slave states before and during the American Civil War regarding slaves, freedmen, and in some cases all people of color.

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It's not until the 1960's Civil Rights Act that schools began desegregating. And that was a huge fight that tore the country apart. The South didn't want to desegregate. Sadly, schools are still segregated today because of economics.

3. He says Jewish people are successful "Because they work."

Hmm...when exactly was a Black man allowed to get a basic job like firefighter or policeman? Probably the 1970's some Black men were able to get basic jobs. Other immigrants were accumulating wealth from the 1800's and here we have Blacks finally able to get basic jobs and attend schools in the 1970's.

Think about this, until Jackie Robinson in 1947 Black men weren't even allowed to play professional baseball. Yes, Baseball! Forget any other decent job.

Imagine how damaging it is if for GENERATIONS men in a community are prevented from getting basic jobs. You need a job to support a family and raise children and to pass on wealth to your children.

How is it rational to compare the success of Jewish immigrants to Black in America? So, after all the brutal horrors that Blacks have faced in America, conservatives like Rev. Jamie Johnson then blame Blacks for the consequences of the injustices tha were imposed upon them.