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Tightening the leash on fake service dogs

Renae said:
ABOUT DAMNED TIME. Crack down on these idiots.
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I completely agree. Service dogs should require a special license displayed on their uniform vest. Allowing everyone to claim they have a service dog is ridiculous. Dog owners can be looney.
 
countryboy said:
You realize this has nothing to do with animals, right? The seething hatred from the left towards anyone to the right of Karl Marx is all they have anymore. Total waste of time. How often do we see new membership here anymore? Libs are ruining this place.
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You do realize that what you said is ironic since it's actually the extreme conservatives who are ruining this place. So much hatred for anyone left of Adolf Hitler (yes, Hitler was a right winger).
 
There is a difference between a service dog and an emotional support animal. The former requires quite a bit of training. The latter, not as much. I do think there should be more regulations for the latter. I have requested and gotten approval for emotional support animals to be allowed in dorms and in apartments, but that's because I CAN certify the need. There are some websites where you can just buy the vest for a fee. That sort of thing needs to be regulated out.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
You do realize that what you said is ironic since it's actually the extreme conservatives who are ruining this place. So much hatred for anyone left of Adolf Hitler (yes, Hitler was a right winger).
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Hitler was a national socialist, lol. I've never understood why he is considered "right wing" on the political spectrum, but even if true, his ideology bore no resemblance to American Constitutional conservatism. As much as libs would love to paint us as Nazis, we're just not. :shrug:

You're a smart guy Cap'n, you know in your heart of hearts, what I said is true. ;)
 
countryboy said:
Hitler was a national socialist, lol. I've never understood why he is considered "right wing" on the political spectrum, but even if true, his ideology bore no resemblance to American Constitutional conservatism. As much as libs would love to paint us as Nazis, we're just not. :shrug:

You're a smart guy Cap'n, you know in your heart of hearts, what I said is true. ;)
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Nazism, on the political spectrum was far more right wing than left wing. That being said, Nazism bears no resemblance to either American right wingers or left winger. Anyone who disagrees is a political hack who has no credibility. My comment was an overgeneralized counter to your overgeneralized silliness.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
There is a difference between a service dog and an emotional support animal. The former requires quite a bit of training. The latter, not as much. I do think there should be more regulations for the latter. I have requested and gotten approval for emotional support animals to be allowed in dorms and in apartments, but that's because I CAN certify the need. There are some websites where you can just buy the vest for a fee. That sort of thing needs to be regulated out.
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Apartment or dorms is fine, that's where you live, and having an emotional support dog at home... good. Doubly so that they went through a pro.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Part II

Ever talked to a blind person who doesn't know you about their dog? I'm sure you have many times.

You've probably noticed that most - not all - but most blind people will at some point early in the conversation ask you to please not pet their dog. Those are well trained masters who know that as much as they love their dogs their dogs are working. Even lying still on the floor those dogs are working. A good handler/master understands that the it is very important that their dog fully understands the difference between work and play. Much work and much training history and research is behind all that.

Have you ever talked to a deaf or a hard of hearing person with a hearing dog? I am sure you have as well. You probably noticed that frequently their master/handler does ask you not to pet the dog. Some masters do, but in my experience deaf people or hard of hearing people are less strict with their dogs. Is it a matter of training or lack there of or a difference in disability? There are/have been many good discussion about it.

Blind dogs and hearing dogs and their training are most often funded differently. My money says the difference in behavior of dog and master may start there.

We can get into and perhaps should address other types of service dogs and service animals and their training.

We cannot address certification or uniform standards for all service dogs and their disabled owners until we've reviewed and discussed each and every facet of their unique needs, relationships, expectations, behaviors, assessments, trainings and fundings.

A service dog certified by the city of San Antonio might be expected to meet much higher standards than a service dog in Chicago. Throw different disabilities into the mix and different animals.

As a business owner you cannot deny me and my dog entry, with of course limited exceptions. If my dog pee on a bag of rice in Walmart you as the manager have a right to ask me to leave. You can deny me re-entry with my service dog.

If my dog sits quietly on the floor under my table in a restaurant you may not demand that my dog must leave.

Disabled people under federal law are not required to show you as a business proof of their disability.
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Fake Service Dogs: A Shame...And A Crime - Dogtime
Fake service dogs are becoming a problem | WUSA9.com
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/fake-service-dogs-growing-problem-8c11366537
Enough with the fake service dogs and 'emotional support' pigs - Chicago Tribune
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/lara-lillibridge/whats-the-harm-in-faking-_b_7935996.html
http://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-experts/the-problem-with-fake-service-dogs
https://www.sitstay.com/blogs/good-dog-blog/fake-service-dogs
 
 
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