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Yes there was Russian collusion...

rocket88 said:
Honestly, I don't find it strange at all that Zuckerberg does not personally approve all ads on Facebook.
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That’s interesting, because that has nothing to do with what I said...
 
iliveonramen said:
If Hillary is bought and paid for by the Russians, you'd think they would of spent more time trying to get her elected.
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Who says they didnt ? Remember how horrible a candidate she was.
Not even the Obama administrations surveillance and unmasking of Trump officials could get her over the top.
 
PeteEU said:
More pathetic attempts by Trump supporters to deflect attention away from the moron in the White House.

Guess we can bring up that Trump buildings have been used to launder hundreds of millions of Russian mafia money eh? When will the investigation start into that?
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So, those 9 uranium one investors, all with Russian government ties didn’t give the Clinton Foundation 145 million just before this deal, got it.
 
Fenton said:
Lol...Hillarious ! Yea whats the difference between our neighbor and fellow NATO member owns 20 percent of our Uranium and Putins Russia owning 20 percent of our uranium ?

And according to every story thats reporting on this, the FBIs investigation uncovered millions of dollars sent from Russian Nuclear officials to the Clinton foundation and Bills 500k speeches to the Russian bank that supported this deal are old news.
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Again.. it is 20% of the production.. not of uranium. And so freaking what. There are restrictions on who can buy that uranium and export it. Ownership only means that, the Russians get the profits instead of the Canadians.

It is another pathetic ignorant American right wing conspiracy theory that has zero basis in facts or reality.
 
woodsman said:
So, those 9 uranium one investors, all with Russian government ties didn’t give the Clinton Foundation 145 million just before this deal, got it.
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For the love of god... even if the Russians did do that, Clinton would be one of 11+ people who would have to sign off on the freaking deal. Show me that, those 11+ other people, which includes the CIA director, NSA, Sec of Energy and Interior and a bunch of other intelligence organisations.. that they ALL were bribed to sign off on a deal that gave a Russian company the ownership of 20% of the production of Uranium in the US.... not like this uranium is going to Russia, because that is not allowed. Not to mention, Russia has its own resources and dont need it. Oh and also show that Obama received a bribe, because he also had to sign off on it...
 
PeteEU said:
Again.. it is 20% of the production.. not of uranium. And so freaking what. There are restrictions on who can buy that uranium and export it. Ownership only means that, the Russians get the profits instead of the Canadians.

It is another pathetic ignorant American right wing conspiracy theory that has zero basis in facts or reality.
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First, this is no " ignorant American right wing conspiracy", the FBI documented all of these charges and the corruption that surrounds this deai

If its just a ignorant right wing conspiracy, then debunk it....( you cant )
Yes, The Russia Scandal Is Real ? And It Involves Hillary Clinton | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD


And its not about who gets the profit, the Canadian Company held large amounts of US uranium assets, which is why this deal had to be approved by the US Foreign Investment Council which Hillary Clinton sat on.

They allowed a deal to go through knowing it would benefit Moscow and Putin.

They also ignored an ongoing FBI investigation into Russian bribery and extortion that included pay outs of over 140 million dollars from Russian nuclear officials to the Clinton foundation and payed speeches to Bill Clinton from a Russian bank that supported the deal.

Who was the active FBI director at the time ? Mueller, who had plenty of incentive to cover his ass as did Comey

I think the Russian Trump Collusion scandal has morphed nicely into the Obama extorion scandal, dont you think ?
 
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Trippy Trekker said:
I have no recollection of ever making political demands. I have generously dispersed political opinions, certainly with only minuscule effect on achieving the political outcomes of my choice.

That said.....

Since Hillary did not win the election, I would think any Sweeping Under The Rug on her behalf by her supporters would have become increasingly harder. As for her and her husband having benefited by dirty deals with Russian Operatives, if indicted, tried and convicted, I trust the judgment of our Judiciary to render commensurate punishment... maybe even the Death Sentence!

I despise Sessions... and approve of his Recusal. I admire Mueller... and approve of his Probe.
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Nevermind right and wrong?
 
apdst said:
Nevermind right and wrong?
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Right or wrong matters. The matter lies too far outside my purview to render a definitive judgment. As I stated "... I have generously dispersed political opinions, certainly with only minuscule effect on achieving the political outcomes of my choice." I leave the hard work of determining a verdict to people better positioned and more competent than me.
 
Fenton said:
Its certainly starting to appear that way, isnt it ?

The FBI and DOJ and WH and State Department and of-course Hillary Clinton knew of this impending investigation into Russian bribery and kickbacks to American contractors, they knew Putins wanted this deal, that it would benefit the Russian Govt and still allowed it to go through.

After the deal Bill gets 500k speaking fees from a Russian Bank and millions of dollars from Russian Nuclear officials finds its way into the coffers of the Clinton foundation

A informant is now coming forward claiming he was threatened with prosecution by the Lynch justice dept if he disclosed any of this to Congress.

Look, if you dont like it, I suggets you people STOP supporting and defending scum bag politicians
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Bribery and kickbacks is how business is done in Russia. Does it benefit Putin? Of course it does. Did the State Department make a deal with a foreign government and tell people not to go blabbing it? I'd be concerned if they didn't. Need I remind you how Trump feels about leakers? Why is it bad for leaks out of the Trump WH, but if it's Democrats it's evidence of a criminal conspiracy?

Did Bill speak in Russia and make money? Of course he did. It's free enterprise. Again, apparently when a Democrat does it, that's evidence of a criminal conspiracy.

The Clinton foundation is corrupt as hell. Hillary Clinton is corrupt as hell. I didn't vote for her.

None of this is evidence that Putin intervened on Clinton's behalf in the election. There is evidence that he did for Trump. Most conservatives don't even bother to say he didn't, they just say it's no big deal. Whether there was collusion with the campaign is an open question. They tried to get something from Putin (see Junior's meeting with the Russians).

You are the one supporting scumbag politicians like Manafort. I guess IOKIYAR.
 
jmotivator said:
The Hill is "Trumpettes"? :roll: :lamo

There is more evidence for this collusion than anything you believe about Trump/Russia and it also happens to have Robert Mueller caught up in it. That must really sting.
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And yet, you tell us it was no big deal if Trump did. It's only bad if a Democrat did it, right?
 
MaggieD said:
That’s interesting, because that has nothing to do with what I said...
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He.said he was unaware of it until someone pointed it out. You think that's a conspiracy that he didn't know.
 
Fenton said:
First, this is no " ignorant American right wing conspiracy", the FBI documented all of these charges and the corruption that surrounds this deai

If its just a ignorant right wing conspiracy, then debunk it....( you cant )
Yes, The Russia Scandal Is Real ? And It Involves Hillary Clinton | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD


And its not about who gets the profit, the Canadian Company held large amounts of US uranium assets, which is why this deal had to be approved by the US Foreign Investment Council which Hillary Clinton sat on.

They allowed a deal to go through knowing it would benefit Moscow and Putin.

They also ignored an ongoing FBI investigation into Russian bribery and extortion that included pay outs of over 140 million dollars from Russian nuclear officials to the Clinton foundation and payed speeches to Bill Clinton from a Russian bank that supported the deal.

Who was the active FBI director at the time ? Mueller, who had plenty of incentive to cover his ass as did Comey

I think the Russian Trump Collusion scandal has morphed nicely into the Obama extorion scandal, dont you think ?
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Not really....There is not a shred of proof that Hillary knew about the FBI investigations or that the money given to the Clinton charity influenced anyone's decision on the agreement. We don't know what Mueller will find about Trump/Russia collusion yet but there sure is a lot of "smoke" there.

The New York Times reported in 2015 that “as the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation.”

It is virtually impossible to view these donations as anything other than an attempt to curry favor with Clinton. Donations alone do not, however, prove that Clinton was actually influenced by money to vote in favor of the Uranium One sale — or to overlook the FBI investigation. Again, there is no evidence that she even knew about the investigation.

Similarly, it is virtually impossible to view foreign dignitaries' habit of lodging at Trump's Washington hotel as anything other than an attempt to curry favor with the president. Reservations and room service alone do not, however, prove that Trump's foreign policy is actually influenced by money.

Some people willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt are denying Clinton the same courtesy.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/19/making-sense-of-russia-uranium-and-hillary-clinton/?utm_term=.1f8388e8d6a3
 
rocket88 said:
And yet, you tell us it was no big deal if Trump did. It's only bad if a Democrat did it, right?
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LOL. Where did I ever say any of that?
 
rocket88 said:
Bribery and kickbacks is how business is done in Russia. Does it benefit Putin? Of course it does. Did the State Department make a deal with a foreign government and tell people not to go blabbing it? I'd be concerned if they didn't. Need I remind you how Trump feels about leakers? Why is it bad for leaks out of the Trump WH, but if it's Democrats it's evidence of a criminal conspiracy?

Did Bill speak in Russia and make money? Of course he did. It's free enterprise. Again, apparently when a Democrat does it, that's evidence of a criminal conspiracy.

The Clinton foundation is corrupt as hell. Hillary Clinton is corrupt as hell. I didn't vote for her.

None of this is evidence that Putin intervened on Clinton's behalf in the election. There is evidence that he did for Trump. Most conservatives don't even bother to say he didn't, they just say it's no big deal. Whether there was collusion with the campaign is an open question. They tried to get something from Putin (see Junior's meeting with the Russians).

You are the one supporting scumbag politicians like Manafort. I guess IOKIYAR.
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Whether or not Putin intervened on Clintons behalf is irrelevent and not the issue.
The issue is giving Russia access and ownership to 20 percent of US uranium.

Also who profited from the deal and why that deal was allowed to go through while there was a active FBI investigation of Russian Nuclear officials in progress ?

Its safe to assume Mueller knew, he was the FBI director at the time and it safe to assume Holder knew also
Of-course Hillary knew, and Bill knew, given the over 140 million dollars in " donations " given to the Clinton foundation from Russian nuclear officials

You say this is how bussiness is done ? Not if the FBI, DOJ and the Executive branch is doing their jobs its not.

There's no excuse for this, no justification if its accurate. This is actual evidence of Russian collusion at the highest levels of US Govt that resulted in Moscow getting access and control to 20 percent of US uranium assets.
 
Fenton said:
Whether or not Putin intervened on Clintons behalf is irrelevent and not the issue.
The issue is giving Russia access and ownership to 20 percent of US uranium.

Also who profited from the deal and why that deal was allowed to go through while there was a active FBI investigation of Russian Nuclear officials in progress ?

Its safe to assume Mueller knew, he was the FBI director at the time and it safe to assume Holder knew also
Of-course Hillary knew, and Bill knew, given the over 140 million dollars in " donations " given to the Clinton foundation from Russian nuclear officials

You say this is how bussiness is done ? Not if the FBI, DOJ and the Executive branch is doing their jobs its not.

There's no excuse for this, no justification if its accurate. This is actual evidence of Russian collusion at the highest levels of US Govt that resulted in Moscow getting access and control to 20 percent of US uranium assets.
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Ok Tell me how much American uranium has been exported since Russia has had "access and control of 20% of our assets" then. Surely if Russia is "benefiting" they must have some of our uranium, Right? That was the whole point of them buying it wasn't it? So give me the link that shows exactly how much U.S. Uranium they have exported or STFU.
 
iguanaman said:
Not really....There is not a shred of proof that Hillary knew about the FBI investigations or that the money given to the Clinton charity influenced anyone's decision on the agreement. We don't know what Mueller will find about Trump/Russia collusion yet but there sure is a lot of "smoke" there.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/19/making-sense-of-russia-uranium-and-hillary-clinton/?utm_term=.1f8388e8d6a3
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If Hillary didnt know about the ongoing investigations, that meant the Obama FBI and DOJ kept these investigations to themselves.

And Holder was also on that commitee, you dont think he knew ? He voted to allow the deal to go through. Mueller knew and so did Comey too

As for the over 140 million from Russian Nuclear officials not influencing her vote ? Really ?? Is that what WaPo is resting their hopes on ?
 
iguanaman said:
Ok Tell me how much American uranium has been exported since Russia has had "access and control of 20% of our assets" then. Surely if Russia is "benefiting" they must have some of our uranium, Right? That was the whole point of them buying it wasn't it? So give me the link that shows exactly how much U.S. Uranium they have exported or STFU.
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Why would the Russians donate 140 milllion dollars to the Clinton foundation to curry favor with the Sec of State if they didnt think the deal wasnt to their benefit ?
Its calld pay to play for a reason, do try to keep up
 
MaggieD said:
Do you ever wonder why all of the Facebook ads, fake news as it’s been called, hasn’t been released? There have been bits and pieces, but not much as compared to the so-called thousands of these memes that were making the rounds. Does that strike you as unusual? Using your critical thinking skills, why do you think that is, Trippy? Why do you think every single one of those hasn’t been released either by the Senate Committee or Facebook? Or leaked?

Do you ever wonder why Mark Zuckerberg found the whole idea of Facebook accepting ads from fake organizations was ludicrous UNTIL his own employees did an investigation in the background and uncovered them? What do your critical thinking skills suggest to you about THAT, my Trippy Trekker friend? (I love your name.)
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We just may have an ongoing Massive Conspiracy! A whole lot of shenanigans goes on behind the scenes! A few weeks ago, Zuckerberg seemed apologetic and regretful for not coming forward sooner. I don't know who to believe.

I mainly try to read the tea leaves and stay clear of danger!
 
Trippy Trekker said:
No. I appreciated that! I have ample history with Jmotivator. I like and respect him. I have become very familiar with his posting style and RWN rhetoric. You Loved his OP didn't you?
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Any American who values the rule of law and the idea that corrupt Govt officials can in this day and age still be held accountable for their actions should love that Op

Thats the kind of crap that happens in 3rd world hell holes, like Venezualla. Its shouldnt be happening here
 
Fenton said:
Why would the Russians donate 140 milllion dollars to the Clinton foundation to curry favor with the Sec of State if they didnt think the deal wasnt to their benefit ?
Its calld pay to play for a reason, do try to keep up
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I asked a simple question and you seem to be at a loss. How are the Russians benefiting any more than the Canadians who used to own that 20% share of our uranium assets? Were you as outraged when it was sold to them? Why is it that foreign Govts. who stay at Trump hotels are not engaged in "pay to play" every bit as much as the Clinton foundation donations that you claim are? The Clinton's did not benefit from donations to their charity but Trump certainly is from diplomats that stay at his hotel.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
I'm a libertarian, I've never been a national socialist, or supported statist ideology. I was for gay marriage and ending the drug war before you were. So if you have a problem with me calling you a nazi, you should probably not have called me a nazi. derp.
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My derpism pales when compared with your Nazism.
You spew inflammatory nonsense (perhaps unknowingly). When you directed some of it toward me... specifically accusing me and my ilk of spreading violence..... I felt offended. I spit some of it back.
 
iguanaman said:
I asked a simple question and you seem to be at a loss. How are the Russians benefiting any more than the Canadians who used to own that 20% share of our uranium assets? Were you as outraged when it was sold to them? Why is it that foreign Govts. who stay at Trump hotels are not engaged in "pay to play" every bit as much as the Clinton foundation donations that you claim are? The Clinton's did not benefit from donations to their charity but Trump certainly is from diplomats that stay at his hotel.
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Here, inform yourselves on why Russia was interested in 1/5 of our the USs uranium mining capacity
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation...ndation-as-russians-gained-us-uranium-assets/

And your comparing Canada to Russia, our mortal enemy ?
 
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