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Former Asst. FBI Director: Clinton Crimes 20 Times Bigger than Watergate

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[FONT=&quot]And then a few years down the road, "we sell 20 percent of our uranium," Kalstrom added, referencing the corrupt Uranium One deal that routed millions of Russian dollars to the Clinton Foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on the federal government’s Committee on Foreign Investment.

Kallstrom pointed out that just "the unmaskings of names alone is a major scandal." Requests to identify Americans whose names surfaced in foreign intelligence reporting -- known as unmasking -- was done at a freakishly rapid rate in the final months of the Obama administration.

"We got all these major crime things bubbling – all of which were 20 times bigger than Watergate! And nothing seems to be happening… the attorney general is in a coma!" he said.

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We have a 2-tier justice system that will only become whole, when the blind lady of justice holding the scale puts Hillary Clinton behind bars for her multitude of crimes.

That is the result for far lesser crimes... Scooter Libby’s failing memory comes quickly to mind... and if failing memory can get you put in jail, Hillary would be serving nine life sentences.
 
Why stop at 20? Why not claim Clinton's imaginary crimes are a million gazillion times worse than Watergate and whatever is being currently prosecuted in the Trump administration? I really thought your obsession with Hillary would end with her political career, and on that I was completely wrong.

It's going to be fun watching you get more and more vocal about Clinton as the investigation of Trump proceeds. Just know that neither Mueller nor America will be distracted by your high pitched squeals.
 
We have a 2-tier justice system that will only become whole, when the blind lady of justice holding the scale puts Hillary Clinton behind bars for her multitude of crimes.

That is the result for far lesser crimes... Scooter Libby’s failing memory comes quickly to mind... and if failing memory can get you put in jail, Hillary would be serving nine life sentences.

The problem being that the political focus is some skewed right now, and no one is willing to cast an eye to the other side for the time being besides those who's motives would most likely be immediately questioned.

The DNC just had one of their own, spill the beans on one of their most damning scandals yet, and no one who should be is giving it a real second thought. Its all collusion this, and hidden tax policies this, and sex offender that...

Even though the necessary proof is severely lacking in a vast majorities of these issues.

Its completely aggravating to be a politically minded individual, and see the country continually chew its own legs off.
 
Why stop at 20? Why not claim Clinton's imaginary crimes are a million gazillion times worse than Watergate and whatever is being currently prosecuted in the Trump administration? I really thought your obsession with Hillary would end with her political career, and on that I was completely wrong.

It's going to be fun watching you get more and more vocal about Clinton as the investigation of Trump proceeds. Just know that neither Mueller nor America will be distracted by your high pitched squeals.

There is no reason to be juvenile about this.
 
There is no reason to be juvenile about this.

Juvenile would be screaming at the top of your lungs about fake crimes no one has any evidence for about a disgraced former politician while actively ignoring any and all charges, evidence and prosecutions happening in the Trump administration right now.

This is just a distraction technique from the most hyperpartisan poster on this forum, the OP. Trump could get convicted of pedophilia and you'd still have people screaming about Hillary. For those people it's always about what team they're on and never about justice.
 
Juvenile would be screaming at the top of your lungs about fake crimes no one has any evidence for about a disgraced former politician while actively ignoring any and all charges, evidence and prosecutions happening in the Trump administration right now.

This is just a distraction technique from the most hyperpartisan poster on this forum, the OP. Trump could get convicted of pedophilia and you'd still have people screaming about Hillary. For those people it's always about what team they're on and never about justice.

You sir, are wrong on that.
Should Trump even get convicted of such a crime, in the court of law. Then we would all gather together, and dismiss him as such the creature the court had found him to be. Because that is the way the law works in this country.
You are accused, tried, and convicted.

Not convicted first.

I am wholly aware of the accusations against Trump, and so is the OP. All of us who support him, need to have a solid understanding of these things to even debate the tact of such accusations when they arise. Which is why we withhold judgment, until the time as the court does, or does not find him guilty. We wait to see the evidence laid against him, we see the validity of such claims, and we can dispute the claims ourselves when the need arises. As well as being perfectly fine with the fact that he, or his cadre are being put to trial in the first place. Since it is a fundamental law of this country that we all agree to. As fact that many of us have cried out about, because despite some of the more lunacy driven claims against Trump. Our calls for a simple trial against Hillary herself are tossed aside like they do not matter. No matter the validity, or accuracy of the claims thrown at her, or the information gained from within her ranks, and just because she is no longer in the political spotlight. Does not save her from punishment of her own past misdeeds.

For many of us, a fair trial is all we ask. Instead of Comey using his position to decide, even before the investigation was done. That she would just be able to walk away, when even her own treatment of the situation was a punishable offense.

All I am calling for, is some decency for once in these threads. Instead of the same slander that keeps getting thrown around all the damn time. Most of us here are adults, so can we please conduct ourselves as such?
 
We have a 2-tier justice system that will only become whole, when the blind lady of justice holding the scale puts Hillary Clinton behind bars for her multitude of crimes.

That is the result for far lesser crimes... Scooter Libby’s failing memory comes quickly to mind... and if failing memory can get you put in jail, Hillary would be serving nine life sentences.

Whichever devil Hillary Clinton signed an agreement with has kept her well protected during these past 30 years of various felonies she's had a part in.
 
I think Michael Flynn proposing a kidnapping and Paul Manafort laundering money are issues a wee bit more serious than this old story.
 
You sir, are wrong on that.
Should Trump even get convicted of such a crime, in the court of law. Then we would all gather together, and dismiss him as such the creature the court had found him to be. Because that is the way the law works in this country.
You are accused, tried, and convicted.

Not convicted first.

I am wholly aware of the accusations against Trump, and so is the OP. All of us who support him, need to have a solid understanding of these things to even debate the tact of such accusations when they arise. Which is why we withhold judgment, until the time as the court does, or does not find him guilty. We wait to see the evidence laid against him, we see the validity of such claims, and we can dispute the claims ourselves when the need arises. As well as being perfectly fine with the fact that he, or his cadre are being put to trial in the first place. Since it is a fundamental law of this country that we all agree to. As fact that many of us have cried out about, because despite some of the more lunacy driven claims against Trump. Our calls for a simple trial against Hillary herself are tossed aside like they do not matter. No matter the validity, or accuracy of the claims thrown at her, or the information gained from within her ranks, and just because she is no longer in the political spotlight. Does not save her from punishment of her own past misdeeds.

For many of us, a fair trial is all we ask. Instead of Comey using his position to decide, even before the investigation was done. That she would just be able to walk away, when even her own treatment of the situation was a punishable offense.

All I am calling for, is some decency for once in these threads. Instead of the same slander that keeps getting thrown around all the damn time. Most of us here are adults, so can we please conduct ourselves as such?

Hrm... Innocent until proven guilty, that sounds like a pretty good idea. Why don't we apply that to Hillary as well? Comey didn't charge Hillary in the e-mail ordeal because he couldn't prove criminal intent, which would be required for a conviction, and that's a good thing too because otherwise we'd be able to prosecute Trump and many in his administration for using private cell phones and private e-mail. Where's the outrage on that? I can still hear the chants of "Lock her up!" It was never about justice for the hyperpartisans, only using the justice system as a bludgeon to hurt their political enemies.

So in a time where an actual real investigation and prosecutions are going on against the Trump administration, we're being told by the right it's all just a witch hunt and that we should be looking only at Hillary instead. It's just not that credible. Hillary is gone, thank god, so get over it. If you have concrete evidence of wrong doing and not just conspiracy theories from random blogs you found, gather it up, start some legal proceedings and let the justice system work.

Whichever devil Hillary Clinton signed an agreement with has kept her well protected during these past 30 years of various felonies she's had a part in.

Lol, this is a pretty good example of the conspiracy theory lunacy I'm talking about. It's totally absurd to think the Trump campaign might have colluded with Russia, but it's totally believable she signed a deep-state agreement with the Illuminati to absolve her from all prosecution for decades. Total nuttery.
 
Hrm... Innocent until proven guilty, that sounds like a pretty good idea. Why don't we apply that to Hillary as well? Comey didn't charge Hillary in the e-mail ordeal because he couldn't prove criminal intent, which would be required for a conviction, and that's a good thing too because otherwise we'd be able to prosecute Trump and many in his administration for using private cell phones and private e-mail. Where's the outrage on that? I can still hear the chants of "Lock her up!" It was never about justice for the hyperpartisans, only using the justice system as a bludgeon to hurt their political enemies.

So in a time where an actual real investigation and prosecutions are going on against the Trump administration, we're being told by the right it's all just a witch hunt and that we should be looking only at Hillary instead. It's just not that credible. Hillary is gone, thank god, so get over it. If you have concrete evidence of wrong doing and not just conspiracy theories from random blogs you found, gather it up, start some legal proceedings and let the justice system work.



Lol, this is a pretty good example of the conspiracy theory lunacy I'm talking about. It's totally absurd to think the Trump campaign might have colluded with Russia, but it's totally believable she signed a deep-state agreement with the Illuminati to absolve her from all prosecution for decades. Total nuttery.

You appear to have no awareness of how corrupt Washington is.

You might consider launching an investigation.
 
I think Michael Flynn proposing a kidnapping and Paul Manafort laundering money are issues a wee bit more serious than this old story.

Let's be honest here, NBC News are the only ones 'proposing a kidnapping', using anonymous sources to claim a crime was committed.

With such a serious allegations at hand, I think it's important to remember that the President of NBC News was recently under fire for trying to cover up Harvey Weinstein's history of rape. NBC News has a serious credibility problem at the moment.
 
Hrm... Innocent until proven guilty, that sounds like a pretty good idea. Why don't we apply that to Hillary as well? Comey didn't charge Hillary in the e-mail ordeal because he couldn't prove criminal intent, which would be required for a conviction, and that's a good thing too because otherwise we'd be able to prosecute Trump and many in his administration for using private cell phones and private e-mail. Where's the outrage on that? I can still hear the chants of "Lock her up!" It was never about justice for the hyperpartisans, only using the justice system as a bludgeon to hurt their political enemies.

So in a time where an actual real investigation and prosecutions are going on against the Trump administration, we're being told by the right it's all just a witch hunt and that we should be looking only at Hillary instead. It's just not that credible. Hillary is gone, thank god, so get over it. If you have concrete evidence of wrong doing and not just conspiracy theories from random blogs you found, gather it up, start some legal proceedings and let the justice system work.



Lol, this is a pretty good example of the conspiracy theory lunacy I'm talking about. It's totally absurd to think the Trump campaign might have colluded with Russia, but it's totally believable she signed a deep-state agreement with the Illuminati to absolve her from all prosecution for decades. Total nuttery.

Criminal intent was not necessary to be proven, only gross negligence. Which by his own admittance was what she had done, and then he for some reason decided to soften the language of his address "multiple times". Which has all of us who actually follow the letter of the law, or have had at least some extent of a career in doing so to be somewhat angered by this.
He bailed her out of that situation, and in my opinion there is no getting around it.

I will admit however that while the investigation has actually found some credible evidence against some of the members of the current administration. They have yet to find any real evidence connecting Trump to their supposed target or Russia. So seeing as many of the DNC, or more assuredly so. Many of the posters here on DP keep pushing that he is somehow guilty of some act they have no proof of.

That still qualifies as a witch-hunt.

Besides, I have never claimed that we should only look at Hillary, as both cases have strong viability.
 
Criminal intent was not necessary to be proven, only gross negligence. Which by his own admittance was what she had done, and then he for some reason decided to soften the language of his address "multiple times". Which has all of us who actually follow the letter of the law, or have had at least some extent of a career in doing so to be somewhat angered by this.
He bailed her out of that situation, and in my opinion there is no getting around it.
I will admit however that while the investigation has actually found some credible evidence against some of the members of the current administration. They have yet to find any real evidence connecting Trump to their supposed target or Russia. So seeing as many of the DNC, or more assuredly so. Many of the posters here on DP keep pushing that he is somehow guilty of some act they have no proof of.
That still qualifies as a witch-hunt.
Besides, I have never claimed that we should only look at Hillary, as both cases have strong viability.

So then I can assume you're in full support of putting anyone and everyone in the Trump administration who has used a private cell phone or e-mail into a federal prison? That is gross, criminal negligence after all. Should we send the feds to Collin Powell's house to pick him up and shuttle him to the jail house for using a private e-mail during his tenure as SoS as well? We can find hundreds if not thousands of examples of such atrocities, time to start hammering them all because you're totally non-partisan and want the law applied equally right?
 
So then I can assume you're in full support of putting anyone and everyone in the Trump administration who has used a private cell phone or e-mail into a federal prison? That is gross, criminal negligence after all. Should we send the feds to Collin Powell's house to pick him up and shuttle him to the jail house for using a private e-mail during his tenure as SoS as well? We can find hundreds if not thousands of examples of such atrocities, time to start hammering them all because you're totally non-partisan and want the law applied equally right?

If they use those private accounts to shuttle mass amounts of sensitive, classified documents, or especially if they haven't verified/registered those phones with the state department, or followed the protocol as such.

Then yes.
Even Obama had to follow special precautions to keep using his personal BlackBerry.

I have gone over this, with others ad nauseum.
 
So then I can assume you're in full support of putting anyone and everyone in the Trump administration who has used a private cell phone or e-mail into a federal prison? That is gross, criminal negligence after all. Should we send the feds to Collin Powell's house to pick him up and shuttle him to the jail house for using a private e-mail during his tenure as SoS as well? We can find hundreds if not thousands of examples of such atrocities, time to start hammering them all because you're totally non-partisan and want the law applied equally right?

First, you and I are generally in agreement, but not this time. Hillary and the DNC seem to have been found to have paid for the Dossier that precipitated the "Russia bad, Russia evil, PUtin Bad, Putin evil" mentality and investigations currently plagueing our Nation. 17 Intel Agencies couldn't seem to figure that out or are in cahoots, ignorant, partisan or complicit. Ergo, the investigation should be sniffing up its' own nose instead of passing the buck to atte pt to absolve itself. Gonna be fun to watch. Hillary denied any knowledge of the Dossier, repeatedly. Should Hillary be investigated? Does a cat have an ass?
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We have a 2-tier justice system that will only become whole, when the blind lady of justice holding the scale puts Hillary Clinton behind bars for her multitude of crimes.

That is the result for far lesser crimes... Scooter Libby’s failing memory comes quickly to mind... and if failing memory can get you put in jail, Hillary would be serving nine life sentences.

Would you expect any other comments from this guy, who happens to be a dyed in the wool Trump supporter. Talk about fair and balanced...................
 
Lol, this is a pretty good example of the conspiracy theory lunacy I'm talking about. It's totally absurd to think the Trump campaign might have colluded with Russia, but it's totally believable she signed a deep-state agreement with the Illuminati to absolve her from all prosecution for decades. Total nuttery.

Well yes, your version does sound pretty nutty. It has nothing to do with what I believe, however.

My version is that big business interests control most aspects of our domestic and foreign policy, and that these people have the money to own politicians like Hillary Clinton. She does their bidding, and is protected in return.
 
We have a 2-tier justice system that will only become whole, when the blind lady of justice holding the scale puts Hillary Clinton behind bars for her multitude of crimes.

That is the result for far lesser crimes... Scooter Libby’s failing memory comes quickly to mind... and if failing memory can get you put in jail, Hillary would be serving nine life sentences.

All true, so why is nothing being done to rectify this situation
 
Let's be honest here, NBC News are the only ones 'proposing a kidnapping', using anonymous sources to claim a crime was committed.

With such a serious allegations at hand, I think it's important to remember that the President of NBC News was recently under fire for trying to cover up Harvey Weinstein's history of rape. NBC News has a serious credibility problem at the moment.
How about you be honest? The allegations are not some made up "fake news" story like I know you desperately need to believe.

The source is actually James Woolsey, a neoconservative ex-CIA director that was one of the strongest advocates of the Iraq war and war on terror. He was literally present during part of the conversation, so he's actually a witness to this. When a guy like Woolsey wants nothing to do with a covert operation, that's not a good sign.

Shout "fake news!" until you're blue in the face, but reality doesn't really care, and neither do investigators.

And you might not want to crow about NBC when FOX has been neck deep with IN HOUSE sexual harassment.
 
Well yes, your version does sound pretty nutty. It has nothing to do with what I believe, however.

My version is that big business interests control most aspects of our domestic and foreign policy, and that these people have the money to own politicians like Hillary Clinton. She does their bidding, and is protected in return.
And they don't own Trump?:lamo

I swear Trumpism is like a cult.
 
And they don't own Trump?:lamo

I swear Trumpism is like a cult.

They very well may. Tillerson, Icahn, and several others have worried me. If Trump were to bow to big business, it wouldn't surprise me.

Big business owns our American media lock, stock, and barrel. So fighting Goldman Sachs & big oil is a losing proposition at present.
 
I think Michael Flynn proposing a kidnapping and Paul Manafort laundering money are issues a wee bit more serious than this old story.

The problem is “this old story” is a true story, where we have a stunning example of felonious behaviors of a public official going unpunished. A very public example of a 2-tier justice system.
 
Let's be honest here, NBC News are the only ones 'proposing a kidnapping', using anonymous sources to claim a crime was committed.

With such a serious allegations at hand, I think it's important to remember that the President of NBC News was recently under fire for trying to cover up Harvey Weinstein's history of rape. NBC News has a serious credibility problem at the moment.

The Goebbels Inspired Media Propagandists (GIMPs) have been running cover for The Clinton Crime Family for ages.

Had this been a Republican, The Clinton Crime Syndicate would have been snuffed out in 1992. Felonious Bill would never have come close to the nomination. They would have been a footnote in a presidential year.
 
Would you expect any other comments from this guy, who happens to be a dyed in the wool Trump supporter. Talk about fair and balanced...................

You cannot address the subject at hand, so you attack the messenger. You learned from the Clintons well I see.

PS. I used to be a Leftist at one time. Changing was an evolutionary process. I kept an open mind and after a period of about a decade of world travels, changed my mind 180 degrees.

You? A “moderate”, with your comments? I think you should try a little intellectual honesty.
 
And they don't own Trump?:lamo

I swear Trumpism is like a cult.

Trump came to office not owing Big Business anything. That was one of the attractions. He didn’t need their money. He didn’t need to pander to their support of illegal invader cheap labor.

Trump is for American companies doing well in an international playing field. He is for American companies prospering and staying at home, and making the business climate so fertile foreign companies (lower taxes and fewer overbearing regs) will consider opening shop here. I know... a novel idea for Socialists.

The “Cult” is the Leftists who believe Trump, as pro-American as they come, worked in concert with Russians to win the election. That takes some mind raping drugs to get there... especially when your party has been the USSR/Russia loving “reset” stooges for 60-years.

The Left had a Socialist candidate, who defeated a socialist candidate, who is a criminal and dishonest to her core, and has been known to be that way since her Watergate days. The Socialists of America Partei (SAPs) held her criminal family up as royalty, and now complain of a cult on the other side.

ROTFLMFAO...
 
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