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Uh oh... yet another new Roy Moore accuser

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At least Moore didn't diddle this one while she was in high school. Just while he was married. Looks like he's improving.

New Roy Moore accuser: 'He didn't pinch it; he grabbed it'

A Gadsden woman says Roy Moore groped her while she was in his law office on legal business with her mother in 1991. Moore was married at that time.

In the past week, Moore has been accused by five other women of a range of behaviors that include sexual misconduct with a woman when she was 14, and sexual assault of another when she was 16. This is the first public accusation of physical contact that happened after Moore was married.

"He kept commenting on my looks, telling me how pretty I was, how nice I looked," recalled Johnson. "He was saying that my eyes were beautiful."

It made her uncomfortable. "I was thinking, can we hurry up and get out of here?"

Johnson was 28 years old, in a difficult marriage headed toward divorce, and unemployed.

Once the papers were signed, she and her mother got up to leave. After her mother walked through the door first, she said, Moore came up behind her.

It was at that point, she recalled, he grabbed her buttocks.

"He didn't pinch it; he grabbed it," said Johnson. She was so surprised she didn't say anything. She didn't tell her mother.

She said she told her sister years later how Moore had made her feel uncomfortable during that meeting. Her sister told AL.com she remembers the conversation.

"I'm not perfect," she said. "I have things in my background and I know (the public) will jump on anything, but (what happened with Moore) is still the truth, and the truth will stand when the world won't."​

You bet they will. Let the discrediting begin trumpettes.[/INDENT]
 
poweRob said:
At least Moore didn't diddle this one while she was in high school. Just while he was married. Looks like he's improving.

New Roy Moore accuser: 'He didn't pinch it; he grabbed it'

A Gadsden woman says Roy Moore groped her while she was in his law office on legal business with her mother in 1991. Moore was married at that time.

In the past week, Moore has been accused by five other women of a range of behaviors that include sexual misconduct with a woman when she was 14, and sexual assault of another when she was 16. This is the first public accusation of physical contact that happened after Moore was married.

"He kept commenting on my looks, telling me how pretty I was, how nice I looked," recalled Johnson. "He was saying that my eyes were beautiful."

It made her uncomfortable. "I was thinking, can we hurry up and get out of here?"

Johnson was 28 years old, in a difficult marriage headed toward divorce, and unemployed.

Once the papers were signed, she and her mother got up to leave. After her mother walked through the door first, she said, Moore came up behind her.

It was at that point, she recalled, he grabbed her buttocks.

"He didn't pinch it; he grabbed it," said Johnson. She was so surprised she didn't say anything. She didn't tell her mother.

She said she told her sister years later how Moore had made her feel uncomfortable during that meeting. Her sister told AL.com she remembers the conversation.

"I'm not perfect," she said. "I have things in my background and I know (the public) will jump on anything, but (what happened with Moore) is still the truth, and the truth will stand when the world won't."​

You bet they will. Let the discrediting begin trumpettes.[/INDENT]
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Not interested. Sick of it. Talk to the hand, the face ain’t listenin’.
 
MaggieD said:
Not interested. Sick of it. Talk to the hand, the face ain’t listenin’.
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Sick of hearing about Scumbag Moore's many incidents? Oh wait.....y'all have decided it's all a big conspiracy against him by "the liberals"
 
poweRob said:
At least Moore didn't diddle this one while she was in high school. Just while he was married. Looks like he's improving.

A Gadsden woman says Roy Moore groped her while she was in his law office on legal business with her mother in 1991. Moore was married at that time.
"He didn't pinch it; he grabbed it," said Johnson. She was so surprised she didn't say anything. She didn't tell her mother.

She said she told her sister years later how Moore had made her feel uncomfortable during that meeting. Her sister told AL.com she remembers the conversation.

"I'm not perfect," she said. "I have things in my background and I know (the public) will jump on anything, but (what happened with Moore) is still the truth, and the truth will stand when the world won't."[/INDENT]

You bet they will. Let the discrediting begin trumpettes.[/INDENT]
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The discrediting began with the first accusation against the candidate...the attempt to discredit him and prevent his election.

I find it funny that people who support these allegations, designed to attack the character of the accused, would find it "weird" and "inappropriate" for the accused to act to discredit their allegations.

In fact, that is one duty of the defense team in a criminal trial, discredit the testimony of witnesses for the prosecution...(just as the Prosecution tries with defense witnesses).

So don't cry us a river when the shoe is on the other foot and information comes out which shows these "witness" allegations may have other motives than "clearing the air and bringing down an evil person." :coffeepap:
 
Captain Adverse said:
The discrediting began with the first accusation against the candidate...the attempt to discredit him and prevent his election.

I find it funny that people who support these allegations, designed to attack the character of the accused, would find it "weird" and "inappropriate" for the accused to act to discredit their allegations.

In fact, that is one duty of the defense team in a criminal trial, discredit the testimony of witnesses for the prosecution...(just as the Prosecution tries with defense witnesses).

So don't cry us a river when the shoe is on the other foot and information comes out which shows these allegations may have other motives than "clearing the air and bringing down an evil person." :coffeepap:
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Right. Moore is the victim of having diddled teens and then groped women when he was married. Poor Moore. How dare this woman throw her ass into his hand like that.
 
poweRob said:
Right. Moore is the victim of having diddled teens and then groped women when he was married. Poor Moore.
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No! :doh

Always trying to reword the argument to create a straw man rabbit hole.

The argument is that the accused should be presumed innocent while the accusers have the burden of showing their allegations are true.

If they can prove their truth, then the accused faces the consequences...but not until then.
 
Captain Adverse said:
No! :doh

Always trying to reword the argument to make a straw man argument.

The argument is that the accused should be presumed innocent while the accusers have the burden of showing their allegations are true.

If they can prove their truth, then the accused faces the consequences...but not until then.
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LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!

Oh how soon we forget. Besides, He is presumed innocent... in a court of law. He's not facing any legal consequences yet. This is the public domain. So I guess you want to do away with the first amendment now?
 
poweRob said:
LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!

Oh how soon we forget. Besides, He is presumed innocent... in a court of law. He's not facing any legal consequences yet. This is the public domain. So I guess you want to do away with the first amendment now?
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They are attacking his character, via a smear campaign in order to prevent him from being elected...So it is perfectly fitting that they be subject to an examination of THEIR character.

Just as publicly and severely as they have done. That's the OTHER side of "Free Expression."

It's really that simple.
 
Captain Adverse said:
They are attacking his character, via a smear campaign in order to prevent him from being elected...So it is perfectly fitting that they be subject to an examination of THEIR character.

Just as publicly and severely as they have done. It's really that simple.
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Hence , the whole 'attack the victim' technique the unethical lawyers use to 'protect' their guilty clients.
 
Captain Adverse said:
They are attacking his character, via a smear campaign in order to prevent him from being elected...So it is perfectly fitting that they be subject to an examination of THEIR character. It's really that simple.
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I see. So you seem to think that it's best to let the accusations stand and attack the accuser rather than debunk the actual accusation. Defame the accuser so badly that the accusation whether true or not, just gets dismissed out of hand.

Well of course you think that. And all the Moore defenders do as well. At least you are honest about it.

I'll let "Moderate Right" make your point more succinct...

Moderate Right said:
The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office.
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poweRob said:
I see. So you seem to think that it's best to let the accusations stand and attack the accuser rather than debunk the actual accusation. Defame the accuser so badly that the accusation whether true or not, just gets dismissed out of hand.

Well of course you think that. And all the Moore defenders do as well. At least you are honest about it.
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Amazing. :roll:

On the one hand, your side of the argument chooses to buy into allegations which attack the character of someone as factual, in order to move your agendas.

It is perfectly fair and just (in that worldview) to assume accusations equate to truth. Anything goes as long as it is in line with your objectives.

However, when those "truth-speakers" are challenged in any way, then your side calls it "attacks against the accuser" and decry the unfairness of it all! Typical. :doh

These people have come forward with allegations that cannot be proven; and the only evidence so far is clearly suspect as this "yearbook note" appears to be.

So get off the emotional soapbox and face facts. People pre-disposed against the person will accept the allegations as truth, while those who aren't...will wait to see what facts may show the truth.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Amazing. :roll:

On the one hand, your side of the argument chooses to buy into allegations which attack the character of someone as factual, in order to move your agendas.

It is perfectly fair and just (in that worldview) to assume accusations equate to truth. Anything goes as long as it is in line with your objectives.

However, when those "truth-speakers" are challenged in any way, then your side calls it "attacks against the accuser" and decry the unfairness of it all! Typical. :roll:

These people have come forward with allegations that cannot be proven; and the only evidence so far is clearly suspect as this "yearbook note" appears to be.

So get off the emotional soapbox and face facts. People pre-disposed against the person will accept the allegations as truth, while those who aren't...will wait to see facts show the truth.
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I'm looking at the accusations. You and the moore defenders are looking past the accusations because you cant debunk them... so you shoot the messenger. That is your "agenda".

I'm just waiting for the republican black flag accuser to come forward so that they can easily discredit her and then use that as a way to say all of them are lying. I really think that is how desperate you guys are in this.
 
poweRob said:
I'm looking at the accusations. You and the moore defenders are looking past the accusations because you cant debunk them... so you shoot the messenger. That is your "agenda".
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For the last time...ALLEGATIONS NEED TO BE PROVEN BY THE ACCUSER, NOT "DISPROVED" BY THE ACCUSED!

Clear? :coffeepap:
 
Captain Adverse said:
For the last time...ALLEGATIONS NEED TO BE PROVEN BY THE ACCUSER, NOT "DISPROVED" BY THE ACCUSED!

Clear? :coffeepap:
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Allegations have been backed up by scores of women now. This isn't a judicial process so playing armchair judge isn't doing you any favors.

Clear?

oh yeah and ....


LOCK HER UP!
LOCK HER UP!
LOCK HER UP!

Where were you then with this phony judicial high road?
 
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poweRob said:
At least Moore didn't diddle this one while she was in high school. Just while he was married. Looks like he's improving.

New Roy Moore accuser: 'He didn't pinch it; he grabbed it'

A Gadsden woman says Roy Moore groped her while she was in his law office on legal business with her mother in 1991. Moore was married at that time.

In the past week, Moore has been accused by five other women of a range of behaviors that include sexual misconduct with a woman when she was 14, and sexual assault of another when she was 16. This is the first public accusation of physical contact that happened after Moore was married.

"He kept commenting on my looks, telling me how pretty I was, how nice I looked," recalled Johnson. "He was saying that my eyes were beautiful."

It made her uncomfortable. "I was thinking, can we hurry up and get out of here?"

Johnson was 28 years old, in a difficult marriage headed toward divorce, and unemployed.

Once the papers were signed, she and her mother got up to leave. After her mother walked through the door first, she said, Moore came up behind her.

It was at that point, she recalled, he grabbed her buttocks.

"He didn't pinch it; he grabbed it," said Johnson. She was so surprised she didn't say anything. She didn't tell her mother.

She said she told her sister years later how Moore had made her feel uncomfortable during that meeting. Her sister told AL.com she remembers the conversation.

"I'm not perfect," she said. "I have things in my background and I know (the public) will jump on anything, but (what happened with Moore) is still the truth, and the truth will stand when the world won't."​

You bet they will. Let the discrediting begin trumpettes.[/INDENT]
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Gosh... that Judge sure seems quite the gigolo, and as we in the locker-room say: Well done with all the conquests!

I bet Trump can't help but be impressed, so much so I fear Trump may become jealous, and I wouldn't be surprised if Trump delivers a well-earned smack-down of the Good Judge Roy Moore soon, reasserts his dominance in the area.

Remember, you heard it from me first.

MAGA!
 
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BitterPill said:
Gosh... that Judge sure seems quite the gigolo, and as we in the locker-room say: Well done with all the conquests!

I bet Trump can't help but be impressed, so I fear Trump may become jealous, and I wouldn't be surprised if Trump delivers a well-earned smack-down of the Good Judge Roy Moore soon.

Remember, you heard it from me first.

MAGA!
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Why would trump be jealous of Moore? It would be the other way around being that Trump owned the Miss Teen USA pageant and would walk in on them in various stages of undress.
 
Right on schedule.

I predicted this somewhere around these Parts....

That if the last one did not do the job then surely there is another, the job needs to get done.
 
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Tigerace117 said:
Sick of hearing about Scumbag Moore's many incidents? Oh wait.....y'all have decided it's all a big conspiracy against him by "the liberals"
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You'd think people would be sick of hearing about how many little girls Moore molested. But nooooo, they are pissed because people are talking about it.
 
Superfly said:
Then why are you in this post, Maggie?
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Now why do you think? Because I wanted to express that erudite opinion. Why else? ;)

No! Wait! I’ve never used the old talk to the hand saw on DP. Because, I mean, technically, of course, nobody’s talking. And, even if they were? There’s nobody listening either.

No! Wait! Real answer: I wanted to be a smart ass. ;)
 
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poweRob said:
Why would trump be jealous of Moore? It would be the other way around being that Trump owned the Miss Teen USA pageant and would walk in on them in various stages of undress.
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You libs are so naive. Exactly why would Trump be jealous of a man, a new darling of the media, who grabs ***** with evident abandon?

Just think about it while you ponder Trump catching women flashing his August self when he enters their dressing area.
 
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Tigerace117 said:
Sick of hearing about Scumbag Moore's many incidents? Oh wait.....y'all have decided it's all a big conspiracy against him by "the liberals"
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Not really, Tiger. I haven’t even read the accusations. I’m just sick of all of them. It’s turned into a who did what to whose cat kinda thing for me.
 
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