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Former Asst. FBI Director: Clinton Crimes 20 Times Bigger than Watergate

zimmer said:
Trump came to office not owing Big Business anything. That was one of the attractions. He didn’t need their money.
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A poor person has never been elected president.
 
zimmer said:
Trump came to office not owing Big Business anything. That was one of the attractions. He didn’t need their money. He didn’t need to pander to their support of illegal invader cheap labor.

Trump is for American companies doing well in an international playing field. He is for American companies prospering and staying at home, and making the business climate so fertile foreign companies (lower taxes and fewer overbearing regs) will consider opening shop here. I know... a novel idea for Socialists.

The “Cult” is the Leftists who believe Trump, as pro-American as they come, worked in concert with Russians to win the election. That takes some mind raping drugs to get there... especially when your party has been the USSR/Russia loving “reset” stooges for 60-years.

The Left had a Socialist candidate, who defeated a socialist candidate, who is a criminal and dishonest to her core, and has been known to be that way since her Watergate days. The Socialists of America Partei (SAPs) held her criminal family up as royalty, and now complain of a cult on the other side.

ROTFLMFAO...
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"Mind Rape", is that a THING now?

These people who act like they have no interest in listening, little interest in the truth, are basically feral actually annoy me.....

ACTUALLY

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Hawkeye10 said:
You know that sounds like an argument that the Elite Class being completely corrupt is JUST FINE AND DANDY!
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That's a misunderstanding of my point.
 
ecofarm said:
A poor person has never been elected president.
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So what?

A “poor” person likely had a few things happen:

1. They were lazy.

2. They made bad choices. (See point 1).

3. They expected government to be their savior.

4. They were unlucky.

5. They were wealthy and lost it all.

Why doesn’t the Socialists of America Partei (SAPs) nominate a “poor” person instead of a criminal? Or a Democratic Communist with four houses.

Me... I want someone who has worked damn hard, succeeded, and knows wtf is going on.
 
MovingPictures said:
How about you be honest? The allegations are not some made up "fake news" story like I know you desperately need to believe.

The source is actually James Woolsey, a neoconservative ex-CIA director that was one of the strongest advocates of the Iraq war and war on terror. He was literally present during part of the conversation, so he's actually a witness to this. When a guy like Woolsey wants nothing to do with a covert operation, that's not a good sign.

Shout "fake news!" until you're blue in the face, but reality doesn't really care, and neither do investigators.

And you might not want to crow about NBC when FOX has been neck deep with IN HOUSE sexual harassment.
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I intensely dislike most neo-cons. Touting Woolsey's resume of being a war hawk/neo-con/CIA asshat doesn't garner trust from me.
 
zimmer said:
We have a 2-tier justice system that will only become whole, when the blind lady of justice holding the scale puts Hillary Clinton behind bars for her multitude of crimes.

That is the result for far lesser crimes... Scooter Libby’s failing memory comes quickly to mind... and if failing memory can get you put in jail, Hillary would be serving nine life sentences.
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Aren't you even a wee bit embarrassed to post something this stupid?
 
calamity said:
Aren't you even a wee bit embarrassed to post something this stupid?
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Stupid?

It seems you are so far gone as to miss the blatantly obvious. I believe that condition is called “blatantly oblivious”.

If my point is so “stupid”, why not come out and make minced meat of it, instead of attacking the poster?

You can’t debate it, so you default to the SAPs favorite position... attack the messenger. It’s why you’re still a Socialists of America Partei (SAP) member.
 
zimmer said:
Stupid?

It seems you are so far gone as to miss the blatantly obvious. I believe that condition is called “blatantly oblivious”.

If my point is so “stupid”, why not come out and make minced meat of it, instead of attacking the poster?

You can’t debate it, so you default to the SAPs favorite position... attack the messenger. It’s why you’re still a Socialists of America Partei (SAP) member.
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Dude, your source is PJ Media.
 
ecofarm said:
I don't think that's it.
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It is that...
You obviously didn;t make your point clear, and I am not a mind reader.

I know one thing... you’re not in business. Failure to communicate clearly costs big time.
 
calamity said:
Dude, your source is PJ Media.
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Pathetic, and illustrative of a closed mind.

The source was a former Assistant Director of the FBI.

You may disagree with him, and thereby make a lucid case against Kallstrom, but you haven’t...

...Dude.
 
zimmer said:
Pathetic, and illustrative of a closed mind.

The source was a former Assistant Director of the FBI.

You may disagree with him, and thereby make a lucid case against Kallstrom, but you haven’t...

...Dude.
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"20 times worse..." is the premise. You don't see the silliness in that?
 
calamity said:
"20 times worse..." is the premise. You don't see the silliness in that?*
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Socialist of America Partei members (SAPs) have always contended that they understood nuance, and the right are a bunch of Neanderthals who just can’t grasp the subtleties of life (make me barf).

Here we have a former Associate FBI Director, in an interview stating Clinton crimes are 20-times larger than Watergate.

Q: What is the non-nuanced nuance here? (Because it isn’t nuanced)

A: The Clinton crimes are deadly serious, multiple, and far beyond what Nixon had done (cover up a third-rate burglary). Hence the use of 20-times to illustrate the magnitude of the Clinton crimes and their involvement orchestrating them (something Nixon did not do with the Watergate break-in).

And SAPs think they’re so bright (facepalm). They can’t even figure out the simplest equations... which explains why they’re SAPs.

*I see the silliness in your responses. They’re simply Monty Python’s Flying Circus... The Ministry Of Silly Walks level of silliness. Perhaps if in the EU, or if Obama were still resident SAP Presidentè, they’d provide a grant for it!!!
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
Juvenile would be screaming at the top of your lungs about fake crimes no one has any evidence for about a disgraced former politician while actively ignoring any and all charges, evidence and prosecutions happening in the Trump administration right now.

This is just a distraction technique from the most hyperpartisan poster on this forum, the OP. Trump could get convicted of pedophilia and you'd still have people screaming about Hillary. For those people it's always about what team they're on and never about justice.
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What has Trump been charged with, FBI has some folks for tax,and other problems but nothing on Trump, no Russian collusion nothing, so what are you talking about.
But there is proof on Hillery, we just need it investigated by folks that’s not protecting her crimes.
But do tell us what charges Trump has at this time?


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MrShangles said:
What has Trump been charged with, FBI has some folks for tax,and other problems but nothing on Trump, no Russian collusion nothing, so what are you talking about.
But there is proof on Hillery, we just need it investigated by folks that’s not protecting her crimes.
But do tell us what charges Trump has at this time?


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Read again. I never said Trump had any charges against him, I said members of his administration. Screaming about the imaginary crimes of some disgraced former politician like Hillary isn't going to distract America from the very real crimes in Trump's administration being investigated right now.
 
zimmer said:
You cannot address the subject at hand, so you attack the messenger. You learned from the Clintons well I see.

PS. I used to be a Leftist at one time. Changing was an evolutionary process. I kept an open mind and after a period of about a decade of world travels, changed my mind 180 degrees.

You? A “moderate”, with your comments? I think you should try a little intellectual honesty.
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If you want some honesty, tell us just how many different ID's you post under, and lie constantly under.
 
Oborosen said:
There is no reason to be juvenile about this.
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Have to understand who you are talking too.

the OP is right though. If anyone else had done what clinton did they would be hung out to dry and sitting in federal prison right now.
for some reason they have this untouchable barrier that no one will do anything to them.

Maybe it is because too many people end up dead around them when it comes to outing them for who they are.

I find it funny that their so called foundation closed down as soon as she lost the election. in fact donations dropped to almost nothing
after she lost the election. more so on it's global initiative.

Donations to the foundation tripled while Clinton was SOS.
that is quite and amazing bit of ground work. I mean tripling donations in
a 3 year period?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Read again. I never said Trump had any charges against him, I said members of his administration. Screaming about the imaginary crimes of some disgraced former politician like Hillary isn't going to distract America from the very real crimes in Trump's administration being investigated right now.
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ROTFLOL... what “real crimes”?

We do know Hillary has committed real crimes, crimes anyone else had done would have been perp walked.

Comey listed a host of them, and then failed to pass the baton so a case would be brought against her, stating the intention wasn’t there.

Intent or no, it doesn’t matter. She committed heinous crimes that would send any mortal to the jar for double digits.

It seems Comey should be investigated too for coming to a premeditated conclusion. Lynch should be investigated as well.

The crimes on the Socialists of America Partei (SAPs) side of the equation are numerous... and we haven;t gotten to the Clintons, Russia and Uranium One!!!

That Doll called Justice seems to have had her blind removed, her skirt lifted and been given the shaft by a corrupt lot of SAPs in DC.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Juvenile would be screaming at the top of your lungs about fake crimes no one has any evidence for about a disgraced former politician while actively ignoring any and all charges, evidence and prosecutions happening in the Trump administration right now.

This is just a distraction technique from the most hyperpartisan poster on this forum, the OP. Trump could get convicted of pedophilia and you'd still have people screaming about Hillary. For those people it's always about what team they're on and never about justice.
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She told her aid to strip classification markings and send a classified document unsecured. That would get you or I court martialed.

She held classified information on non-classified systems, that to would have gotten you or I court martialed.

She disseminated classified information to people without clearances, that would have gotten you or I court martialed.

Clinton failed to produced subpoenaed e-mail, that is in contempt of a court order.

Smashed blackberries, destroyed sims, bleachbitted servers, which is destruction of evidence.


How are those crimes, fake?

Comey admitted she committed crimes then said he didn't recommend prosecution. In what world could you or I do that without consequences?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Hrm... Innocent until proven guilty, that sounds like a pretty good idea. Why don't we apply that to Hillary as well? Comey didn't charge Hillary in the e-mail ordeal because he couldn't prove criminal intent, which would be required for a conviction, and that's a good thing too because otherwise we'd be able to prosecute Trump and many in his administration for using private cell phones and private e-mail. Where's the outrage on that? I can still hear the chants of "Lock her up!" It was never about justice for the hyperpartisans, only using the justice system as a bludgeon to hurt their political enemies.
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For the laws she broke criminal intent is not a standard. In fact it doesn't even exist in the law. Comey pulled that out of his ass. The only thing that mentioned in the statute is Gross negligence in which his original memo included and then he changed it and invented some BS about intent. No one intends to break the law but when has that ever been a standard? You don't intend to speed but that won't stop the cop from writing you a ticket when you do.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m-to-hillary-clintons/?utm_term=.2ffe34127298

So in a time where an actual real investigation and prosecutions are going on against the Trump administration, we're being told by the right it's all just a witch hunt and that we should be looking only at Hillary instead. It's just not that credible. Hillary is gone, thank god, so get over it. If you have concrete evidence of wrong doing and not just conspiracy theories from random blogs you found, gather it up, start some legal proceedings and let the justice system work.
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Yet nothing has been produced that Trump has broken any laws. So get over it.
We have hard evidence and we had an FBI director obstruct justice for political reasons. Comey should in fact be arrested for obstruction of justice.

Lol, this is a pretty good example of the conspiracy theory lunacy I'm talking about. It's totally absurd to think the Trump campaign might have colluded with Russia, but it's totally believable she signed a deep-state agreement with the Illuminati to absolve her from all prosecution for decades. Total nuttery.
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Collusion is not a crime except in anti-trust laws so please stop using terms you don't understand the application too.
So far as former CIA, FBI, Democratic intelligence members and others have stated time and time again there is 0 evidence that Trump
did anything with russia.

For some reason no one will prosecute the Clinton's. There is a reason behind this. Yes it is total nutters that they can continue to break the law and get away with it where other people
are put in prison.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
She told her aid to strip classification markings and send a classified document unsecured. That would get you or I court martialed.

She held classified information on non-classified systems, that to would have gotten you or I court martialed.

She disseminated classified information to people without clearances, that would have gotten you or I court martialed.

Clinton failed to produced subpoenaed e-mail, that is in contempt of a court order.

Smashed blackberries, destroyed sims, bleachbitted servers, which is destruction of evidence.


How are those crimes, fake?

Comey admitted she committed crimes then said he didn't recommend prosecution. In what world could you or I do that without consequences?
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actually you and i would have been put in Leavenworth for doing that.
 
Floridafan said:
If you want some honesty, tell us just how many different ID's you post under, and lie constantly under.
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Why not name a few of these supposed sock puppets?

What lies? Why not identify a few?

You see FLfan... (your handle is almost a bit of Swedish profanity)... you’re out of your league, massively so, if that’s what you consider “debate”. May I suggest you reduce your diet of Democratic Underground, and instead sit back for a few months and watch how it’s done.

You’re not doing the Socialists of America Partei (SAPs) any favors. They have a difficult enough time of it as it is with their multiple shell games, without you adding to their woes.

Now... about your intellectual honesty calling yourself a “moderate”? A moderate what? Eater? Drinker? Surely you do not believe you are a political moderate... do you? ROTFLOL...

First thing to succeed in life it to know thyself. Be honest about theyself. Then you’ve got a structure to work from. Then again, perhaps you;re using Bill and Hillary Clintons structure of dishonesty. If so, then “moderate” may well be accurate.
 
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