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We will know soon what Russia has over small hands. [W:59]

This seems like some sort of irony here.

The guy just said he wants to force his political opponents to wear a scarlet letter. I can only surmise your defense of him means you're on board with that. Shocker. :roll:
 
What's the charge going to be? Is a new law going to be passed that they can be guilty of?
Are you actually joking , you can't lie to any of the letter groups , nor to congress but the easiest one would be obstruction of justice. Then for the fun of it we will jump over to attempting] to influence or obstruct a grand jury investigation by firing Comey. We will throw in conspiring with Foreign government to **** the election. What I think should happen is that he gets tried for being a scum sucking piece of ****. But I'll be satisfied with anything. As fast as these people who helped him get elected and lied through their teeth about everything under the sun.Come under scrutiny. The faster this will be over . Ones already talking , for a deal to keep his ass out of jail but the more they get in their sights, the more these slimy bastards will be making deals and out of that I would guess a minimum of a handful of charges on the scum bag. So that worries me little. He will be able to hold on even after being found guilty , going quickly to the supreme court. And he will try to get out of this in as many slimy ways as he can. but they would only Ok it with his hide. So no, He's toast.
 
The guy just said he wants to force his political opponents to wear a scarlet letter. I can only surmise your defense of him means you're on board with that. Shocker. :roll:
Well I'd be happy with a criminal sentence for selling out my country. I think a scarlet letter would do what I want done to these creepy sellout to this country. They can only be perceived one way and that is as a enemy of this country. Listen you scum bag voters no matter what happens , whether I get my scarlet letter pasted on your chest or not , You are marked anyway , This is not going to be forgotten. You elected a hate candidate because you were sold on the hate he preached. Why should this country forget that, You people have to be watched , so You don't try to sell this country and it's people out again.
 
I hope you're right. That being said, I wouldn't count on it. The country can't be shocked any more by the actions of politicians. The standard is so low on both sides, but especially the right, that it defies explanation. Trump is far too rich and far too powerful and far too important to the legacy of the GOP for conservatives to allow him to soil their name with a conviction. They will prefer to obstruct political actions and keep feeding underlings to the wolves until the country is satisfied that enough blood has been spilled.

This is America, J, judgement is a trickle up affair.
It won't go down that way, one is talking already and he has tons to say, he made a deal, they will be making deals one after the other, there will be so much against this piece of **** that They won't even have a recourse. There's many in the sights and as fast as they are approached, picket out , they will sell their piece of **** out. real quick. Mark my words.
 
I see 5 people now whose number has been called by the investigation. All of them are going down, one is talking already and a deal will be made with a couple of these other Russian sellout. And the Dominoes will fall very quickly from now on, The biggest gain will be the fact that the Hate group that use to be called the Republican party will be going down with Small hands. My hope is that we can force the people who voted in this mental case to have to wear a scarlet letter S for selling out their country, They need to be watched closely, so they don't align themselves with our enemies against this country again.
The retiring Hate party members are stacking up and that number is getting very impressive for the future of this country. It looks good today and It will look better from this day forward.
:lamo

Your posts read like Donald Trump hacked your DP account.
 
Here are some possible crimes that have been committed.

Campaign finance laws – Basically soliciting a thing of value from a foreign national to affect an election. (52 USC 30121 and/or 36 USC 510)

Klein Conspiracy – A Klein conspiracy exists when one conspiracies to “impair or impede” the lawful functions of the federal government. In this case the lawful function of government would be the administration of fair elections which were impaired by actions taken by Russia in collusion with the Trump Campaign. (18 USC Section 371)

Obstruction of Justice - This rule basically says that whoever corruptly or by threats of force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct or impede, the due administration of justice shall be guilty of an offense. (18 USC 1503)

There is no crime for "collusion" as such. This is a term of convenience or perhaps one that was used early on and just stuck. I think in general when people say collusion it really means one of the above first two listed crimes have been committed. It's like saying "cahoots". But if you can establish that the Trump Campaign was in cahoots with the Russians or colluded with the Russians in the interference or meddling of our election by the Russians, then you can probably find a criminal code that applies. We do have laws that protect our democratic process.

In the case of Trump's campaign, the two most probable events that were criminal - that we know of - were (with the exception of Obstruction of Justice, which also is a crime) the Genius Junior meeting with the Russians (the "I Love It!" meeting) and the Papadopulos activities.

If proven, the Genius Junior meeting will probably fall into the category of campaign finance laws, since the dirt was a thing of value and that dirt was used to influence the election (the release of Hillary's emails). Since we don't know all the facts, it could perhaps be a Klein Conspiracy. We don't know.

The Papadopulos deal could also be a "thing of value" election crime, or perhaps it is a conspiracy to violate the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.

It appears to me that Roger Stone and Peter Smith might have conducted a Klein Conspiracy as they seemed to want to help the Russians distribute the stolen emails. How much Trump knew about this is unknown.

Of course Mueller is also looking at Obstruction of Justice. Many think he need look no further than the James Comey firing. If he brings this charge, however, I suspect it will be a lot more complex than just the James Comey firing, as Trump has done a number of things that will collectively help build a case for Obstruction of Justice.
The haters online here don't want to hear that. But your list is pretty accurate. Scum bag has lots in his arsenal to try to bail himself and the others out. Even with those options there are tools in place to resolve them. He won't be walking away from this back to the presidency. The crimes go right down the ladder , including the vice president. This is a joy to me. It keeps a smile on my face for the whole day. The part I like the most is that I believe he will take the hate party down with him , that my friend is the ultimate justice.
 
:lamo

Your posts read like Donald Trump hacked your DP account.
You just can't imagine the smile on my face listening to you poor slobs not even arguing the point just calling me dumb and telling me you don't like me. Think about this , I think you people are way down on the human chain, so tell me why I would care about what you think of me. Just for a point of interest.
 
You just can't imagine the smile on my face listening to you poor slobs not even arguing the point just calling me dumb and telling me you don't like me. Think about this , I think you people are way down on the human chain, so tell me why I would care about what you think of me. Just for a point of interest.
No...I actually see you as having a pained hate-filled angry face...just like Trump.

and if we are being honest..I think its funny as hell.
 
The guy just said he wants to force his political opponents to wear a scarlet letter. I can only surmise your defense of him means you're on board with that. Shocker. :roll:
You mean the bigots and chauvinists, the KKK the Nazi party and the white supremacists that for the first time in history came out in support of a sitting president. Or the micro minds that where sold on the hate that spewed from the mouth of scum Bag that got him elected. That is no political opponent , that's the enemy of this country. And I want them marked to protect this country from them in the future, seems reasonable to me but like I said whether I get my way or not , this country won't forget who put this piece of **** in office.
 
No...I actually see you as having a pained hate-filled angry face...just like Trump.

and if we are being honest..I think its funny as hell.
Well good for you.
 
What's the charge going to be? Is a new law going to be passed that they can be guilty of?

Since when has the left needed reasons or laws or due process to arbitrarily jail people they don't like? Just take a look at history.

The leftists have a well established a track record for that sort of thing.
 
Since when has the left needed reasons or laws or due process to arbitrarily jail people they don't like? Just take a look at history.

The leftists have a well established a track record for that sort of thing.
Much like we cant talk about things they dont like..."THAT'S OUT OF BOUNDS! THAT'S DISGUSTING! YOU MUST BE ILL! "DOCTOR!""
 
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Much like we cant talk about things they dont like..."THAT'S OUT OF BOUNDS! THAT'S DISGUSTING!"

Seems that if you had a reasoned, reasonable discussion sans any emotional component, clinical, it would seem that almost any topic could be discussed, but then, those that 'feel' their politics, for example, couldn't really manage that, I suppose, which your post it alluding to, I suspect.
 
Fooled millions into voting for him? Yes I can see that being true, though you seem to be forgetting that is the exact same thing candidates do every election cycle. Only now that he is being up from with that fact, now you seem to have a problem with it?

Bill conned America, as well as Bush, Obama, and most certainly as Hillary tried to con us.

It seems everyone is simply upset over the fact that Trump was better at it then they were.

Trump more so than any other candidate sold people on his personal abilities, his ability to negotiate, his intelligence etc. The vast majority of candidates don't sell themselves, they sell policies and ideas. Trump is an egomaniac and ran on the idea that he would clean up the swamp and bring jobs back without every giving any clear plan on how he was going to do anything. He claimed to be worth more than he was and hid the extent of his debt and business problems.

So, yes, Trump conned people more so than most politicians. He's president now and we see he is totally unqualified. His own Secretary of State has called him an imbecile (not moron, so he was able to deny calling him a moron). Trump isn't even able to handle the basic functions of the job like giving speeches to Boy Scouts or comforting huricane victims.

If you're honest with yourself you know I'm just speaking the truth. I'm using his own words. He creates an image of bravado and exaggerates. His business is branding like Trump University. You pay for Trump University because you are conned into believing he's a great businessman who will teach you how to be rich. But it's all smoke and mirrors.

Now this conman is caught up in a huge web of lies. Why can't you just admit the obvious? He's a conman. He's crooked to the bone. He's lying.
 
Seems that if you had a reasoned, reasonable discussion sans any emotional component, clinical, it would seem that almost any topic could be discussed, but then, those that 'feel' their politics, for example, couldn't really manage that, I suppose, which your post it alluding to, I suspect.

I dont know which post you mean but Victim Culture not only argues that emotion come first it demands that emotion comes first, because those who use their brains would be smart enough to never be enslaved by it, brain usage must thus be discouraged.

FEAR UP!
 
Trump more so than any other candidate sold people on his personal abilities, his ability to negotiate, his intelligence etc. The vast majority of candidates don't sell themselves, they sell policies and ideas. Trump is an egomaniac and ran on the idea that he would clean up the swamp and bring jobs back without every giving any clear plan on how he was going to do anything. He claimed to be worth more than he was and hid the extent of his debt and business problems.

So, yes, Trump conned people more so than most politicians. He's president now and we see he is totally unqualified. His own Secretary of State has called him an imbecile (not moron, so he was able to deny calling him a moron). Trump isn't even able to handle the basic functions of the job like giving speeches to Boy Scouts or comforting huricane victims.

If you're honest with yourself you know I'm just speaking the truth. I'm using his own words. He creates an image of bravado and exaggerates. His business is branding like Trump University. You pay for Trump University because you are conned into believing he's a great businessman who will teach you how to be rich. But it's all smoke and mirrors.

Now this conman is caught up in a huge web of lies. Why can't you just admit the obvious? He's a conman. He's crooked to the bone. He's lying.

Trump sold attitude....come on, evil "Little Marco" figured this out by the time he had been beaten to a pulp trying to be the tan JFK. .
 
They don't need baseless trash to get rid of your scum bag, the facts will do just fine. Your looking on the Bright side you say, as in electing a deranged mentally ill piece of **** as president and putting him next to the little red button that once pushed ends mankind . You will be the laughing stock of the world very soon. As The Scum Bag people go down one at a time and the pace quickens when they start making deals with the prosecutors. You Godless hero and God will go down and this clown act will be over with but trust me you will be remembered . You people are the biggest threat this country has and a clear enemy of all things that is good in this country, You will get what you deserve and I will be one of the people you will be getting it from.

You are a hate filled, bile bloated little fool, and this whole rant is one of the very reasons why you, and all liberals like you. Are going to lose in the end.

No matter what happens.
Be it Trump winning, or losing through this investigation. Or anything else that follows through the rest of his presidency.

Nothing you said in that entire spew of filth, was either factual or even sensible.

This entire thread now needs a new wash of bleach to get your taint off of it.

I award you no points, and may the gods have mercy on your soul.
 
Trump more so than any other candidate sold people on his personal abilities, his ability to negotiate, his intelligence etc. The vast majority of candidates don't sell themselves, they sell policies and ideas. Trump is an egomaniac and ran on the idea that he would clean up the swamp and bring jobs back without every giving any clear plan on how he was going to do anything. He claimed to be worth more than he was and hid the extent of his debt and business problems.

So, yes, Trump conned people more so than most politicians. He's president now and we see he is totally unqualified. His own Secretary of State has called him an imbecile (not moron, so he was able to deny calling him a moron). Trump isn't even able to handle the basic functions of the job like giving speeches to Boy Scouts or comforting huricane victims.

If you're honest with yourself you know I'm just speaking the truth. I'm using his own words. He creates an image of bravado and exaggerates. His business is branding like Trump University. You pay for Trump University because you are conned into believing he's a great businessman who will teach you how to be rich. But it's all smoke and mirrors.

Now this conman is caught up in a huge web of lies. Why can't you just admit the obvious? He's a conman. He's crooked to the bone. He's lying.

I am willing to admit that, I haven't even had to deny it because its never been directly asked. However I would be more please to see people admit he isn't doing as bad that people think he is.

But instead they just pretend its all bad, despite what is being shown across the net.

We can be honest with one thing though, he didn't win the election by himself. Hillary gave him all the help he needed by doing everything she did. Even being as corrupt as she was, she still had experience in a political career. But sidled with how corrupt she was, even compared to Trump it was still more slanted in his favor.
 
Trump sold attitude....

So, did you really belief Trump's image?

I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do.

Did he play into your fantasies? Did you believe his big talk about draining the swamp and replacing Obamacare with something better?

Can you still think he's a competent leader considering all the clowns he hired? He hired Manafort. Did you believe he only hires the best people? Do you still believe that?

Do you still believe he tells the truth?
 
But instead they just pretend its all bad, despite what is being shown across the net.

No, it's not all bad. I'm a software engineer. I've long complained about the H1B visa abuse. He may do something about it. I don't know. These people love adding loopholes.

And it looks like he may actually raise taxes on the rich. But I doubt that will pass. And I'm pretty sure they're going to do everything to cut the estate tax.

Simplifying taxes, I like. But giving away money to the rich who are the only ones who have really done well is BS. If you owned a business and you got a huge tax break I doubt you would hand out raises like Santa Clause. You pay employees what the market will bear. It's supply and demand. Expensive talent will get higher wages. Those at the bottom are expendable.

But Trump is so awful at the basic functions of the job that it's hard to give him credit for anything.
 
So, did you really belief Trump's image?



Did he play into your fantasies? Did you believe his big talk about draining the swamp and replacing Obamacare with something better?

Can you still think he's a competent leader considering all the clowns he hired? He hired Manafort. Did you believe he only hires the best people? Do you still believe that?

Do you still believe he tells the truth?

Too many questions but get a load of my sig!
 
No, it's not all bad. I'm a software engineer. I've long complained about the H1B visa abuse. He may do something about it. I don't know. These people love adding loopholes.

And it looks like he may actually raise taxes on the rich. But I doubt that will pass. And I'm pretty sure they're going to do everything to cut the estate tax.

Simplifying taxes, I like. But giving away money to the rich who are the only ones who have really done well is BS. If you owned a business and you got a huge tax break I doubt you would hand out raises like Santa Clause. You pay employees what the market will bear. It's supply and demand. Expensive talent will get higher wages. Those at the bottom are expendable.

But Trump is so awful at the basic functions of the job that it's hard to give him credit for anything.

He has no experience in the position, which besides being a businessman, and running such a large entity does not necessarily translate over seamlessly. I do have hope that the rest of the administration can get this straight.

I'm working in the medical field, and I see more then enough people abuse the system here. I was hoping that the ACA would settle, but now that I see its going to keep getting worse, I was happy to see that something was going to get done.

Well, that was until the motion was blocked by the other sycophants of the floor.

Texas, and Tennessee have it worse then we do here in Alabama, and when I see so many people use the emergency room as their primary care unit. I think its going to be hell for us here, for the next year or so.

I downloaded the tax reform, 400+ pages and I have yet to get a chance to read all the way through. Not bad for the most part, though I am hoping the housing market doesn't bottom out due to the mortgage rework.
 
The guy just said he wants to force his political opponents to wear a scarlet letter. I can only surmise your defense of him means you're on board with that. Shocker. :roll:
That's all you able to conclude, huh?
Too bad for you, I guess.
Better luck some other time.

fwiw, I offered not defense for his assertions.
 
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