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BitterPill

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The number of adults without health insurance has increased 1.4 percentage points since the end of 2016, partially reversing the gains in health coverage seen since the implementation of Obamacare.

The nation's uninsured rate — which fell to a record low of 10.9 percent in the last half of 2016, is now 12.3 percent, according to a Gallup-Sharecare Well-Being Index survey released Friday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/19/num...nsurance-up-since-trump-became-president.html

We won't truly be great again until Medicare is gone.
 
Many people cannot come to terms with the illegalities, overreaches, and phony funding schemes.

There is going to have to be a bipartisan solution reaching beyond preserving Obama’s “fast and loose” ACA.

All the wrangling will eventually produce a plan the middle class can live with. I say middle class because those who are subsidized are funded by those who aren’t. And that is damned costly to the middle class in terms of premiums, co pays, and out of pocket before benefits cut in.

I believe we will get there eventually.
 
Many people cannot come to terms with the illegalities, overreaches, and phony funding schemes.

There is going to have to be a bipartisan solution reaching beyond preserving Obama’s “fast and loose” ACA.

All the wrangling will eventually produce a plan the middle class can live with. I say middle class because those who are subsidized are funded by those who aren’t. And that is damned costly to the middle class in terms of premiums, co pays, and out of pocket before benefits cut in.

I believe we will get there eventually.

Why support old people who don't work with Medicare? That is a subsidy for sure. We need to get those leeches off the rolls, especially if they're poor.
 
Why support old people who don't work with Medicare? That is a subsidy for sure. We need to get those leeches off the rolls, especially if they're poor.

We boomers absolutely should get our old age bennies cut, because of our poor performance. Not only did we never come up with a way to pay for our retirements even though we were told starting early eighties that we needed to, not only did we allow the medical system to become super expensive and not very good which drives up the cost of old age dramatically, not only have we practiced generational warfare buy borrowing money that we never intended to pay back passing the debt on the the kids and unborn by design, but we were also on the whole crap parents as well.
 
We boomers absolutely should get our old age bennies cut, because of our poor performance. Not only did we never come up with a way to pay for our retirements, not only did we allow the medical system to become super expensive and not very good which drive up the cost of old age dramatically, not only have we practiced generational warfare buy borrowing money that we never intended to pay back passing the debt on the the kids and unborn by design, but we were on the whole crap parents as well.

I figured you'd be for bumping the poor (rude and smelly) from Medicare, but even the rich?

After Medicare is done in, except for the sweet-smelling and respectful rich of course, it will be time to dismantle the VA. We can send the money saved as block-grants to the ridiculously sweet-smelling and well behaved wealthy so they can create jobs.
 
Many people cannot come to terms with the illegalities, overreaches, and phony funding schemes.
There is going to have to be a bipartisan solution reaching beyond preserving Obama’s “fast and loose” ACA.
All the wrangling will eventually produce a plan the middle class can live with. I say middle class because those who are subsidized are funded by those who aren’t. And that is damned costly to the middle class in terms of premiums, co pays, and out of pocket before benefits cut in.
I believe we will get there eventually.

We pay more per capita than any nation on earth for healthcare, by a dramatic margin, and we still have 10's of millions uninsured and many 10's of millions more with barely-insurance with high deductibles. Major reforms to our healthcare system would pay for themselves, improvements do not have to come from more taxes as every other system in the world is cheaper and we're nowhere near the top in healthcare outcomes or life expectancy. As a reference, in Germany I pay about 300 euro a month for full coverage including dental with no deductibles. I just show my card and any procedure or care the physician of my choice recommends I get. We can do better if we have the desire to improve.
 
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The number of adults without health insurance has increased 1.4 percentage points since the end of 2016, partially reversing the gains in health coverage seen since the implementation of Obamacare.

The nation's uninsured rate — which fell to a record low of 10.9 percent in the last half of 2016, is now 12.3 percent, according to a Gallup-Sharecare Well-Being Index survey released Friday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/19/num...nsurance-up-since-trump-became-president.html

We won't truly be great again until Medicare is gone.

But, they have the freedom to go bankrupt with hospital bills they cannot pay AND the freedom to indirectly force people who do buy insurance to pay those bills.



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For others: because, DERP, what happens when people skip hospital bills is that hospitals negotiate higher fees with insurers the next time around, and insurers raise premiums on people who pay for insurance.

Utter ****wits will celebrate "teh freedoms" without realizing they are demanding the freedom to screw someone else over. If they actually invoked their right, as an adult, to refuse medical treatment that might even save their lives in the event they cannot pay, I'd listen.

Otherwise.....well.....they sound rather like liars with delusions of grandeur.
 
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The number of adults without health insurance has increased 1.4 percentage points since the end of 2016, partially reversing the gains in health coverage seen since the implementation of Obamacare.

The nation's uninsured rate — which fell to a record low of 10.9 percent in the last half of 2016, is now 12.3 percent, according to a Gallup-Sharecare Well-Being Index survey released Friday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/19/num...nsurance-up-since-trump-became-president.html

We won't truly be great again until Medicare is gone.

We are still as a nation great. Only a dunce would believe otherwise. It’s live „yes we can“ a silly feel good sentence that nobody in a right mid would fall for.
 
We are still as a nation great. Only a dunce would believe otherwise. It’s live „yes we can“ a silly feel good sentence that nobody in a right mid would fall for.

MAGA, baby, MAGA!
 
We won't truly be great again until Medicare is gone.

It's far more likely that Boomers will conspire to deny Medicare to everyone that comes after them than it is that Gen Xers and Millennials will take it from Boomers.

In fact I believe that's the official Boomer position: "sure, do whatever you want to it, just make sure I'm grandfathered in."
 
I figured you'd be for bumping the poor (rude and smelly) from Medicare, but even the rich?

After Medicare is done in, except for the sweet-smelling and respectful rich of course, it will be time to dismantle the VA. We can send the money saved as block-grants to the ridiculously sweet-smelling and well behaved wealthy so they can create jobs.


I think we can all agree that those that voted for Trump are the ones we need to get off Medicare
 
I think we can all agree that those that voted for Trump are the ones we need to get off Medicare

That is a vexing problem since most Trump voters seem to need serious mental-health care.

Perhaps we can afford them free mental-health care, but the rest of us are out of luck!
 
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