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Liberalized business goes belly up

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Profits exist for a reason. It didn't take long for folks to figure out that breaking even, or losing money doesn't work.

In the Roxbury neighborhood of Boston back in 2015, the people at the nonprofit organization Haley House came up with a novel idea. They would open a pizza shop based on the principles of economic justice and fair wages to support the community. Named Dudley Dough, the shop would pay wages far above the minimum which many people in that industry earn, with added incentives for training and community development. It was an inspiring idea.

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/10/25/progressive-fair-wage-pizza-shop-closing-doors/
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This really isn't a problem. If you want to pay your people $30/hr then all you have to do is sell your pizzas for $60.
 
Lutherf said:
This really isn't a problem. If you want to pay your people $30/hr then all you have to do is sell your pizzas for $60.
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there is one place in NY that sells a 1000 dollar pizza.
it is possible if you have the clients to support it.

that is the key thing if you are going to sell a 60 dollar pizza
it better be worth 60 bucks.

(no pizza is worth that much).
 
ludin said:
there is one place in NY that sells a 1000 dollar pizza.
it is possible if you have the clients to support it.

that is the key thing if you are going to sell a 60 dollar pizza
it better be worth 60 bucks.

(no pizza is worth that much).
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You've got it all wrong. If your customers know that you are doing this for an inspirational and socially relevant cause they'll willingly pay $60 and more for a tofu and kale pizza on quinoa crust.
 
Lutherf said:
You've got it all wrong. If your customers know that you are doing this for an inspirational and socially relevant cause they'll willingly pay $60 and more for a tofu and kale pizza on quinoa crust.
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They also say a fool and their money is soon parted.
 
ludin said:
there is one place in NY that sells a 1000 dollar pizza.
it is possible if you have the clients to support it.

that is the key thing if you are going to sell a 60 dollar pizza
it better be worth 60 bucks.

(no pizza is worth that much).
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It helps is you are in a really high rent district. I remember walking out of Penn Station thinking I could find a cheaper place to eat than inside. What I found out was that even the McDonalds there charged almost double what I was used to.

To go where the money is, you need money. That's pretty simple. If the high rents relative to wages drive away the workers, things will collapse, so the system tends toward a sort of equilibrium.
 
Lutherf said:
You've got it all wrong. If your customers know that you are doing this for an inspirational and socially relevant cause they'll willingly pay $60 and more for a tofu and kale pizza on quinoa crust.
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Some might, but I sure don't see myself being one of them! Yuck! :no: :lamo
 
apdst said:
Profits exist for a reason. It didn't take long for folks to figure out that breaking even, or losing money doesn't work.
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I thought they had schools in Boston even in Roxbury.
 
Perhaps the pizza wasn't good. Most of the time bad food will do a restaurant in. I wonder why that hasn't happened to Pizza Hut.
 
and fair wages to support the community.
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Funny how Conservatives are so quick to label anything that benefits a community or workers as 'liberal'.

Really says a lot about modern Conservatives, doesn't it?
 
Too bad the shop didn't make it. Doesn't have much to do with "liberal" or "conservative" though. Many restaurants fail within a few years of opening, and most of those pay their staff minimum wage.
 
polgara said:
Some might, but I sure don't see myself being one of them! Yuck! :no: :lamo
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Hear, hear! I always buy the cheapest pizza. It might not be the best, but its still pizza. :mrgreen:
 
Lutherf said:
C’mon, Pol, it’s all for the sake of humanity.
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Okay, you win! I have one stipulation, though. I want to see them pretend to actually enjoy eating that pizza! :lamo
 
Lutherf said:
This really isn't a problem. If you want to pay your people $30/hr then all you have to do is sell your pizzas for $60.
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And make the pizzas healthy, then give them away when people are unwilling to pay the $60.
 
9/10ths of restaurants fail, or thereabouts. So there's also that.
 
ludin said:
there is one place in NY that sells a 1000 dollar pizza.
it is possible if you have the clients to support it.

that is the key thing if you are going to sell a 60 dollar pizza
it better be worth 60 bucks.

In this case, my gut instinct is that the charity opened the place thinking it would rain donations and grants down on them and when it didn't, they were not willing to put any of the parent charity money into running the day to day operations of the pizza place. I don't see how this could have been seen as anything other than a publicity stunt to begin with.
(no pizza is worth that much).
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That $1,000 pizza is like a few a week sales volume and is full of stuff like rare meat shavings, caviar and gold flakes and comes with a bottle of champagn IIRC. It is a novelty, not what keeps the doors open.
 
backpacker said:
That $1,000 pizza is like a few a week sales volume and is full of stuff like rare meat shavings, caviar and gold flakes and comes with a bottle of champagn IIRC. It is a novelty, not what keeps the doors open.
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i never said otherwise but way to miss the point entirely.
 
ludin said:
i never said otherwise but way to miss the point entirely.
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I notice you edited out the part afterward that specifically addresses the issue you raised about selling pizza worth the price. The $1,000 pizza is worth the price to those who buy them or else they wouldn't buy them.
 
This story got me thinking. We actually have a Communist coffee shop here in Tucson - Revolutionary Grounds :: Home

The weird thing is that they operate on totally Capitalist principles.
 
Maybe that is why they failed or maybe it was just the restaurant business is hard. After all, the majority of new pizza places opened by capitalists go belly up too.
 
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