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USA. News reactions to latest mass shootings.

So what is so different or so special about the USA that these things tend to happen here more than any other first world nation on the planet?
 
haymarket said:
So what is so different or so special about the USA that these things tend to happen here more than any other first world nation on the planet?
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I don't think we are anything special in that regard...violence seems to be happening world-wide these days...
 
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Elvira said:
That is only about the US, not the whole world...as I said, it's happening all over the world...
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Where are your stats and data supporting your claim so we can compare it to the ones from the USA I already provided?

Allow me to get you started

https://phys.org/news/2015-08-percent-world-population-mass-shooters.html

US has five percent of world's population, but had 31 percent of its public mass shooters from 1966-2012
August 23, 2015
Despite having only about 5 percent of the world's population, the United States was the attack site for a disproportionate 31 percent of public mass shooters globally from 1966-2012, according to new research that will be presented at the 110th Annual Meeting of the American Sociological Association (ASA).

"The United States, Yemen, Switzerland, Finland, and Serbia are ranked as the Top 5 countries in firearms owned per capita, according to the 2007 Small Arms Survey, and my study found that all five are ranked in the Top 15 countries in public mass shooters per capita," said study author Adam Lankford, an associate professor of criminal justice at the University of Alabama. "That is not a coincidence."
Lankford's study, which examines the period from 1966-2012, relies on data from the New York City Police Department's 2012 active shooter report, the FBI's 2014 active shooter report, and multiple international sources. It is the first quantitative analysis of all reported public mass shootings around the world that resulted in the deaths of four or more people. By definition, these shootings do not include incidents that occurred solely in domestic settings or were primarily gang-related, drive-by shootings, hostage taking incidents, or robberies.
"My study provides empirical evidence, based on my quantitative assessment of 171 countries, that a nation's civilian firearm ownership rate is the strongest predictor of its number of public mass shooters," Lankford said. "Until now, everyone was simply speculating about the relationship between firearms and public mass shootings. My study provides empirical evidence of a positive association between the two."
As part of his study, Lankford explored how public mass shootings in the U.S. differed from those abroad. He found that public mass shooters in other countries were 3.6 times less likely to have used multiple weapons (typically multiple guns, but occasionally a gun plus another weapon or weapons) than those in the U.S., where more than half of shooters used at least two weapons.
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5% of the worlds population but 31% of mass shootings. So explain to me why we are so special.
 
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Tigerace117 said:
Because the idea that guns are anything more than tools is a myth. The idea that any sort of untrained rabble could prevent an actually oppressive American government---not the fantasies of what such government would be like, but an actual, real deal government which was set on oppressing people--- no matter how many deer rifles they had is a myth.

The gun is a holy relic in American society. We would rather have little kids gunned down by the dozen than make it even mildly harder to prevent such an incident from occurring again. That shows there is a culture issue at play here, and a serious problem.
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Some good points. A question:i f their had been a US level of gun ownership in 1930s Germany would that have prevented the Nazis rise to power? Answer: no of course not.
 
Jaygodmedia said:
Has it become the norm? This is so sad and has become out of control. And yes politics and race plays a major role of how these mass shootings are reported to the masses. :peace

OK thoughts and prayers goes out to the victims and their families.
Now Dems go to the left corner GOP head over to the right corner! Here are your talking points depending on the race of the shooter.
GOP you go 1st.
If black it's a gang banger thug who should not have a gun.
If Mexican it's a non legal immigrant who shouldn't be here in the 1st place (even if he or she was born here)
If Muslim it's an act of terror.
If white let's wait and figure this out let's understand what happen and why.
Dems your turn.
No matter the race of the shooter we need more gun control.
So sad we can't come together as Americans and stop this nonsense.
And the list just grows
http://timelines.latimes.com/deadliest-shooting-rampages/
And this is from today.
The gunman in a "mass shooting" at a Texas church on Sunday has been killed by police, Fox News has confirmed.

More on this: 'Mass shooting' reported at Sutherland Springs church in Texas | Fox News
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I don’t know about others, but I’m becoming numb to them and aggravated by the days of attention these mass shootings get. LV was a real, honest to God mass shooting. But eight people killed? Hell, twice that number happens in Chicago every other weekend. And those shootings get no coverage at all.
 
Sweden said:
Some good points. A question:i f their had been a US level of gun ownership in 1930s Germany would that have prevented the Nazis rise to power? Answer: no of course not.
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Nor would it have stopped the Allied Armies from successfully invading and destroying the Third Reich
 
Elvira said:
That is only about the US, not the whole world...as I said, it's happening all over the world...
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No! Mass shootings are NOT 'happening all over the world'. Read the second of Haymarket's links. The one by CNN.

The US is in a category all by itself, which should be a cause for shame not equivocation.
 
beefheart said:
If thoughts and prayers worked, there wouldn't be any more shootings.
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Obviously the concept of God's will eludes you. How do you know He didn't simply call these people home? Oh that's right, you're not even a believer. Your only purpose in this type of discussion is to bash your political opponents, and mock those who would dare not worship a Karl Marx bust. Which makes sense, since you have nothing substantive to offer.
 
Grieve, scream, swear, pray, write letters, email, call, whatever. None of it will matter. It will be the headline for a few days and then, with the exception of those related to the dead, we will go back to our lives. Actually, I will go back to my life in just a minute.
It has become normal for men, women and children to be gunned down without any consideration from our congress. Welcome to the new normal.
 
countryboy said:
Obviously the concept of God's will eludes you. How do you know He didn't simply call these people home? Oh that's right, you're not even a believer. Your only purpose in this type of discussion is to bash your political opponents, and mock those who would dare not worship a Karl Marx bust. Which makes sense, since you have nothing substantive to offer.
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...so is it your position God wanted those 20+ people in Texas to die today? The shooter was the agent of God?
 
Elvira said:
I am personally sick of the over-analyzing, as well as the blame game...people are dead...there is much hatred and evil in the world...:(
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The next logical thing to do is to figure out where the hate is coming from, and what might be possible to do about stemming it.
 
Elvira said:
I am personally sick of the over-analyzing, as well as the blame game...people are dead...there is much hatred and evil in the world...:(
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Frankly, I'm becoming numb to mass shootings here in the US, and that's a shame.
 
countryboy said:
I guess you didn't get the memo. "Thoughts and prayers are useless gestures, and quite offensive, according to your fellow liberals.
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Thoughts and prayers offered after a tragedy are certainly useless, self-serving gestures, but I don't think liberals are offended by them. Hell, liberals sometimes lead the charge.
 
Tigerace117 said:
There are issues at the very center of American culture which need to be addressed. However, from what I've seen personally as well as read about, the newer generations are less fixated on the American founding myths. Perhaps in thirty five years or so we'll see some actual movement.

You have a great day too.
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Studies have shown younger Americans are more pro-gun then older ones.
 
countryboy said:
Obviously the concept of God's will eludes you. How do you know He didn't simply call these people home? Oh that's right, you're not even a believer. Your only purpose in this type of discussion is to bash your political opponents, and mock those who would dare not worship a Karl Marx bust. Which makes sense, since you have nothing substantive to offer.
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The irony.
 
countryboy said:
Obviously the concept of God's will eludes you. How do you know He didn't simply call these people home?
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Oh, well that's a ****ing relief.
 
trblmkr said:
Grieve, scream, swear, pray, write letters, email, call, whatever. None of it will matter. It will be the headline for a few days and then, with the exception of those related to the dead, we will go back to our lives. Actually, I will go back to my life in just a minute.
It has become normal for men, women and children to be gunned down without any consideration from our congress. Welcome to the new normal.
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More like from big city mayor negligence, if you ask me.
 
trblmkr said:
Grieve, scream, swear, pray, write letters, email, call, whatever. None of it will matter. It will be the headline for a few days and then, with the exception of those related to the dead, we will go back to our lives. Actually, I will go back to my life in just a minute.
It has become normal for men, women and children to be gunned down without any consideration from our congress. Welcome to the new normal.
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We won't ban guns, or muslums, or whatever else is used to make these deaths a reality.
The U.S. has a deep cultural problem. There are so many unstable folks out there.
 
MaggieD said:
I don’t know about others, but I’m becoming numb to them and aggravated by the days of attention these mass shootings get. LV was a real, honest to God mass shooting. But eight people killed? Hell, twice that number happens in Chicago every other weekend. And those shootings get no coverage at all.
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Maggie - I like you - you know I do. But save the crap for once. Unless you are willing to volunteer to be the next person on the altar of the NRA , screw your being numb and your phone baloney invocation of what happens in Chicago.

Really - screw it because its only contributing to the NRA and their position.

And its killing people who are martyrs to the NRA extreme interpretation of the Second Amendment.
 
Cable said:
We won't ban guns, or muslums, or whatever else is used to make these deaths a reality.
The U.S. has a deep cultural problem. There are so many unstable folks out there.
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This killer was a muslim!?!?!?!?!?
 
haymarket said:
Maggie - I like you - you know I do. But save the crap for once. Unless you are willing to volunteer to be the next person on the altar of the NRA , screw your being numb and your phone baloney invocation of what happens in Chicago.

Really - screw it because its only contributing to the NRA and their position.

And its killing people who are martyrs to the NRA extreme interpretation of the Second Amendment.
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Uh, bro do you even English?
 
BitterPill said:
Thoughts and prayers offered after a tragedy are certainly useless, self-serving gestures, but I don't think liberals are offended by them. Hell, liberals sometimes lead the charge.
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I am deeply offended by the phony baloney deep regrets from NRA gun lobby supporters who willingly sacrifice another martyr so that their extremist interpretation of the Second Amendment can rule the day in Washington DC.

Screw their condolences and their tears and their sadness. Tomorrow they write a check to the NRA and go out and but more guns as their paranoia takes over.

And screw Donald Trump for his pain and grief and sympathy. He is damn useless.
 
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