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Politically Incorrect or Racist

ecofarm said:
If history was the only problem with his claim. Sociology, economics, anthroplogy, geopolitics, all fails.
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If his name was never mentioned today, I would have gone the rest of my life never knowing of him.

Really, what he says has that much importance to me.
 
Cigar said:
If his name was never mentioned today, I would have gone the rest of my life never knowing of him.

Really, what he says has that much importance to me.
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I don't care about him, I'm here to debate his claim of political incorrectness. Others might believe his other claims are debatable. No one need care about him at all to engage in my or other points of debate.
 
ecofarm said:
I don't care about him, I'm here to debate his claim of political incorrectness. Others might believe his other claims are debatable. No one need care about him at all to engage in my or other points of debate.
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I don't believe in Political Correctness, the only time it's used is to defend someone who is Incorrect.
 
ecofarm said:
Market strategist Marc Faber under fire for racist remarks - Oct. 17, 2017


Is his statement the truth however politically incorrect, or is his statement racist?

It's very racist. Political correctness is not the issue, the accuracy and foundation of his statement is the issue. He ignores world and national history, socionomics, anthropology and every other factor in his quest to paint black people as inferior.
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Going by the definition of racism, yes it is very much racist as it shows that this guy thinks whites are superior.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Going by the definition of racism, yes it is very much racist as it shows that this guy thinks whites are superior.
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'Politically incorrect' meaning having some basis in reality but inappropriate for general audience, or just stupid?
 
ecofarm said:
Market strategist Marc Faber under fire for racist remarks - Oct. 17, 2017


Is his statement the truth however politically incorrect, or is his statement racist?

It's very racist. Political correctness is not the issue, the accuracy and foundation of his statement is the issue. He ignores world and national history, socionomics, anthropology and every other factor in his quest to paint black people as inferior.
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Well, let's look at some definitions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness: The term political correctness (adjectivally: politically correct; commonly abbreviated to PC or P.C.) is used to describe language, policies, or measures that are intended to avoid offense or disadvantage to members of particular groups in society.

Well, he certainly did not try and avoid offense, so yes, his comment is politically incorrect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism: Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another, which often results in discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity.

His comment certainly seems to indicate a belief that whites are superior to blacks, so yes, his comment is racist. Looks like the answer to your question is that it is both politically incorrect and racist.
 
ecofarm said:
'Politically incorrect' meaning having some basis in reality but inappropriate for general audience, or just stupid?
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It's a made up word no different than Reverse Discrimination ...

You're either Correct or Not or you Discriminate or Not.
 
I find his comments give him very little excuse to not have people assume they are racist. This falls in the category of extraordinary claims needs extraordinary evidence...

I don't find it racist to explore and possibly hypothesize the reasons why America turned out better than Zimbabwe, or even the claim that white European settlers correlated with better civilization success(I would probably agree with this actually, but my guess it would be because culturally and technologically European settlers were a lot more advanced, in comparison to most the world which was still fairly primitive.... though the guy chose to single out skin color). But the way he was so absolutely certain all the while being insensitive to weight of his claim.... deems it very racist to me.

I would say both.
 
ecofarm said:
'Politically incorrect' meaning having some basis in reality but inappropriate for general audience, or just stupid?
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You asked if what he said was racist or politically incorrect. I answered "racist". So...what does your post have to do with what I said?
 
Cigar said:
I was Joking ... this is a Marketing Strategist, I'd be more concerned if this was the President, and we all know exactly what he thinks about the subject.
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That's true, but what's a little worrying is a guy like this now feels comfortable to fly his obviously racist flag in public. Whether you were aware of him or not, he's made probably hundreds of TV appearances, writes a well regarded newsletter, and travels in some high profile circles. When a guy like that, in prepared written remarks he's worked on for days, edited, considered, etc. makes what are just blatantly racist comments, I'm a little concerned we're entering into dark territory as a country.
 
Kal'Stang said:
You asked if what he said was racist or politically incorrect. I answered "racist". So...what does your post have to do with what I said?
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It appears there's some debate about what constitutes politically incorrect (I don't believe mere offense is sufficient) and I wasn't sure of your position on that aspect of his claim.
 
JasperL said:
That's true, but what's a little worrying is a guy like this now feels comfortable to fly his obviously racist flag in public. Whether you were aware of him or not, he's made probably hundreds of TV appearances, writes a well regarded newsletter, and travels in some high profile circles. When a guy like that, in prepared written remarks he's worked on for days, edited, considered, etc. makes what are just blatantly racist comments, I'm a little concerned we're entering into dark territory as a country.
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Oh obviously he feels safe in the internet and more safe in today's political climate knowing they he has like-minded supporters and a President. You see this maybe news to some people, not me. I've been living this all my life and it's noting new, just louder and more public.
 
ecofarm said:
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Look, when someone calls Native Americans 'Indians', that's not politically correct. It's true the designation was used in the past, but we no longer abide a centuries old geography mistake. More importantly, we call a people what they call themselves, not a name we invent - that's just decency.

But there is no accuracy or basis to his statement. Claiming his statement is politically incorrect is, in reality, supporting his statement by pretending there is some basis.
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Racism is all politically incorrect. But NOT all political incorrectness is racist. Thus I agree with those who said both.

We need a definition of Political Correctness, others have defined racism here. With any of these distinction you make isn't valid.

Google has:
the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.
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M-W has:
conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated
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Wikipedia:
is used to describe language, policies, or measures that are intended to avoid offense or disadvantage to members of particular groups in society.
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My definition would be close to the M-W, but would add matters of religion to sex and race. More could be thought of, I'm sure, like culture.
 
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