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Trump Ruined My Vacation to Cuba

What an asshole presumption. I'm settling there because it's the most beautiful land and community I've found in world travels.

Sure you are. Americans are a plump portion of humanity and we are materially spoiled (many of us, not the homeless of LA's Skid Row). If one finds Cuban Spartan living conditions impossible then how is one going to find much of Africa's material hardships perfectly fine?




CGTN America
Published on Sep 24, 2015


The World Health Organization calls it one of the greatest feats in medicine today. Doctors in Cuba have discovered a way to prevent pregnant women with HIV from transmitting the virus to their children.


Oh, look, PBS NewsHour not presenting a completely one sided perspective on Cuban Doctors and Cuba exporting doctors to poor countries. PBS must be spreading Russian and Cuban propaganda. Putin must be behind PBS NewsHour pulling the strings.

The PBS program speaks with a former black NFL player in Cuba as he was studying tuition free in Cuba's medical school open to foreigners.


PBS NewsHour
Published on Dec 22, 2010


Ray Suarez wraps up his series on Cuba with a look at a "medical diplomacy" program that offers medical school education to low-income students from around the world.




As I have repeated a number of times on this website, I'm Christian, reared Catholic with sympathies now for Eastern Orthodoxy. A liberal Catholic (which I'm not) might be fine with communism. Catholic liberation theologians more or less were. While those liberation theologians may have made some good points at times, ultimately they were too materialistic. Which is the defect of socialist revolutions throughout the world include the one that took place in Cuba. Property rights are an important thing in Christianity--when it comes to establishing governments. Pope John Paul II and the Vatican were active fighters against communism, going so far as to work with US President Ronald Reagan and the CIA (shove your idiot "conspiracy theory" it is all now revealed fact). But even Pope John Paul II made his way to Cuba to meet with Fidel Castro. To old men who had been on opposite sides of the battle.

A proper Catholic formation is to see evil and virtue or good where they are irrespective if the person is called Samaritan, Muslim, Protestant, Socialist, or Cuban. That's why even the Council of Trent, and anti-Protestant Council, condemned specific ideas among Protestants as opposed to denying Protestants could ever do any good.

The American formation is to get caught and arrested at the label itself.

Bishop Barron on the virtues of justice, prudence, temperance, and fortitude, in his review of the Hollywood movie Bridge of Spies.

The virtue of justice allows a person to acknowledge a good or a success among the Cuban people. Has nothing about praising everything about Cubans or the Cuban Government.

In terms of temperance and fortitude the Cubans are the superior of the Americans. That includes myself. Look at how Spartan Cubans live (temperance).





https://boldanddetermined.com/live-like-a-spartan/

Spartans were notorious for living a simple, frugal, minimalist lifestyle. They ate only what they needed, kept their bodies fit, did not spend money wastefully.

A minimalist lifestyle is much more rewarding than the standard consumer lifestyle. To live a minimalist lifestyle you get by on the least amount possible and don’t concern yourself with over-indulgence. That’s gluttony.
 
Whats the deal with the race card. Is it impossible to disagree with politicsl ideilogies for resons other than skin color?

Listen, do give me that "let's not play the race card," thing. The Americas (including Caribbean islands) are not Europe and Poland. I cried when both John Paul II and Mother Teresa died. "The Last of the Mohican" [in the Catholic world] I said. John Paul II was still of that old school in which old, frail, and wracked by neurological disease you don't "retire," but you get back up and carry your cross as Skipper of the ship. Skipper of St. Peter's Ship. And John Paul II as a Pole suffered under Nazis and the later under communist. And both experiences had to have shaped him, left marks in both his perspectives and his character.

But socialism and communism, while perhaps essentially ideologically the same in Latin America, may have had its own cultural nuances in Latin America it did not have in Europe and Poland. Perhaps--or almost certainly--pat of that cultural nuance may have been racial and the history of the racial caste system throughout Latin America from the subjugation of the Amerindians to the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade of blacks. To include the rise of some mestizos throughout Latin America. Some.




And so as much as I have admired Pope John Paul II. I think his reported ill treatment of Archbishop Romero was wrong. Wrong to the extent the historical dynamics in Latin America were not the same as in Poland. And you had many non-whites living in abject poverty or what economist term absolute poverty. So, even if socialism or communism are not the best economic systems to establish, and even being cognizant in Europe socialists and communist often attacked the Church and persecuted priests (not so much so in Latin America, the priests in liberation theology--basically socialists--were helping the peasants, as opposed to the peasants killing them), one has to consider that leaving people in abject poverty they are going to accept and join some revolution.

Ergo my point about Cuba.

I'm not a very ideological person anyways. Political ideologies. I don't care about monarchies, democracies, socialism, dictatorships, diarchies, theocracies or whatever. Quality of life means more to me. My preference seems to be for capitalist democracies--particularly if they are fiscally liberal like the Netherlands and Germany. I like some amount of libertarian sympathies thrown in their in which case most sins are not criminalized e.g., prostitution, drug addiction, homosexuality, adultery, gambling.




Catholic News Service
Published on Mar 24, 2015

The soon-to-be beatified Salvadoran Archbishop Oscar Romero is remembered on the 35th anniversary of his assassination.



CGTN America
Published on Jul 13, 2015


El Salvador has one of the highest homicide rates in Latin America and the world. June 2015 was one of its most violent months in recent memory, with 630 homicides reported for the country of just over six million people.
 
Listen, do give me that "let's not play the race card," thing. The Americas (including Caribbean islands) are not Europe and Poland. I cried when both John Paul II and Mother Teresa died. "The Last of the Mohican" [in the Catholic world] I said. John Paul II was still of that old school in which old, frail, and wracked by neurological disease you don't "retire," but you get back up and carry your cross as Skipper of the ship. Skipper of St. Peter's Ship. And John Paul II as a Pole suffered under Nazis and the later under communist. And both experiences had to have shaped him, left marks in both his perspectives and his character.

But socialism and communism, while perhaps essentially ideologically the same in Latin America, may have had its own cultural nuances in Latin America it did not have in Europe and Poland. Perhaps--or almost certainly--pat of that cultural nuance may have been racial and the history of the racial caste system throughout Latin America from the subjugation of the Amerindians to the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade of blacks. To include the rise of some mestizos throughout Latin America. Some.




And so as much as I have admired Pope John Paul II. I think his reported ill treatment of Archbishop Romero was wrong. Wrong to the extent the historical dynamics in Latin America were not the same as in Poland. And you had many non-whites living in abject poverty or what economist term absolute poverty. So, even if socialism or communism are not the best economic systems to establish, and even being cognizant in Europe socialists and communist often attacked the Church and persecuted priests (not so much so in Latin America, the priests in liberation theology--basically socialists--were helping the peasants, as opposed to the peasants killing them), one has to consider that leaving people in abject poverty they are going to accept and join some revolution.

Ergo my point about Cuba.

I'm not a very ideological person anyways. Political ideologies. I don't care about monarchies, democracies, socialism, dictatorships, diarchies, theocracies or whatever. Quality of life means more to me. My preference seems to be for capitalist democracies--particularly if they are fiscally liberal like the Netherlands and Germany. I like some amount of libertarian sympathies thrown in their in which case most sins are not criminalized e.g., prostitution, drug addiction, homosexuality, adultery, gambling.









:lamo

let's not play the race card now?

You blew that back in post #90 all by yourself.
 
There are 107 inclusive Hotels in Cuba. These are the ones booked by over 90% of tourists. Yes there are motels, Bed and Breakfasts and less quality hotels for the Cuban population but as far as top rated tourist accommodations. These are most of them.




Not only can I book a trip to cuba but it's cheap as hell


https://www.expedia.com/Cuba.d44.Destination-Travel-Guides
https://www.booking.com/searchresul...;cdexp=1;city=-1628751;src=destinationfinder&


I have more choices if I want to go to cuba than I do if I wanted to go to antigua. for a lot lot less.
 
:lamo

let's not play the race card now?

You blew that back in post #90 all by yourself.


My comment was not a request not to play the race card, my comment was a statement saying don't give me a request not too. In other words the so-called "race card" is a part Cuba's history and certainly a factor that went into its socialist revolution. If you were smarter, at least as smart as a poor black Cuban, you would have understood that.
 
cLet me get this straight: We're the land of the free but I don't have the freedom to visit Cuba? What kind of freedom is that?
The right to liberty means the right to do as you pleases as long as you do not violate the rights of others. By visiting Cuba you leave money there, which the communist regime can use for suppressing their people. In this way your visit to Cuba may violate other people's rights. Therefore it may be right to have sanctions against Cuba, and the negative impact on the communist regime will be an incitement for them to stop violating the nature-given rights of the individuals. Another question is if this sanction politics is the most rational strategy to stop the communist right-violations on Cuba.
 
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