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Kelly Confirms Trump Lied

Fletch said:
He said he didn't say what she said he said.
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Rep. Frederica Wilson told CNN Tuesday evening that Trump told the widow that her husband "knew what he signed up for, but I guess it still hurt."
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Cowanda Jones-Johnson, a family member who raised Johnson, told CNN Wednesday that Wilson's account of the call between Trump and Johnson's widow, Myeshia, was "very accurate."
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"He was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed. He knew what he was getting into by joining that 1%. He knew what the possibilities were because we were at war," Kelly said, channeling Dunford's words to him upon the death of Kelly's son. "And when he died he was surrounded by the best men on this earth, his friends. That's what the President tried to say to the four families the other day."
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Trump's tweet:
Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof). Sad!
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It all jives quite coherently but Trump's tweet is totally inconsistent with everything that has been said. He lied.
 
Verax said:
Trump's tweet:


It all jives quite coherently but Trump's tweet is totally inconsistent with everything that has been said. He lied.
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You left out the second part of the congress womans quote for some reason. Why is that?
 
beefheart said:
Trumpanzies are so deep in their cult that no amount of facts or reason will sway them. That is why they must be ridiculed with great force.
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What 'facts or reason' am I missing? Nothing in Verax's quote you responded to is accurate.
 
Fletch said:
You left out the second part of the congress womans quote for some reason. Why is that?
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I did not leave it out, I bolded the relevant sections. What has been the focal point of discussion was "he knew what he signed up for".

Without a transcript we don't know the verbatim passage but what is quite clear is Trump said something very similar to what it was reported that he said. Trump tweeted that she "totally fabricated" what he said. That is simply not the case.
 
Gen. Kelly blasted Wilson, and essentially Sgt. Johnson's mother, for being a part of the call that the widow put on speaker. He deemed the call "sacred" in order to deflect the fact that the family was appalled by his tone and instead made it all about him and how he dealt with the very tragic death of his own son. It wasn't about him, 45, or his feelings about the message, but those of the family. He has yet to reflect on why he showed his disgust when 45 called neo-Nazis "very fine people" or why he hid his face when 45 called out "Rocket Man" at the UN. Talk about an empty barrel, including Kelly. I was stunned at his behavior.

We're still waiting for 45 to issue the statement that Defense crafted 15 days ago.
 
Verax said:
Trump said he didn't say that though...
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To be fair, Trump is a moron so you have to interpret what he means. He probably meant he didn't say it with the same callousness that the congresswoman heard.

It's really a simple misunderstanding. "He knew what he signed up for" depending on how you interpret it. You can interpret it to mean that he bravely signed up knowing this could happen. Or you could interpret it dismissively. I believe Trump was trying to console but he's awful at it as we know.

Trump could have simply clarified and maybe called her back instead of turning this into an argument at a funeral. Both Trump and the congresswoman could have handled it better. But only Trump is the president and leader of the country.
 
Verax said:
Trump said he didn't say that though...
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But Kelly said he told him to say that. See what happens when you tell a lie, then another lie to cover that lie up , and then finally you just get so caught up in lies you can't remember the truth.
 
Kelly never denied what 45 said. So much for proof.
 
Never in Modern Times have Two Former Presidents so thoroughly taken the trump apocalyptic catastrophe to task.

May our Creator continue to Guide Chief of Staff Kelly and what Few Sane Adults have trump's ear ...
 
At this point we can just hope Trump Derangement Syndrome gets covered if congress ever swings back around to healthcare.

"the “liberal left is more willing to believe anything about Donald Trump.”

He added, “The left is ready to believe if I said ‘I saw Donald Trump have a tail and horns’ people would be like, ‘I knew it!'”

Lemon responded that he likes “to call it Trump Derangement Syndrome,”



God bless them all in these trying times.
 
Fenton said:
Unravelling best describes the Democrats these days.
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Of course.:roll:

From the Weinstein scandal exposing Hollywood as a bunch of hypocrites and enablers, to the NYTs burrying a story back in 2004 about Weinstein, to NBCs attempt to bury a story about Weisntein to falling NFL ratings and attendance
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Whats so remarkable about this quote is that it demonstrates how obsessed conservatives are with culture wars to the extent they believe the NFL is somehow connected to the DNC; I hate football and I couldn't care less about it.. It's also interesting how you ignore the plethora of sex scandals that came out of FOX over the past year: Ailes, O'Reilly, Payne, Shine, Bolling, etc. But hey, it's only a story when it involves liberals, right? The good news is that FOX and right-wing radio have their rating plummeting into the gutter, and Trumps approval rating is at historical lows.. You might want to check the pulse of your own camp before getting cocky, mmmkay?

to the latest story on Uranium one and 145 million dollars in donations to the Clinton foundation to someone in the Obama administration using Susan Powers name to make over 250 unmasking request in 2106, the Democrats are really having a tough month
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1)The donations were made years after the stakeholder had sold his shares in Uranium One, so it wasn't any sort of bribe. Sorry to **** on your picnic, but that is what you guys would term... a nothing burger.

2)The pay for play by the Trump gang is explicit and extensive.

Paul Manafort ties to Russian wealth Oleg Deripaska - Business Insider
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/politics/michael-flynn-turkey.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/us/politics/michael-flynn-russia-paid-trip.html
Jared Kushner's White House connection still being used to lure Chinese investors - CNNPolitics
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-to-ukraine-explained/?utm_term=.f006c2c75390
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...b4e4bb76a3a_story.html?utm_term=.9970458254a1


The party is a mess. Al Franken in the Sessions hearing did a good job of showing just how screwed up the Democratic party has become since the election
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:lamo

Sessions sounded like an Alzheimer patient with his " I do not recall" every other answer. They way he refused to answer any questions about whether the president asked him to obstruct the Russia investigation, thus invoking executive privilege that, had echos of Watergate.

Seriously, everything that comes out of your mouth is just Brietbart talking points and foolishness.
 
akyron said:
At this point we can just hope Trump Derangement Syndrome gets covered if congress ever swings back around to healthcare.

"the “liberal left is more willing to believe anything about Donald Trump.”

He added, “The left is ready to believe if I said ‘I saw Donald Trump have a tail and horns’ people would be like, ‘I knew it!'”

Lemon responded that he likes “to call it Trump Derangement Syndrome,”



God bless them all in these trying times.
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Nah, they'll be too busy trying to get insurance providers to cover gay conversion therapy.

:spank:
 
NIMBY said:
Never in Modern Times have Two Former Presidents so thoroughly taken the trump apocalyptic catastrophe to task.

May our Creator continue to Guide Chief of Staff Kelly and what Few Sane Adults have trump's ear ...
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Good old GWB who presided over the USA’s most massive economic collapse, teaming up with Obama who seems to be implicated in the pay for play sale of American uranium reserves to Russia.

I’d say they are both up to their necks in it. Oh, BTW, did I mention Mueller was head of the FBI when this Clinton Foundation & Clinton, Inc. malfeasance took place?

And you are worrying about trump?
 
MovingPictures said:
Of course.:roll:


Whats so remarkable about this quote is that it demonstrates how obsessed conservatives are with culture wars to the extent they believe the NFL is somehow connected to the DNC; I hate football and I couldn't care less about it.. It's also interesting how you ignore the plethora of sex scandals that came out of FOX over the past year: Ailes, O'Reilly, Payne, Shine, Bolling, etc. But hey, it's only a story when it involves liberals, right? The good news is that FOX and right-wing radio have their rating plummeting into the gutter, and Trumps approval rating is at historical lows.. You might want to check the pulse of your own camp before getting cocky, mmmkay?


1)The donations were made years after the stakeholder had sold his shares in Uranium One, so it wasn't any sort of bribe. Sorry to **** on your picnic, but that is what you guys would term... a nothing burger.

2)The pay for play by the Trump gang is explicit and extensive.

Paul Manafort ties to Russian wealth Oleg Deripaska - Business Insider
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/politics/michael-flynn-turkey.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/us/politics/michael-flynn-russia-paid-trip.html
Jared Kushner's White House connection still being used to lure Chinese investors - CNNPolitics
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-to-ukraine-explained/?utm_term=.f006c2c75390
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...b4e4bb76a3a_story.html?utm_term=.9970458254a1



:lamo

Sessions sounded like an Alzheimer patient with his " I do not recall" every other answer. They way he refused to answer any questions about whether the president asked him to obstruct the Russia investigation, thus invoking executive privilege that, had echos of Watergate.

Seriously, everything that comes out of your mouth is just Brietbart talking points and foolishness.
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Actually, the donations were made from both Uranium One and Rosatom to the Clinton foundation before, during and after the deal

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill....-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration?amp

Sounds suspicious to me. Bill Clinton met with Putin personally when he went to Russia to give his 500k speech. You think those two talked about their grandchildren ?
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill....s-permission-to-meet-with-russian-nuclear?amp

And the Senate Judiciary conitee has opened up a probe into this Uranium one deal....
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill....be-into-obama-era-russian-nuclear-bribery?amp

But sure, its a big nothing burger and the Russian collusion tin hattery is the real scandal...:lamo
 
Fenton said:
Actually, the donations were made from both Uranium One and Rosatom to the Clinton foundation before, during and after the deal

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill....-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration?amp

Sounds suspicious to me. Bill Clinton met with Putin personally when he went to Russia to give his 500k speech. You think those two talked about their grandchildren ?
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill....s-permission-to-meet-with-russian-nuclear?amp

And the Senate Judiciary conitee has opened up a probe into this Uranium one deal....
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill....be-into-obama-era-russian-nuclear-bribery?amp

But sure, its a big nothing burger and the Russian collusion tin hattery is the real scandal...:lamo
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Oh wow! The republicans are opening ANOTHER partisan Clinton probe, what a surprise! Ever notice how republicans get to investigate democrat scandals, but democrats never get to investigate republican scandals?
 
calamity said:
Why did Trump lie? Stick to the subject: Trump lied.
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Ugh, why can't Trump just admit to something and learn from it instead of straight up lying about it. He could have easily said the phone call was hard and maybe things didn't come out how he meant them to and apologize but instead he has to go on defense and completely deny everything. You really can't believe anything this man says.
 
americanwoman said:
Ugh, why can't Trump just admit to something and learn from it instead of straight up lying about it. He could have easily said the phone call was hard and maybe things didn't come out how he meant them to and apologize but instead he has to go on defense and completely deny everything. You really can't believe anything this man says.
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Because that is something that a normal, well adjusted person would do.
 
Parrish said:
Gen. Kelly blasted Wilson, and essentially Sgt. Johnson's mother, for being a part of the call that the widow put on speaker. He deemed the call "sacred" in order to deflect the fact that the family was appalled by his tone and instead made it all about him and how he dealt with the very tragic death of his own son. It wasn't about him, 45, or his feelings about the message, but those of the family. He has yet to reflect on why he showed his disgust when 45 called neo-Nazis "very fine people" or why he hid his face when 45 called out "Rocket Man" at the UN. Talk about an empty barrel, including Kelly. I was stunned at his behavior.

We're still waiting for 45 to issue the statement that Defense crafted 15 days ago.
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Kelly screwed the pooch badly in his press meeting.

Trump had thought he could end his muckup once and for all by sending Kelly out to speak and lecture the media and the American people on giving Trump a break. If Kelly is going to be Trump's errand boy then Kelly can go back to trying to be a civilian outside the WH because he's doing a lousy job of being a civilian inside it.

As of this post the WH has yet to retract the press speaker's assertion that it is "inappropriate" to question a "four star Marine general" which is what Kelly retired from being. I would expect Kelly to be working inside the WH to correct this militarization of the government rather than accede to it. Frankly speaking I don't know of any single person who could act as a significant check on an El Duce even within the U.S. Constitutional system. Kelly hasn't had enough practice at being a civilian either.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
To be fair, Trump is a moron so you have to interpret what he means. He probably meant he didn't say it with the same callousness that the congresswoman heard.

It's really a simple misunderstanding. "He knew what he signed up for" depending on how you interpret it. You can interpret it to mean that he bravely signed up knowing this could happen. Or you could interpret it dismissively. I believe Trump was [probably] trying to console but he's awful at it as we know.

Trump could have simply clarified and maybe called her back instead of turning this into an argument at a funeral. Both Trump and the congresswoman could have handled it better. But only Trump is the president and leader of the country.
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Came here to say this, with the addition that Trump doesn't seem to have an empathetic bone in his body, so it's difficult for him to relay a message of condolence.

If he did have the capacity for empathy, he wouldn't have to "guess it hurt" to lose a loved one, he would KNOW it, and have some sort of understanding that it hurts.
 
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Critter7r said:
Came here to say this, with the addition that Trump doesn't seem to have an empathetic bone in his body, so it's difficult for him to relay a message of condolence.

If he did have the capacity for empathy, he wouldn't have to "guess it hurt" to lose a loved one, he would KNOW it, and have some sort of understanding that it hurts.
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But he knows you have to stand for the National Anthem. Or at least he knows his idiot followers think so.
 
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