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Hell's Freezing Over?

MaggieD said:
I hope we never move on from the Clintons. His behavior before he became president puts Trump’s womanizing before he was elected into a very different perspective than is painted today. His behavior in the Oval Office with a young subordinate was beyond hideous. His wife’s behavior was disgusting throughout. He lied under oath. He lied in public. She lied in public. Did everything in her power to control “the bimbo eruptions,” and stood by that asshole through it all. Only the blue dress brought him down.

Bill Clinton was the quintessential pig. His wife? The quintessential pig enabler. I hope we never forget...
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He cheated on his wife and has a history of it. To be honest, so did pretty much the whole Republican leadership that grandstanded on the issue. Based on polling, probably half the voters that held it against him cheated on a spouse as well.

The sexual harassment and rape are things that are disturbing...but consensual sex with an adult woman? Get over it. You will have to clean out your party and hold them to the same standard you hold Clinton before otherwise you are guys are just hypocrites.
 
LowDown said:
As someone in the White House recently said, they'd love to stop talking about Clinton, but she won't go away. She won't go away so that makes Bill relevant.
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where should she go? Jump into a black hole? The only reason she's in the news is because of the trainwreck that is the Trump administration and a Republican Congress than can't get anything done. All conservatives know how to do is sit on the sideline and criticize so they treat Hillary as the sitting president and continue to run against her.
 
iliveonramen said:
He cheated on his wife and has a history of it. To be honest, so did pretty much the whole Republican leadership that grandstanded on the issue. Based on polling, probably half the voters that held it against him cheated on a spouse as well.

The sexual harassment and rape are things that are disturbing...but consensual sex with an adult woman? Get over it. You will have to clean out your party and hold them to the same standard you hold Clinton before otherwise you are guys are just hypocrites.
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When it is proven that Trump has had numerous blow jobs in the Oval Office while talking with heads of state, and used his power to influence a very young subordinate so far down the line as to be the girl who washes his car, THEN I’ll compare the two. Until then? Former President Clinton takes the cake.
 
MaggieD said:
When it is proven that Trump has had numerous blow jobs in the Oval Office while talking with heads of state, and used his power to influence a very young subordinate so far down the line as to be the girl who washes his car, THEN I’ll compare the two. Until then? Former President Clinton takes the cake.
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A) Guys always use their influence to get women and there's a lot of times when it's a pretty younger girl and a more established older guy. You think 70 year old Trump gets super models because gorgeous women like old overweight guys?
B)Clinton had consensual sex. They consensual sex he had was in bad taste but it's nothing like any sort of non-consensual sex. One is something that he should embarrassed of...the other is a crime and a it's a crime for a reason.

To be honest, I wasn't even talking about Trump but was thinking of the conservative support for Moore and other conservatives that have done far worse than cheat on their wives, but as I mentioned in the past...I don't care what Trump did to women where consent took place, it's where he allegedly did things without consent.
 
iliveonramen said:
A) Guys always use their influence to get women and there's a lot of times when it's a pretty younger girl and a more established older guy. You think 70 year old Trump gets super models because gorgeous women like old overweight guys?
B)Clinton had consensual sex. They consensual sex he had was in bad taste but it's nothing like any sort of non-consensual sex. One is something that he should embarrassed of...the other is a crime and a it's a crime for a reason.

To be honest, I wasn't even talking about Trump but was thinking of the conservative support for Moore and other conservatives that have done far worse than cheat on their wives, but as I mentioned in the past...I don't care what Trump did to women where consent took place, it's where he allegedly did things without consent.
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I love your use of the word “alleged.” Good on you.
 
MaggieD said:
First a serious comment or two about your post, as it should be.

Do you think a accusations should be taken at face value WITHOUT questioning? Do you think an accuser should automatically be believed without a healthy dose of skepticism? Especially those who come with lawyer in tow? And especially when the timing is suspicious? Do you get your news from the opinions of others? Or from the cold, hard facts?

On a lighter note, yours is the first post I read this morning. LOLd at your first line. Have NO idea why, but it tickled my funny bone. And last, “whataboutism.” Perfect! We do it here all the time. You most likely do as well. Not sure it’s wrong as examples in history can certainly be used to show unfair partisan treatment and illustrate a point. But I like your word which I’ve never heard before. Now that you have given it a critical name, though, you can be sure, Mr. Person, that I’ll be watching you. ;) ;)

Thanks for the early morning laugh. Peace.
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You'll be watching me? Does this mean you'll at least respond to the specific points I raise in a post? Even here, you're picking at my post without actually addressing the meat of what I said to the other guy.

Nevermind that I already addressed your questions in another response to one of the many posts you've put up defending your position that all of Moore's accusers should be ignored. Turning around and rhetorically accusing me of automatically believing them is inaccurate, is not a response to that, and is not a response to what I was saying to the other guy in this thread.

According to his own article, the "liberal media" treated Broaddrick differently because there were tons of reasons specific to Broaddrick for questioning her claim that are not here in this case. It really is that simple.
 
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