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Feminists saved the 42nd president... in the 1990s. They were on the wrong side of history

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Feminists saved the 42nd president of the United States in the 1990s. They were on the wrong side of history; is it finally time to make things right?

(Bill Clinton’s) was a pattern of behavior; it included an alleged violent assault; the women involved had far more credible evidence than many of the most notorious accusations that have come to light in the past five weeks. But Clinton was not left to the swift and pitiless justice that today’s accused men have experienced. Rather, he was rescued by a surprising force: machine feminism. The movement had by then ossified into a partisan operation and it was willing—eager—to let this friend of the sisterhood enjoy a little droit de seigneur.

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notorious 1998 New York Times op-ed by Gloria Steinem must surely stand as one of the most regretted public actions of her life. It slut-shamed, victim-blamed, and age-shamed; it urged compassion for and gratitude to the man the women accused... it characterized contemporary feminism as a weaponized auxiliary of the Democratic Party.

Called “Feminists and the Clinton Question,” it was written in March of 1998, when Paula Jones’s harassment claim was working its way through court...And then she wrote the fatal sentences that invalidated the new understanding of workplace sexual harassment as a moral and legal wrong:

https://www.theatlantic.com/enterta...ckoning-with-bill-clintons-sex-crimes/545729/

Well... I think the “machine feminists” certainly had their role, and they rightly deserved to be known as disgusting shills for the Left, but the entire Democrat Party, and especially Democrats in that esteemed chamber called The Senate, were on the wrong side of history. They had a criminal, a rapist, a perjurer before them, and they let him skate, and then lead their party for decades.

They actually elevated the diseased vomit and his diseased vomit shoveler Hillary to the status of party royalty... for decades.

They’re still defended... as twice the diseased vomit shoveler Hillary was celebrated by their party as a potential heir apparent, when she and her husband had proven themselves to be vile and criminal.

No... it wasn’t just feminists that dropped the ball, it was virtually the entire Democrat Party.

Now... their chickens are coming home to roost.
 
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This thread is gonna be perfect for Moore's "innocent until proven guilty" crowd.
 
Well... I think the “machine feminists” certainly had their role, and they rightly deserved to be known as disgusting shills for the Left, but the entire Democrat Party, and especially Democrats in that esteemed chamber called The Senate, were on the wrong side of history. They had a criminal, a rapist, a perjurer before them, and they let him skate, and then lead their party for decades.

They actually elevated the diseased vomit and his diseased vomit shoveler Hillary to the status of party royalty... for decades.

They’re still defended... as twice the diseased vomit shoveler Hillary was celebrated by their party as heir apparent.

No... it wasn’t just feminists that dropped the ball, it was virtually the entire Democrat Party.

Now... their chickens are coming home to roost.

Huh. "Democrat Party"?

Never heard of it.
 
Huh. "Democrat Party"?

Never heard of it.

Your best response no doubt.

Can just picture the standard line running through your report cards at school:

Must try harder.
 
This thread is gonna be perfect for Moore's "innocent until proven guilty" crowd.

It’s perfect for how the Socialists of America Partei (SAPs) had run cover for a sexual predator, and then elevated him and his vile wife to royalty status for decades.

The party was on the wrong side of history and there are consequences for that. Yet expedience is not the only reason to make this public accounting. If it is possible for politics and moral behavior to coexist, then this grave wrong needs to be acknowledged.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/redi...koning-with-bill-clintons-sex-crimes/545729//

My question is... what consequences?

The Socialists of America Partei (SAPs) have not even come to terms with the fact they’ve elevated a sexual predator and his vile wife to party royalty. Hell... Hillary was just voted Socialist Woman of the Year
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/us/politics/hillary-clinton-award-democrats.html

The SAPs have a long way to go, but their Goebbels Inspired Media Propagandists (GIMPs) will do their best to ignore their history... just as they do with the KKK and their awful history when it comes to blacks and rights, Occupy Wallstreet, Black Lives Matter, etc.

Fact is, the SAPs and GIMPs will likely collude to claim Trump is to blame for the deviant behavior of the Leftists.

It’s what they do... delude and poison the minds of the SAP followers... just as Steinem, the GIMPs and SAPs did when it came to the issue of a perjurer and sexual predator called Bill Clinton... and continued to do for almost three decades.

This bit from The Atlantic will be little discussed, and buried by the GIMPs and SAPs, and if discussed... vilified for not towing the party line.

One thing does seem certain though... and it’s nice The Clinton Crime Family is seeing it unwind... their chapter in history is being forged. Clinton will be an anti-Truman. His, and his wife’s place in history will be that of a turd. What a waste...
 
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This thread is gonna be perfect for Moore's "innocent until proven guilty" crowd.

Really?

Back in the day I argued Clinton was "innocent until proven guilty."

Now I do believe he perjured himself in regards to the Monica Lewinski issue, but I also argued that this had nothing to do with the original impeachment investigation albeit it did affect his general credibility.

The three women who alleged sexual misconduct (only Juanita Broderick alleged rape) never went to court, either criminal or civil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Until proven otherwise, I still presume innocence. :shrug:
 
Your best response no doubt.

Can just picture the standard line running through your report cards at school:

Must try harder.

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Knock it off, zimmer.
 
My... the life-long Clinton defenders and supporters have really come out strong in this thread.

I believe their silence reveals as much as the decades of eating Clinton feces and desecrating to bare metal, a morally and intellectually bankrupt Democrat Party.
 
Why is it that every time someone on the right misbehaves, I need to see the name "Clinton" fifty times a day?
 
Why is it that every time someone on the right misbehaves, I need to see the name "Clinton" fifty times a day?

Three reasons: 1) It's all they have, 2) They have to do SOMETHING to distract from the degenerates of their own party, and 3) They refuse to even talk about or address the issues of the degenerates of their own party.
 
Why is it that every time someone on the right misbehaves, I need to see the name "Clinton" fifty times a day?

There’s two of them and they have written the book on modern criminality.

Three reasons: 1) It's all they have, 2) They have to do SOMETHING to distract from the degenerates of their own party, and 3) They refuse to even talk about or address the issues of the degenerates of their own party.

1) There are many Socialists of America Partei (SAP) criminals and scum. Weiner just went to the slammer. Menendez is on trial. Johnny Edwards. Charles Rangel. Tony Podesta. John Podesta. Just a few for starters.

2) ROTFLOL... the Goebbels Inspired Media Propagandists (GIMPs), the propaganda arm of the SAPs, flood the airways, internet and rags with their anti Republican hits and propaganda. Distract from those attempts? What the SAPs have done is harm their credibility with their behavior... the GIMPs, like the SAPs, have become unbelievable.

We jettison our problems. The SAPs, GIMPs, and FemiNazi’s are aggressive defenders of their cheats and perverts... sometimes the same person, as in Felonious Bill’s case.

3) We refuse to talk about or address our problems? Just another wonderful example of you accusing others of your and your party’s problem. The Clintons are a 30-year case of political HIV you tried to cover for, as he and she humped your party. You folks liked it. No... you LOVED it.

We, on the other hand, not only discuss the problem, we eradicate them.

I understand that 30-years of “taking it” from The Clinton Crime family has taken its toll. YOU folks are the jackals that aggressively defended, and then elevated the scum to party Royalty. That was your party’s very own unforced error... as in, nobody forced you to do it... but lacking a moral compass... you did!

In short: You had the chance to jettison The Clintons... you did not.

Now you complain about the opposition when your one full blown case of political HIV/AIDs causes the entire party to become fully blown cases of political HIV/AIDS too!!!

Man up!

Do not deflect.

Face YOUR political HIV/AIDs problems head-on for once in your life.

The Clintons are what happens... when you have no moral compass.
 
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There’s two of them and they have written the book on modern criminality.



1) There are many Socialists of America Partei (SAP) criminals and scum. Weiner just went to the slammer. Menendez is on trial. Johnny Edwards. Charles Rangel. Tony Podesta. John Podesta. Just a few for starters.

2) ROTFLOL... the Goebbels Inspired Media Propagandists (GIMPs), the propaganda arm of the SAPs, flood the airways, internet and rags with their anti Republican hits and propaganda. Distract from those attempts? What the SAPs have done is harm their credibility with their behavior... the GIMPs, like the SAPs, have become unbelievable.

We jettison our problems. The SAPs, GIMPs, and FemiNazi’s are aggressive defenders of their cheats and perverts... sometimes the same person, as in Felonious Bill’s case.

3) We refuse to talk about or address our problems? Just another wonderful example of you accusing others of your and your party’s problem. The Clintons are a 30-year case of political HIV you tried to cover for, as he and she humped your party. You folks liked it. No... you LOVED it.

We, on the other hand, not only discuss the problem, we eradicate them.

I understand that 30-years of “taking it” from The Clinton Crime family has taken its toll. YOU folks are the jackals that aggressively defended, and then elevated the scum to party Royalty. That was your party’s very own unforced error... as in, nobody forced you to do it... but lacking a moral compass... you did!

In short: You had the chance to jettison The Clintons... you did not.

Now you complain about the opposition when your one full blown case of political HIV/AIDs causes the entire party to become fully blown cases of political HIV/AIDS too!!!

Man up!

Do not deflect.

Face YOUR political HIV/AIDs problems head-on for once in your life.

The Clintons are what happens... when you have no moral compass.

This post is an outstanding example of exactly what I said and precisely what is wrong with conservatives. Notice, zimmer. Not ONCE did you address any of the issues or any of the scum in your own party. Not once. If I had bet someone $1 million dollars that you would not have, I'd be $1 million dollars richer. I KNEW your post would look exactly like it did. Why? 1) Because it's all you have; 2) You have to discuss SOMETHING to distract from the degenerates of your own ideology and ; 3) You refuse to even talk about or address the issues of the degenerates of their own party. Clean your own house zimmer. You refuse to do it, but start doing it before you start throwing stones.
 
What this shows, at its base level, is that there are criminal perverts in every ideology and in every walk of life. Generally, however, on the right where we have high moral standards we strive for but sometimes fail to achieve, we punish the transgressor for the transgression and hope and expect better from them going forward. On the left, however, there are many that believe failed morals are a "personal" matter that are not to affect the public persona or work of those who've morally failed. It is why the likes of Bill Clinton and remarkably, Anthony Weiner, to name just two, continued to have or had political support among Democrats once their moral perversion was revealed.

On the right, there have been many who failed morally and suffered politically for that failure. As an example, during the Clinton impeachment, the Speaker of the House and the Minority Leader in the Senate were both drummed out of leadership and office due to the hypocrisy of their own personal lives in relation to the problems of Bill Clinton.

This thread, however, is about the hypocrisy of the feminist left in America during the Clinton years and for that they should be condemned by all, regardless of ideology, and without equivocation.
 
This thread is gonna be perfect for Moore's "innocent until proven guilty" crowd.

As Ivanka Trump said, there is a special place in Hell for those who prey on children.

It would be nice to have some contemporary reports to support the specific claims against Moore. It seems like this is the new normal. IF Moore is not guilty of these heinous accusations, where will he go to get his reputation back?

Is this going to be the normal thing now?

Will every election include the mass recovery of amnesiacs who suddenly remember the same events about the same candidate and come forward on the same day?

What has happened to the women who accused Clinton? Trump?
 
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Really?

Back in the day I argued Clinton was "innocent until proven guilty."

Now I do believe he perjured himself in regards to the Monica Lewinski issue, but I also argued that this had nothing to do with the original impeachment investigation albeit it did affect his general credibility.

The three women who alleged sexual misconduct (only Juanita Broderick alleged rape) never went to court, either criminal or civil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Until proven otherwise, I still presume innocence. :shrug:

Innocent until proven guilty is one thing.

However, it was funny how the Clinton Bimbo Attacking Machine screeched to a halt when the existence of the blue dress stain was publicised.

It's too bad the other victims used dry cleaners with regularity.

The Blue Dress is contemporary evidence.
 
Why is it that every time someone on the right misbehaves, I need to see the name "Clinton" fifty times a day?

Good point.

Did Gloria Allred present any Clinton Accusers?
 
Three reasons: 1) It's all they have, 2) They have to do SOMETHING to distract from the degenerates of their own party, and 3) They refuse to even talk about or address the issues of the degenerates of their own party.

Up until recently, we got rid of them, and then they weren't an issue anymore.

Not so much for Ted Kennedy, Chris Dodd, Bill Clinton, and others.

Republicans point to Clinton to argue that Democrats have no moral ground to stand on when it comes to insisting the GOP banish men for sexual abuses. It's an unfortunate argument in that it is A) accurate and B) irrelevant. You don't get rid of abusers because it's politically advantageous, you do it because it's the right thing to do.
 
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