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Obama had a titanic ego

Born Free said:
Please enlighten me. All of Obama's so call do anything was deleted by Trump. Obama has no legacy except failed Ocare, failed Syria WMD deal, failed Iran deal, failed North Korea, failed Libya bombing. All failures.

Hillary did what??????
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Ahh, the critic. It's so easy to sit back and criticize.

1. Conservatives criticized Obamacare. Now where is their alternative? So far their proposals are just Obamacare without any fiscal responsibility.

2. Conservatives criticized the Iran deal. They said they would rip it up. Now Tilllerson and everyone wants to keep it.

3. Conservatives criticized Obama on North Korea. What have they done so far? I guess we'll wait for a NK deal so we liberals can sit back and criticize it.

Wasn't bin Laden killed under Obama?

Wasn't the war against ISIS won under Obama with Trump to come it at the end to claim credit?

Didn't the stimulus work well enough for Trump to come in and take credit for unemployment and stock market trends that have continued for 6 years?

Trump is the most unpopular president in modern history. He has no shot at a second term. He may not finish out his first term due to an ongoing investigation. Trump's legacy will be the worst president in modern history.
 
AlbqOwl said:
President Obama's ego was evident in his speaking style using "I" or 'my' etc. really excessively.

In a 40 minutes speech in 2014, CNS news counted the number of "I", "me", "myself" Obama used in a 40 minute speech - 199 times or once every 12 seconds. That is typical of his speaking style in most--not all--cases.
Just How Many Times Barack Obama Said Me, Myself & I in Latest Speech Broke the Narcissism Index

I don't know if that is evidence of a titanic ego though or a ploy to convince people to give him credit that he so desperately craved.

In comparison, President Trump rarely using such personal pronouns, but much more typically uses the inclusive "we", "our", "you". From the link, President Lincoln uses 272 words in the Gettysburg Address without referring to himself at all.
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I always noticed Obama’s “I” useage. Never liked it because I thought it was much over-used. There really is no “I” in Democracy.
 
americanwoman said:
Okay, argue with me that killing Osama bin Laden, who orchestrated the largest terrorist attack against the US, was NOT an accomplishment that happened under Obama's watch. Love to hear this.
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SonOfDaedalus said:
Ahh, the critic. It's so easy to sit back and criticize.

1. Conservatives criticized Obamacare. Now where is their alternative? So far their proposals are just Obamacare without any fiscal responsibility.

2. Conservatives criticized the Iran deal. They said they would rip it up. Now Tilllerson and everyone wants to keep it.

3. Conservatives criticized Obama on North Korea. What have they done so far? I guess we'll wait for a NK deal so we liberals can sit back and criticize it.

Wasn't bin Laden killed under Obama?

Wasn't the war against ISIS won under Obama with Trump to come it at the end to claim credit?

Didn't the stimulus work well enough for Trump to come in and take credit for unemployment and stock market trends that have continued for 6 years?

Trump is the most unpopular president in modern history. He has no shot at a second term. He may not finish out his first term due to an ongoing investigation. Trump's legacy will be the worst president in modern history.
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Sometimes a law is so bad it just needs to be abolished without replacing it with anything.
Sometimes a law is so destructive and counter productive or does so much harm it should be abolished whether a replacement is in place or not.
When you put out a fire, what do you replace it with?

We should not judge the worth of any legislation just because nobody has offered something better.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Sometimes a law is so bad it just needs to be abolished without replacing it with anything.

Sometimes a law is so destructive and counter productive or does so much harm it should be abolished whether a replacement is in place or not.
When you put out a fire, what do you replace it with?

We should not judge the worth of any legislation just because nobody has offered something better.
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I'm sure kids with pre-existing conditions appreciate that train of thought.

Their parents just might want something in place so their child doesn't lose their coverage because they had the audacity to be born with medical issues. But **** em, right?
 
AlbqOwl said:
Sometimes a law is so bad it just needs to be abolished without replacing it with anything.
Sometimes a law is so destructive and counter productive or does so much harm it should be abolished whether a replacement is in place or not.
When you put out a fire, what do you replace it with?

We should not judge the worth of any legislation just because nobody has offered something better.
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I know of three different people who are alive today because of the ACA allowed them to get insurance to allow them to get the medical care they needed. That also allowed me to get insurance for my 'foster' daughter to help control her epileptic seizures when she had break through seizures after not having them for 10 years, which allowed her to finish college, and pursuit a career in engineering. (that pre-existing condition thingy you know). Seems to me that was of great benefit.
 
americanwoman said:
Okay, argue with me that killing Osama bin Laden, who orchestrated the largest terrorist attack against the US, was NOT an accomplishment that happened under Obama's watch. Love to hear this.
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OK good for you, got another? But I will say that now that the information has been released it was found OBL was working with Iran, if i'm not mistaken. Yet Obama cut the worst deal with Iran ever made in US History allowing Iran to have all the nukes is wants in about 8 yrs.
 
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SonOfDaedalus said:
Ahh, the critic. It's so easy to sit back and criticize.

1. Conservatives criticized Obamacare. Now where is their alternative? So far their proposals are just Obamacare without any fiscal responsibility.
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Your saying Obamacare is a success. What planet are you on??????

2. Conservatives criticized the Iran deal. They said they would rip it up. Now Tilllerson and everyone wants to keep it.
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Tell me who in their right mind would cut a deal with Iran to have all the nukes and basaltic missals they want in the next 8 yrs that can reach the US.

3. Conservatives criticized Obama on North Korea. What have they done so far? I guess we'll wait for a NK deal so we liberals can sit back and criticize it.
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Obama did absolutely nothing with NK, Nothing, zip zero, nada

Wasn't bin Laden killed under Obama?
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Yes and he gets credit for that one. However after the OBL papers were released it was revealed he was working with IRAN and what does Obama do, yep cuts a deal with Iran to have all the nukes they want.

Wasn't the war against ISIS won under Obama with Trump to come it at the end to claim credit?
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Are you kidding me. Obama tied the hands of our bombers and once Trump got in he unleashed our air-force to KILL ISIS. In fact it was the stupidly of Obama to leave Iraq and let ISIS grow into 30 countries and called them the JV Team.

Didn't the stimulus work well enough for Trump to come in and take credit for unemployment and stock market trends that have continued for 6 years?
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After borrowing 10 trillion to pump into our economy and end up with the worst recovery in US History and only average a 1.8% GDP for his 8 yrs, I would say NO but HELL NO

Trump is the most unpopular president in modern history. He has no shot at a second term. He may not finish out his first term due to an ongoing investigation. Trump's legacy will be the worst president in modern history.
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Obama was all pretty and had an elegant speech, and did not tweet, etc. But all that did not matter did it. He lost the House, Senate and the Whitehoue and over a 1,000 seats across the country during his 8 yrs all because of his failed policies.

Popularity does not mean squat, it's good policies that counts and good policies effect the American people in a good way. All Obama cared about was warming and gender bathrooms.
 
americanwoman said:
I'm sure kids with pre-existing conditions appreciate that train of thought.

Their parents just might want something in place so their child doesn't lose their coverage because they had the audacity to be born with medical issues. But **** em, right?
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Abolishing Obamacare does nothing to prevent any state from dealing with pre-existing conditions or whatever coverage shall be provided.
 
Born Free said:
Your saying Obamacare is a success. What planet are you on??????
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I didn't see those words. Perhaps you are hallucinating.
Tell me who in their right mind would cut a deal with Iran to have all the nukes and basaltic missals they want in the next 8 yrs that can reach the US.
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That's not what the deal is. Man you've really ate up some propaganda.
Obama did absolutely nothing with NK, Nothing, zip zero, nada
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Neither did the previous several presidents. What would you have done? Tell us all, oh wise one.
Yes and he gets credit for that one. However after the OBL papers were released it was revealed he was working with IRAN and what does Obama do, yep cuts a deal with Iran to have all the nukes they want.
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This bull**** again. You probably believe the moon landing is fake too :lamo
Are you kidding me. Obama tied the hands of our bombers and once Trump got in he unleashed our air-force to KILL ISIS. In fact it was the stupidly of Obama to leave Iraq and let ISIS grow into 30 countries and called them the JV Team.
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Laughable.
After borrowing 10 trillion to pump into our economy and end up with the worst recovery in US History and only average a 1.8% GDP for his 8 yrs, I would say NO but HELL NO
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Yeah I bet you're real upset that Bush crashed the economy.
 
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