The SJW - Positive or negative impact on Liberal politics?

What is it your mother told you, when you came across a bully in elementary school?
Mine told me to ignore them and they'd go away. Then my dad added..."unless they hit you".

Is the Social Justice Warrior, and indeed the entire Politically Correct movement, having a positive or negative impact on Liberal politics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzc8glS2r_o

I have always cast my votes for the candidate who best reflects my opinions and beliefs at any given time. Thus I've voted Liberal, Conservative, and even once came close for voting for the NDP. But I had already had enough of the PC ever-lovin' SJW before Donny got elected, and after seeing the response to the last presidential election, and the ill feeling I get everytime I have to listen to Canada's PM Pixey-Dust, I'm presently a firm conservative vote.

I'm curious how other independents and centerists feel about this?

Definitely negative.

Last election I voted for a Democrat, a Republican, and an Independent. I think the SJW movement is definitely negative.

Social justice is based on Matthew 25. Not the DJI or some Ayn Rand novel.

Buzz62 said:

What is it your mother told you, when you came across a bully in elementary school?
Mine told me to ignore them and they'd go away. Then my dad added..."unless they hit you".

Is the Social Justice Warrior, and indeed the entire Politically Correct movement, having a positive or negative impact on Liberal politics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzc8glS2r_o

I have always cast my votes for the candidate who best reflects my opinions and beliefs at any given time. Thus I've voted Liberal, Conservative, and even once came close for voting for the NDP. But I had already had enough of the PC ever-lovin' SJW before Donny got elected, and after seeing the response to the last presidential election, and the ill feeling I get everytime I have to listen to Canada's PM Pixey-Dust, I'm presently a firm conservative vote.

I'm curious how other independents and centerists feel about this?

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They were a major factor in Trump being elected president. That's either good or bad, depending on which side you belong to. The amazing thing though is the fact that the SJW haven't a clue that they are the ones who are responsible for electing Trump president.

Social Justice views aren't necessarily the problem. You're never going to get everyone on planet earth to agree with the same things on every single "issue." The problem is Social Justice views held by many are as much their own religion as the member of ISIS has his or hers. And they want to impose that Social Justice religion on you, largely because they are convinced they are the bearers of truth.

I don't really care for that simply giving a verbal command instruction as in "Never hit back" or "Just hit them back if they hit you." Verbal commands are a beginning but insufficient in creating champions. Anyone can tell their son to punch back. But teaching them how to throw a proper punch, or how to place someone in a strangulation hold, or how to execute limb destruction is another thing altogether. Ergo, placing your child under competent instruction if you don't know how to do and/or teach these things. No different that ballet, tennis, mathematics, foreign language and so on.









PG Gracie Jujitsu Anti-Bully Program Advertisements. But Real Life Bully Violence is Shown. Lest the SJW Holier Than Thou Crowd Screech I'm Showing Promotion of Senseless Violence. Rather.... I'm Showuing Illustrations of the Kind of Champion Building Recommended in the Book Below. As Opposed to Poor People and Middle-Class People's Reliance on Pure Verbal Command (e.g., "Just fight back" :roll:








It is wrong though to assume women, mothers, teach children not to fight back and men, fathers do. Women that have been reared in tough environments or under tough parents will usually be female Spartans about impressing upon their children a need to fight bullies back. Women reared in more kind, gentle areas tend to be the exact opposite in beliefs--which is fine except they have a holier than thou tone to them about the need to never fight back, and how violence never solves anything.



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Negative impact.

Buzz62 said:

What is it your mother told you, when you came across a bully in elementary school?
Mine told me to ignore them and they'd go away. Then my dad added..."unless they hit you".

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That's the wrong advice to give a child. Ignoring them makes you look weak, which means they'll keep bullying you. And if they hit you first, you'll be too injured to hit them back.

School is basically prison for children and operates by the same rules. First rule is that you don't take sh** from anybody. If somebody lightly teases you on the first day, break his fingers. You'll get suspended for sure and you won't make a lot of friends, but that's better than being bullied for five years.

Same goes for SJWs. Crush them on the trivial stuff and they won't push the big stuff. Never let them move the Overton window, even if you agree with where they're moving it. This is where the liberals went wrong on gay marriage: instead of redefining "marriage", which lets the SJWs score a point against straight people, they should have just pushed for civil unions to be treated as legally identical to marriage - same practical outcome but no SJW victory.

If you ally with the SJWs, you will become corrupt. You'll be like Lot living in Sodom. When the mob of rapists banged on Lot's door, demanding he hand over his guests to them, Lot tried to appease the mob by offering up his daughters instead. Lot was a virtuous man, but by virtue-signalling to the vile men of Sodom, he became just as vile as them. And just as God destroyed the Sodomites with fire from the heavens, so too are the SJWs eventually destroyed, so you'd better get away from them to avoid the fallout. But don't isolate yourself in a cave afterwards, or you'll end up committing incest, metaphorically speaking. And don't binge-watch Jordan Peterson lectures either.

Buzz62 said:

What is it your mother told you, when you came across a bully in elementary school?
Mine told me to ignore them and they'd go away. Then my dad added..."unless they hit you".

Is the Social Justice Warrior, and indeed the entire Politically Correct movement, having a positive or negative impact on Liberal politics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzc8glS2r_o

I have always cast my votes for the candidate who best reflects my opinions and beliefs at any given time. Thus I've voted Liberal, Conservative, and even once came close for voting for the NDP. But I had already had enough of the PC ever-lovin' SJW before Donny got elected, and after seeing the response to the last presidential election, and the ill feeling I get everytime I have to listen to Canada's PM Pixey-Dust, I'm presently a firm conservative vote.

I'm curious how other independents and centerists feel about this?

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The only reason that conservatives and some independents see "SJW's" as negative is because that's how the right wants to label those who fight for civil rights. According to what seems to be the perception of conservatives today, almost everyone involved in the Civil Rights struggle would have been seen as an "SJW". It seems that even Truman would have been seen as an SJW for demanding full integration of the military.

Here's the key: you can have freedom TO discriminate, or you can have freedom FROM discrimination. You can't have both. Y'all need to make up your minds as to whether you want a nation where people are judged by the content of their character, or whether you stand with the white nationalists who whine whenever those terrible, oh-so-unAmerican SJW's remind them of our nation's racist heritage.

So make up your minds what you want: freedom to discriminate, or freedom from discrimination. You can have one or the other, but not both. Just bear in mind that if you want the freedom to discrimination, someday you (or your children or grandchildren) might be on the receiving end of that discrimination. Careful what you wish for.

Buzz62 said:

What is it your mother told you, when you came across a bully in elementary school?
Mine told me to ignore them and they'd go away. Then my dad added..."unless they hit you".

Is the Social Justice Warrior, and indeed the entire Politically Correct movement, having a positive or negative impact on Liberal politics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzc8glS2r_o

I have always cast my votes for the candidate who best reflects my opinions and beliefs at any given time. Thus I've voted Liberal, Conservative, and even once came close for voting for the NDP. But I had already had enough of the PC ever-lovin' SJW before Donny got elected, and after seeing the response to the last presidential election, and the ill feeling I get everytime I have to listen to Canada's PM Pixey-Dust, I'm presently a firm conservative vote.

I'm curious how other independents and centerists feel about this?

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There's a phenomenon in feedback control systems known as "overshoot":



Consider the peak of the curve being the cherry picked "SJW", the "Commanded Position" where society should settle, and the starting point pre-1900s or so.

Of course, it should be obvious that social justice is a good thing. We should all continue to be very clear on that. Caring about social justice should not be a point of humiliation. This isn't a joke, people have suffered and died over these issues, and not as long ago as we'd like to admit.

We might ultimately disagree on where the "Commanded Position" should be. That's fine. But the idea that liberals should be ashamed of their passion for social justice is patently absurd. That's just who we are.

Going back go the original theory, denying the cause in general is a doomed proposition. It'd be like arguing that you shouldn't even try steer your car with your steering wheel because you might not get it perfect on the first iteration.

Glen Contrarian said:

The only reason that conservatives and some independents see "SJW's" as negative is because that's how the right wants to label those who fight for civil rights. According to what seems to be the perception of conservatives today, almost everyone involved in the Civil Rights struggle would have been seen as an "SJW". It seems that even Truman would have been seen as an SJW for demanding full integration of the military.

Here's the key: you can have freedom TO discriminate, or you can have freedom FROM discrimination. You can't have both. Y'all need to make up your minds as to whether you want a nation where people are judged by the content of their character, or whether you stand with the white nationalists who whine whenever those terrible, oh-so-unAmerican SJW's remind them of our nation's racist heritage.

So make up your minds what you want: freedom to discriminate, or freedom from discrimination. You can have one or the other, but not both. Just bear in mind that if you want the freedom to discrimination, someday you (or your children or grandchildren) might be on the receiving end of that discrimination. Careful what you wish for.

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A legitimate poll of African Americans found that more favored keeping confederate statues than in removing them (44%-40%). But, that doesn't stop the rabid left from claiming they are offensive and wanting them removed. Political correctness has run amok. The left discriminate against the right all the time but they don't view it that way because they claim the moral highground - no different than the far right claiming the moral highground. The left rail against the police as if the .1% of bad things that happen represents 100% of police forces. Hell, just recently in my town a very bad criminal black thug was killed by white police officers and during the press conference they had a moment of silence for the black thug. The left treats the antifa as heroes and on and on. PC has run amok.

APB212 said:

That's the wrong advice to give a child. Ignoring them makes you look weak, which means they'll keep bullying you. And if they hit you first, you'll be too injured to hit them back.

School is basically prison for children and operates by the same rules. First rule is that you don't take sh** from anybody. If somebody lightly teases you on the first day, break his fingers. You'll get suspended for sure and you won't make a lot of friends, but that's better than being bullied for five years.

Same goes for SJWs. Crush them on the trivial stuff and they won't push the big stuff. Never let them move the Overton window, even if you agree with where they're moving it. This is where the liberals went wrong on gay marriage: instead of redefining "marriage", which lets the SJWs score a point against straight people, they should have just pushed for civil unions to be treated as legally identical to marriage - same practical outcome but no SJW victory.

If you ally with the SJWs, you will become corrupt. You'll be like Lot living in Sodom. When the mob of rapists banged on Lot's door, demanding he hand over his guests to them, Lot tried to appease the mob by offering up his daughters instead. Lot was a virtuous man, but by virtue-signalling to the vile men of Sodom, he became just as vile as them. And just as God destroyed the Sodomites with fire from the heavens, so too are the SJWs eventually destroyed, so you'd better get away from them to avoid the fallout. But don't isolate yourself in a cave afterwards, or you'll end up committing incest, metaphorically speaking. And don't binge-watch Jordan Peterson lectures either.

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Here's a question, guy - are the people in Asia and Europe a different breed of humans than those found in America? If you say "yes", then no one can help you. If you say "no", then I would ask you why it is that schools in developed nations outside of America are MUCH more peaceful than our schools are. In other words, perhaps you should rephrase your answer to refer to American schools rather than schools in general. And if you realize that the problem is not with schools in general, but with American schools, then that means that you admit that the problem's with American culture, that the other oh-so-socialized nations are better than we are when it comes to schools.

And FYI, I did send both my sons to school outside America. My youngest came home from school one day and told me how he knew other kids who brought guns to school every day. Within two months he found himself going to school in the Philippines...and he learned very quickly from his fellow students that weapons are not welcome there. He brought a penknife to school one day and the other students gathered around him and berated him for bringing a knife, asking him "why do you need a knife here? This isn't America!"

APB212 said:

That's the wrong advice to give a child. Ignoring them makes you look weak, which means they'll keep bullying you. And if they hit you first, you'll be too injured to hit them back.

School is basically prison for children and operates by the same rules. First rule is that you don't take sh** from anybody. If somebody lightly teases you on the first day, break his fingers. You'll get suspended for sure and you won't make a lot of friends, but that's better than being bullied for five years.

Same goes for SJWs. Crush them on the trivial stuff and they won't push the big stuff. Never let them move the Overton window, even if you agree with where they're moving it. This is where the liberals went wrong on gay marriage: instead of redefining "marriage", which lets the SJWs score a point against straight people, they should have just pushed for civil unions to be treated as legally identical to marriage - same practical outcome but no SJW victory.

If you ally with the SJWs, you will become corrupt. You'll be like Lot living in Sodom. When the mob of rapists banged on Lot's door, demanding he hand over his guests to them, Lot tried to appease the mob by offering up his daughters instead. Lot was a virtuous man, but by virtue-signalling to the vile men of Sodom, he became just as vile as them. And just as God destroyed the Sodomites with fire from the heavens, so too are the SJWs eventually destroyed, so you'd better get away from them to avoid the fallout. But don't isolate yourself in a cave afterwards, or you'll end up committing incest, metaphorically speaking. And don't binge-watch Jordan Peterson lectures either.

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Lol, oddly enough I did that.

My first week in a new school (8th grade) a kid stabbed me with a pencil and I grabbed him out of his chair, pushed him up against the lockers and slammed one of the doors on his hand breaking 2 of his fingers. It was very rare for anyone to mess with me after that day, but I doubt that had anything to do with it besides the first few months because I doubt many remembered it for very long with the exception of that guy and myself.

I had a distant cousin that was a few years older than me that used to pick on me as a kid when I visited my family back in Tampa. He was so much bigger than me that there was literally nothing I could do to him, so I waited until he was asleep, grabbed one of those old school fans with the metal blades and stuck his toe into it. It cut to the bone. Never had another issue from him either.

Moderate Right said:

A legitimate poll of African Americans found that more favored keeping confederate statues than in removing them (44%-40%). But, that doesn't stop the rabid left from claiming they are offensive and wanting them removed. Political correctness has run amok. The left discriminate against the right all the time but they don't view it that way because they claim the moral highground - no different than the far right claiming the moral highground. The left rail against the police. The left treats the antifa as heroes.

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No, we do NOT "treat the antifa as heroes". Sure, you might find a relative handful of those on the left who do...but that's a very small percentage indeed, just as there's a very small percentage of those on the Right who want to be able to discriminate against people based on race. Don't accuse the whole with the sins of the very few.

That said, I grew up in the deepest of the Deep South, and I loved those Confederate statues...until I was in my 30's and learned just how much about the Civil War I didn't know. I had been taught that the Civil War was not about slavery...but yes, it WAS about slavery, and - speaking as a retired Navy man - there should be NO commemoration of Confederates. Why? Because they had declared that they were no longer American, and fought and killed American soldiers. We should not honor them any more than we should honor those of any other nation who fought against American soldiers.

Conversely, if you insist that they were all Americans, then they were all by definition traitors.

So which are they? Soldiers of a foreign nation? Or traitors? Either way, they are not deserving of any commemorative monuments on American public property. If you want to keep them on your private property, that's your right...but NOT on public property.

Glen Contrarian said:

Here's a question, guy - are the people in Asia and Europe a different breed of humans than those found in America? If you say "yes", then no one can help you. If you say "no", then I would ask you why it is that schools in developed nations outside of America are MUCH more peaceful than our schools are. In other words, perhaps you should rephrase your answer to refer to American schools rather than schools in general. And if you realize that the problem is not with schools in general, but with American schools, then that means that you admit that the problem's with American culture, that the other oh-so-socialized nations are better than we are when it comes to schools....

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This is true. Teachers get no respect in the US.

Glen Contrarian said:

Here's a question, guy

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How dare you assume my gender!

are the people in Asia and Europe a different breed of humans than those found in America?

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They make different noises and have a lower risk of diabetes, so I'm gonna say yes.

I would ask you why it is that schools in developed nations outside of America are MUCH more peaceful than our schools are. In other words, perhaps you should rephrase your answer to refer to American schools rather than schools in general. And if you realize that the problem is not with schools in general, but with American schools, then that means that you admit that the problem's with American culture, that the other oh-so-socialized nations are better than we are when it comes to schools.

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I'm from New Zealand. Our school system is no better than America's, except that it doesn't teach Creationism as fact.

The problem with high schools is that we're cramming young people together during their most volatile stage of development and expecting them to act like adults.

A better idea would be to apprentice them between the ages of 13 and 18. This does following:

• Quarantines them from the negative influence of a hundred other teenagers.
• Forces them to get along with a couple of other teenagers for several years (fellow apprentices).
• Allows direct adult supervision of activities, via their employer and work colleagues, at a higher ratio than provided by teachers.
• Gives them a stable structure and a sense of purpose that a school education can't provide.
• Teaches them valuable skills that they can take into the workforce upon reaching adulthood.
• Provides a source of income, which they can save towards higher education or a house/vehicle.
• Reduces opportunities for drug/alcohol abuse, vandalism, sleeping around, violence/bullying, etc.
• Creates a clear cultural boundary between childhood, apprenticeship, and adulthood, instead of a vague period of overlap.

And FYI, I did send both my sons to school outside America. My youngest came home from school one day and told me how he knew other kids who brought guns to school every day. Within two months he found himself going to school in the Philippines...and he learned very quickly from his fellow students that weapons are not welcome there. He brought a penknife to school one day and the other students gathered around him and berated him for bringing a knife, asking him "why do you need a knife here? This isn't America!"

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This is clearly a cultural difference between America and the Philippines. They're different countries with different histories and different people. You can't take an isolated piece of one culture, insert it into a different culture, and expect it to work the same way. And you can't change one culture into another overnight without replacing the people. It's also important to remember that each culture has its weaknesses as well as its strengths. Philippine culture results in a different school environment, which may be more conducive with learning than an American system, but it may also result in other social problems that American culture lacks (I know bugger-all about the Philippines, so I won't speculate on the details).

APB212 said:

How dare you assume my gender!



They make different noises and have a lower risk of diabetes, so I'm gonna say yes.



I'm from New Zealand. Our school system is no better than America's, except that it doesn't teach Creationism as fact.

The problem with high schools is that we're cramming young people together during their most volatile stage of development and expecting them to act like adults.

A better idea would be to apprentice them between the ages of 13 and 18. This does following:

• Quarantines them from the negative influence of a hundred other teenagers.
• Forces them to get along with a couple of other teenagers for several years (fellow apprentices).
• Allows direct adult supervision of activities, via their employer and work colleagues, at a higher ratio than provided by teachers.
• Gives them a stable structure and a sense of purpose that a school education can't provide.
• Teaches them valuable skills that they can take into the workforce upon reaching adulthood.
• Provides a source of income, which they can save towards higher education or a house/vehicle.
• Reduces opportunities for drug/alcohol abuse, vandalism, sleeping around, violence/bullying, etc.
• Creates a clear cultural boundary between childhood, apprenticeship, and adulthood, instead of a vague period of overlap.

This is clearly a cultural difference between America and the Philippines. They're different countries with different histories and different people. You can't take an isolated piece of one culture, insert it into a different culture, and expect it to work the same way. And you can't change one culture into another overnight without replacing the people. It's also important to remember that each culture has its weaknesses as well as its strengths. Philippine culture results in a different school environment, which may be more conducive with learning than an American system, but it may also result in other social problems that American culture lacks (I know bugger-all about the Philippines, so I won't speculate on the details).

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1. How often do your schools have to go on lockdown because of an active shooter?
2. The humans in Europe are a different species from the humans in America?
3. My entire point was the culture. A person's culture can change, but his species can't.

Glen Contrarian said:

Here's the key: you can have freedom TO discriminate, or you can have freedom FROM discrimination. You can't have both. Y'all need to make up your minds as to whether you want a nation where people are judged by the content of their character, or whether you stand with the white nationalists who whine whenever those terrible, oh-so-unAmerican SJW's remind them of our nation's racist heritage.

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That whole over said cliche is meaningless now. Liberals keep shifting the goal post on what constitutes good "content of character." So, nonsense. By liberals alone being given the Pontifical authority to keep shifting and determining what is "good character" they empower themselves over all non-liberals by enjoy a self assumed "infallibility."

So make up your minds what you want: freedom to discriminate, or freedom from discrimination. You can have one or the other, but not both. Just bear in mind that if you want the freedom to discrimination, someday you (or your children or grandchildren) might be on the receiving end of that discrimination. Careful what you wish for.

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Everyone discriminates. That is the whole damn point of rejecting others for whatever damned excuse you as a liberal or conservative have. Discrimination does not mean a person is racist or evil, it just means they are not open to all things and all people.

Social Justice Warriors are so damn holier than thou.

What is a Social Justice Warrior crusade for example: Positive body image [for women].

Every damn one of the SJW's finds it perfectly acceptable to discriminate against boys and men based on body looks.

Discrimination and prejudice are a part of life. According the science of biology it drives sexual selection. Which in turns helps drive biological evolution.

So, SJW's are holier than thou and hypocrites.

Glen Contrarian said:

1. How often do your schools have to go on lockdown because of an active shooter?

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I've never heard of that happening here, but we don't have many guns. Lots of knives though. Everybody had knives and lighters when I was at school. I got attacked with a knife once in primary school, but I don't know of anybody else doing it.

2. The humans in Europe are a different species from the humans in America?

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I don't blame you for thinking so.

3. My entire point was the culture. A person's culture can change, but his species can't.

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It's very hard to change culture. I could move to China, speak a Chinese language, eat Chinese food, marry a Chinese girl, have Chinese babies, and practice Chinese traditions. None of that would replace the nuanced experience of growing up in a Chinese family in China. I would still just be a white boy from New Zealand LARPing as Chinese. By the same token, trying to enforce Chinese culture onto average, sheep-farming New Zealanders wouldn't work so well, because they'd just be sheep-farming New Zealanders eating fried rice and playing make-believe.

Glen Contrarian said:

Here's a question, guy - are the people in Asia and Europe a different breed of humans than those found in America? If you say "yes", then no one can help you. If you say "no", then I would ask you why it is that schools in developed nations outside of America are MUCH more peaceful than our schools are. In other words, perhaps you should rephrase your answer to refer to American schools rather than schools in general. And if you realize that the problem is not with schools in general, but with American schools, then that means that you admit that the problem's with American culture, that the other oh-so-socialized nations are better than we are when it comes to schools.

And FYI, I did send both my sons to school outside America. My youngest came home from school one day and told me how he knew other kids who brought guns to school every day. Within two months he found himself going to school in the Philippines...and he learned very quickly from his fellow students that weapons are not welcome there. He brought a penknife to school one day and the other students gathered around him and berated him for bringing a knife, asking him "why do you need a knife here? This isn't America!"

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Yeah, it has a lot to do with American culture.

Aside from being brought up in the "hood" (although, I always went to Catholic schools and not public schools) I've read a couple academic-like books on gangs. America is often considered the birth place of the "super-gangs." How true that is I don't know, but certainly America is one of a few nations of earth to have produced so-called "super-gangs." Brazil and South Africa have produced them. Well... I know Brazil has and if memory service me correct South Africa has too as well.

You could say the Southern Italian Cammora (sometimes referenced as a "mafia") is one, too, given they take in teenagers and are more loosely run like American "super-gangs." Unlike the Sicilian Mafia and American La Cosa Nostra which extremely hierarchical in all or almost all decisions. And neither inducted teenagers. Young men, yes, but not 12 and 15 year-olds.

In the United States the gangs have traditionally done a lot of recruiting at the schools. So, they also helped promote a culture of violence in the schools as well.

Some of the United States super-gangs, the Gangster Disciples (originating from Chicago) in particular, when they were under Larry Hoover, modeled themselves off of for-profit corporations. Larry Hoover read about Japanese corporations while in prison and restructured his gang to model that more.

The Brazilian super-gangs, like the Red Command (I think their name is), are modeled more off of militias or the military.

Anyways, the Mexican Cartel as deadly as they are felt American raised Mexicans were far more mean and prone to violence than Mexican raised Mexicans. So, they began contracting California Mexican gang members to come to Mexico to act as both violent enforcers and as hitmen.

Then America exported the American born MS-13 and 18th Street gang to Central America.

Liberals, Democrats, Black-Americans have exported the Bloods, Crips, Vice Lords, and Gangster Disciples to other countries with black populations. Mainly it has been the Bloods and Crips but the GD's I'm told by a black person from Belize has established a small representation in the country of Belize. The Crips and Bloods actually came to New York City through Belize. The LA Crips and Bloods successfully exported their gangs to Belize who then in turn exported it to New York City.

The Crips and Bloods are now in--via blacks from Belize--the nice Netherlands. Murdering each other.

The Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCU's) have not successfully exported their "liberal" culture to blacks outside of the USA. But the inner-city Black-American gangs have exported their "liberal" culture to blacks outside the USA. And if they ever hook up with the CIA they will infect the entire black race across all planet earth.

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Main C, is fresh out of jail, and fighting to get out of the gang to be a father. Santos is lying low and wants to "become somebody" again. But leader Keylow holds the cards to both their fates. A jaw-dropping insight into the Dutch branch of the CRIPS gang, as well as into the workings of the criminal mind.

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Buzz62 said:

What is it your mother told you, when you came across a bully in elementary school?
Mine told me to ignore them and they'd go away. Then my dad added..."unless they hit you".

Is the Social Justice Warrior, and indeed the entire Politically Correct movement, having a positive or negative impact on Liberal politics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzc8glS2r_o

I have always cast my votes for the candidate who best reflects my opinions and beliefs at any given time. Thus I've voted Liberal, Conservative, and even once came close for voting for the NDP. But I had already had enough of the PC ever-lovin' SJW before Donny got elected, and after seeing the response to the last presidential election, and the ill feeling I get everytime I have to listen to Canada's PM Pixey-Dust, I'm presently a firm conservative vote.

I'm curious how other independents and centerists feel about this?

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I have voted for everythign under the moon and I will always remain a independent.

SJWs (whatever that is because its a made up term that many people define many ways) have as much impact to me voting liberal as gun banners and tree huggers do.

It has the same impact racists, abortion banners and anti-freedom/anti-equal rights religious extremists have on me voting conservative.

ZERO

I vote based on the person .. .. I dont judge a whole group based on extremists.

Buzz62 said:

What is it your mother told you, when you came across a bully in elementary school?
Mine told me to ignore them and they'd go away. Then my dad added..."unless they hit you".

Is the Social Justice Warrior, and indeed the entire Politically Correct movement, having a positive or negative impact on Liberal politics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzc8glS2r_o

I have always cast my votes for the candidate who best reflects my opinions and beliefs at any given time. Thus I've voted Liberal, Conservative, and even once came close for voting for the NDP. But I had already had enough of the PC ever-lovin' SJW before Donny got elected, and after seeing the response to the last presidential election, and the ill feeling I get everytime I have to listen to Canada's PM Pixey-Dust, I'm presently a firm conservative vote.

I'm curious how other independents and centerists feel about this?

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George Carlin said it best, "Political correctness is nothing but fascism with manners." SJW's are just another form of fascist.

Buzz62 said:

What is it your mother told you, when you came across a bully in elementary school?
Mine told me to ignore them and they'd go away. Then my dad added..."unless they hit you".

Is the Social Justice Warrior, and indeed the entire Politically Correct movement, having a positive or negative impact on Liberal politics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzc8glS2r_o

I have always cast my votes for the candidate who best reflects my opinions and beliefs at any given time. Thus I've voted Liberal, Conservative, and even once came close for voting for the NDP. But I had already had enough of the PC ever-lovin' SJW before Donny got elected, and after seeing the response to the last presidential election, and the ill feeling I get everytime I have to listen to Canada's PM Pixey-Dust, I'm presently a firm conservative vote.

I'm curious how other independents and centerists feel about this?

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Sjw types are a minority yet extemely vocal and in the case of antifa violent and act like brown shirts. In reality they are the worst thing for liberal politics, the vast majority of the country puts it at a lower priority, and puts the economy jobs and national security as higher priorities.

When things like abortion, xyz's groups rights and add any sjw cause or even any extreme christian muslim etc become top issues of politicians, it simply means they can not lead and need wedge issues to divide the people, since their own policy to fix the problem does not exist.

Every single social justice movement in modern times has faced a fierce backlash. Every single one. For example:







Deep down inside, we're the same humans as we've ever been. The only ones that can save us from ourselves and our tribal nature, is us.

Phys251 said:

Every single social justice movement in modern times has faced a fierce backlash. Every single one. For example:

Deep down inside, we're the same humans as we've ever been. The only ones that can save us from ourselves and our tribal nature, is us.

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And the fierce backlash has always been from conservatives, who always are resistant to change.