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Election night brings historic wins for minority and LGBT candidates

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holbritter said:
Are you happy because of the accomplishments being made, or because you'll get to see a few people (hardly a few 'dozen') lose their minds over it?
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While I'm pleased with the results, I'm in no way after upsetting or angering my fellow citizens. While I don't see any current path toward actual dialogue in the national conversation, I remain hopeful that one may arise somehow. That's certainly not going to happen when both sides enjoy the discontent of the other.
 
I think Trump's comment that there are some 'very fine people on both sides' woke a lot of moderates up and scared a lot of people.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
I think Trump's comment that there are some 'very fine people on both sides' woke a lot of moderates up and scared a lot of people.
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Just about every single day there are Trump comments that are waking a lot of people up.
And not just moderates.

And yes, a lot of people are being scared.
 
A transgender wins....in Virginia. LOL Trumpeys. It is all over for you guys. Please Please stand by your man.......
 
A year of hateful and childish rhetoric is enough for normal moderate people.
 
I think the 'draining the swamp' promise might hurt the GOP too. Many voted for Trump to 'drain the swamp', Somehow he conned millions into believing he was anti-elite and anti-establishment. Then he gets in office and surrounds himself with bankers, billionaires and the Wall Street elite. He spends more time golfing at his $200,000 a year club than the White House.

I've noticed a couple of people I know who voted for him gripe about his 'advisers' and cabinet as the same old same old. Being even worse than with past presidents. SOME people(not all, the 30% base will stick by him as long as he spews hate at the Muslims and Mexicans) are waking up and seeing they were conned.
 
holbritter said:
Are you happy because of the accomplishments being made, or because you'll get to see a few people (hardly a few 'dozen') lose their minds over it?
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I get your point, it there comes a time when peoples bad decisions need to be highlighted in the hopes they'll learn from their mistakes.

A con man blew smoke up their asses and they got so high they believed him.

Not all. Some voted for him because they always vote republican. Some wanted a tax cut. And some did it just to **** **** up.

But the ones that "believe" in him were fooled. Like all those investors he's burned over the years. All the trump university victims.

He's a dirtbag, and people are starting to see it.

Plus, he's simply not the man he used to be. Watch some old videos of him speaking and you'll see.
 
So the important factors in an election have become ethnicity and/or gender identity?

Swell.
 
Lutherf said:
So the important factors in an election have become ethnicity and/or gender identity?

Swell.
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If you saw some of Gillespie's ads you'd get that impression.

This is pretty wild to me.

Virginia voters elected the first openly transgender state legislator in Virginia, 33-year-old Democrat Danica Roem, who ran a campaign focused on transportation issues. She defeated 26-year incumbent and social conservative Bob Marshall, 73, author of a proposed “bathroom bill” prohibiting trans people from using the bathroom of their choice.

They ousted Republican House Majority Whip Jackson Miller, replacing him with Lee Carter, a former Marine and member of the Democratic Socialists who led a rendition of “Solidarity Forever,” the union anthem, at his victory party. Carter made his anti-Trump views plain in February when he marched on the White House chanting, “Hey hey, ho ho, Donald Trump has got to go.”

They elected Irish-Lebanese-Latina candidate Hala Ayala, former president of her local chapter of NOW. She defeated Republican incumbent Rich Anderson in Prince William, who had sent out controversial mailers accusing her of wanting to give rights to “thugs, violent criminals, gang members and child predators.” Ayala and Democrat Elizabeth Guzman, who also defeated a GOP incumbent, will be the first two Latinas in the Virginia House of Delegates.

Democrat Chris Hurst, whose reporter girlfriend Alison Parker was slain on live television in Virginia and ran on a gun control platform, unseated incumbent Republican Joseph Yost.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-verge-retaking-virginia-house-025928559.html

I used to live in VA, and always saw it as about a 50/50 state, much like NC and FL. Those results really surprise me.
 
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<alt>doxygen said:
If you saw some of Gillespie's ads you'd get that impression.
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I don't know about Gillespie's but the other side had a pickup truck with the Tea Party logo on the license place chasing Mexican kids down the street. Only Virginians could be detached enough to buy into that fantasy! But in reality:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...een_so_wrong_about_the_trump_boom_135471.html
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But a strong turnout in the Democratic-leaning northern Virginia suburbs of Washington helped propel Northam, who in the end won relatively easily. With nearly all precincts reporting, he led by a 53 percent to 45 percent margin.

Exit polls in Virginia showed that one-third of the voters went to the polls to oppose Trump, and only 17 percent went to support him.
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Which is fine. I accept their win. But I do take the reporting, predicting, and jubilation with a grain of salt. We all understand the media is going to way over state the importance of this victory.

What I cannot find yet is the new congressional rep vs dem map. How many federal seats changed hands? House & Senate?
 
chuckiechan said:
I don't know about Gillespie's but the other side had a pickup truck with the Tea Party logo on the license place chasing Mexican kids down the street. Only Virginians could be detached enough to buy into that fantasy! But in reality:





Which is fine. I accept their win. But I do take the reporting, predicting, and jubilation with a grain of salt. We all understand the media is going to way over state the importance of this victory.

What I cannot find yet is the new congressional rep vs dem map. How many federal seats changed hands? House & Senate?
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I have only seen state level contests. Were there federal elections? We had nothing here...
 
Lutherf said:
So the important factors in an election have become ethnicity and/or gender identity? Swell.
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Exactly the opposite,gender/sexuality is now far less important, is the entire drive and result of most fights for equality that modern day right wingers oppose.
Thanks to all the people who have sacrificed and championed their civil rights cause over the years.

Would openly LGBT have been seriously considered to serve the public in a prominent elected role 20 year ago? 40? 60? You realize that is because they were treated DIFFERENTLY by our mainstream culture, by the religious nuts and the conservative types, to the point they were intentionally marginalized, discriminated against, even hate crime murdered because of their sexuality.....

...culminating in yes...being treated just like any other ****ing politician. Let them stand on their message and behavior related to their service to the public, not based on some hate-filled discriminatory, reptilian-brained, knuckle dragging people who oppose them for their gender/sexuality.

Maybe one day open atheists will be treated like everyone else, we'll have to overcome the conservative right as usual. Keep on the good works Lutherf.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
I have only seen state level contests. Were there federal elections? We had nothing here...
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That's my confusion. The media is reporting it as if the magnetic poles have shifted! Hillary took Virginia in '16, and the special election was in a democrat heavy district and Gillespie was a moderate and went negative too late. Good guys finish last. He reminds me of John McCain. Mr. Establishment.

Not to mention, even Real Clear Politics has neglected to mention the parties of the prior office holders only saying "democrats won". Won what? A lateral? The media is so over the top with glee they are missing the data part of their job.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Anti-Trump backlash fuels a Democratic sweep in Virginia and elections across the country

This is such ****ing good news!!

Hopefully, the beginning to the end of Trumpism and the complicit GOP.
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You do know that Virginia is a blue state? Most of that States major cities are 70+ percent liberal. There is also a historical voting pattern for off year state elections were they lean towards the party that doesn’t control the white house. This could be anti-Trump, or it could be the factors above.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
I have only seen state level contests. Were there federal elections? We had nothing here...
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Alabama, a very red state, has a US Senate election in about a month (Dec. 12). This is for the senate seat vacated by Jeff Sessions (our lying, white supremacist US Attn'y General). Amazingly the Democratic candidate, Doug Jones, has a chance. This is mostly not because of Doug Jones, who is a somewhat moderate Democrat, but because of his opponent Roy Moore. You may have seen the clips of Roy Moore waving a pistol around at a campaign rally attended by Steve Bannon. Roy Moore is even more outrageous than Trump (hard to imagine, but true). He was kicked off his seat as a judge twice because he failed to enforce the law (gay marriage and some 10 commandments thing) and believes the 9/11 attack on the twin towers was God sending Christians a message.
 
RedFishBlueFish said:
Alabama, a very red state, has a US Senate election in about a month (Dec. 12). This is for the senate seat vacated by Jeff Sessions (our lying, white supremacist US Attn'y General). Amazingly the Democratic candidate, Doug Jones, has a chance. This is mostly not because of Doug Jones, who is a somewhat moderate Democrat, but because of his opponent Roy Moore. You may have seen the clips of Roy Moore waving a pistol around at a campaign rally attended by Steve Bannon. Roy Moore is even more outrageous than Trump (hard to imagine, but true). He was kicked off his seat as a judge twice because he failed to enforce the law (gay marriage and some 10 commandments thing) and believes the 9/11 attack on the twin towers was God sending Christians a message.
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I've actually been following Moore for a long time. He's always seemed like a grandstanding empty-suit who is only interested in politicizing his version of Christianity. I'm surprised how well that plays with the repub base in Alabama, but maybe I shouldn't be. In my opinion, if that guys wins he's the new title holder for craziest US Senator.
 
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