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Yes, Trump Is Winning

I would say you don't. Presidential races aren't one big race, they are 50 state by state races.


not in the least relevant. the polls showed her winning the election which she did. dont make things harder than they actually are.

your new word for today...

ad·di·tion
əˈdiSH(ə)n/Submit
noun
1.
the action or process of adding something to something else.
"the hotel has been extended with the addition of more rooms"
synonyms: adding, incorporation, inclusion, introduction
"the soil is improved by the addition of compost"
2.
the process or skill of calculating the total of two or more numbers or amounts.
"she began with simple arithmetic, addition and then subtraction"
 
not in the least relevant. the polls showed her winning the election which she did. dont make things harder than they actually are.
Winning the popular vote, which usually helps win the election, yes. Her margin of victory there was just about on target with the national polls in which she was between 2-4 points.

Winning the election, no.

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Winning the popular vote, which usually helps win the election, yes. Her margin of victory there was just about on target with the national polls in which she was between 2-4 points.

Winning the election, no.

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you are confused. she did indeed win the popular vote. really really simple.
 
Lol ! " Punt, defer ", I guess the Left got a little too comfortable with our last President playing fast and easy with the US Constitution.

Ironically, you guys would be demanding immediate impeachment of Trump and Pence if Trump did anything remotely comparable to DACA or the ACA subsidies.

DACA was illegal, the 7 billion dollars a year in ACA subidies to Insurers were illegal. He " punted " them back to Congress because thats were they belong

The ACA subsidies were passed in the ACA legislation and DACA was upheld by courts.

For the ACA, the subsidy payments not being appropriated by Congress on a routine basis may be an issue but the fact the subsidies exists, it's in legislation.


As for Trump doing the same and getting calls for impeachment ironically Bannon thinks impeachment will come from Republicans not Dems.
 
Trump supporters have learned not to believe polls. It’s great, though. Because the Left thinks they’re winning.

Trump is a lightening rod, not so much by what he is doing, his actions, but because of his persona, character. They don't like his obnoxious behavior and constant feuding, usually via twitter and what is considered by many, bullying tactics. Of those who disapprove of Trump, 65% based that disapproval on character, persona vs. 16% on the issues, policy.

Trump Disapproval Rooted in Character Concerns

As for polls, Trump supporters by ignoring them are doing so in my opinion at their own risk. They based Trump's victory in the electoral college as the polls being wrong. The electoral college wasn't covered by any polls. It was the nationwide popular vote that was. RCP average of all polls had Clinton winning the popular vote by 3 points nationwide, she won by 2 points. That fact states the polls weren't wrong. You can't get any closer considering most polls have a margin of error of plus or minus 3 points with some more than that.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Coupled with Trump's persona which really turns off independents, the fact that the democrats have been trying to destroy him since the day after the election, it is no surprise that his approval rating stays around 40%. When it comes to independents, Trump is his own worst enemy. Trump received 46% of the independent vote vs. 42% for Hillary with 12% voting third party. Today only 37% of independents have a favorable view of him, down from 48% at the end of January. Worst, only 24% of independents had an unfavorable view of Trump at the end of January, today that is up to 49%.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/zev5z2887d/econTabReport.pdf

It all boils down to his persona, his character, his loud mouth or should I say twitter use. His very unpresidential appearance and image. Independents agree with some of his policies, are against some and the rest are fairly split. It is his character, his unpresidential obnoxious persona where independents have turned against him. This doesn't bode well for Trump in the future and certainly not for next years midterms.
 
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you are confused. she did indeed win the popular vote. really really simple.
Yeah, I said as much--in greater detail than you did.

So what was that about confusion?

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not in the least relevant. the polls showed her winning the election which she did. dont make things harder than they actually are.

your new word for today...

The only one making things harder is you. Hillary Clinton did not win the election. Hence, why she is not the President.
 
not in the least relevant. the polls showed her winning the election which she did. dont make things harder than they actually are.

your new word for today...

ad·di·tion
əˈdiSH(ə)n/Submit
noun
1.
the action or process of adding something to something else.
"the hotel has been extended with the addition of more rooms"
synonyms: adding, incorporation, inclusion, introduction
"the soil is improved by the addition of compost"
2.
the process or skill of calculating the total of two or more numbers or amounts.
"she began with simple arithmetic, addition and then subtraction"


What was being discussed? Her chance at winning, not her share of the popular vote. If you cant even focus on what's being discussed, why should you mouth off like you know what you are talking about?
 
Can you be winning if you have a 32% approval rating, the FBI is investigating most of your administration including yourself, and your enemies are salivating over the specter of impeachment?
 
The ACA subsidies were passed in the ACA legislation and DACA was upheld by courts.

For the ACA, the subsidy payments not being appropriated by Congress on a routine basis may be an issue but the fact the subsidies exists, it's in legislation.


As for Trump doing the same and getting calls for impeachment ironically Bannon thinks impeachment will come from Republicans not Dems.

What court upheld DAPA/DACA?

The Supreme Court announced a 4-4 decision in a case
challenging President Obama’s plan to shield as many as five
million unauthorized immigrants from deportation and to
allow them to work in the United States. The decision leaves
in place an appeals court ruling blocking the president’s
ambitious plan, dealing a sharp blow to a program that Mr.
Obama had hoped would be one of his central legacies.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...by-supreme-court-decision-on-immigration.html
 
you are confused. she did indeed win the popular vote. really really simple.

You are confused. Hillary did indeed win the popular vote, but she lost the electoral college. Therefore, she lost the election.

Really, really simple.
 
Trump's aim appears to be to destroy everything Obama did out of spite, regardless of the damage to American people.

Maybe he just thinks Obama sucked.
 
I think simply tearing down is not a good policy. He has no ideas of his own and no solutions that are better. That is not good governing.

Sure it is, if policies you're tearing down are bad for the country. Stopping all energy exploration outside of green energy is stupid, since this energy isn't nearly mature enough. Obama was feeding his misguided warmer base.
 
Thats just silly. Trumps following through with the campaign promises that got him elected.

Thats how it works, whoever wins the Presidential election gets to implement their agenda. If ppl on the Left wanted their agenda implemented, they should hav run a better candidate.

And as far as hurting the American people ? Hurting the American people and America seemed to the be focus of the Obama agenda.
His agenda is a large part of the reason Trump was elected, and all of the reason the GOP won back the majorities in both Houses, and picked up 14 new Governors along the way

The Dems ran two highly corrupt establishment socialists.
 
The ACA subsidies were passed in the ACA legislation and DACA was upheld by courts.

For the ACA, the subsidy payments not being appropriated by Congress on a routine basis may be an issue but the fact the subsidies exists, it's in legislation.


As for Trump doing the same and getting calls for impeachment ironically Bannon thinks impeachment will come from Republicans not Dems.

Uhhhhh, No. The subsidies to insurers were NOT passed in the original law nor where they explicitly mentioned or insinuated or assumed.

If they were, why would Obama have bothered to go to Congress and ask them for these appropriations ?

Obama asked Congress for these appropriations in 2013 and when Congress refused, he ordered Jack Lew, his Teasury Secretary to draw these appropriations directly from the Treasury, which is a violation of the law.

DACA has not been unpheld by SCOTUS.

Its illegal, just like Obama's second attempt to flood this Nation with illegal immigrants ( DAPA ) at the expense of the American worker and the American people

The Presidents authority over our immigration laws are delegated to him by Congress, he does not have the authority to create or change law
 
Its gonna be sad for everybody when y'all realize you actually aren't winning and we're all losing so trump can fan his ego.
After enduring 8yrs of Obama the only direction left to go, is up

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And you don’t know that. Unless you are one of the tiny minority who’s even read the EO plus understands it, you are just taking the left’s word. And we know people never misrepresent to advance their own agenda, right!

Yeah, I do know that, probably better than the vast majority of posters here. You do know that the administration, under the direction of the HHS, has been steadily undermining the ACA's regime, including refusal to pay the CSR's (which many state EOs, including Kentucky and Illinois, are suing the administration over right now) and a 90% reduction of funds designed to recruit and maintain a steady supply of enrollees in any manner of health insurance providers, including Medicaid Expansion, right? Hell, the HHS has pissed off many conservative state governments by utterly refusing to provide outreach and support to states this year. Right now, my state, which used to have dozens of navigators (who help find plans that fit the requirements and needs of constituents, and often get them better deals in the process), now has the entire state covered by one guy. My office used to go to the prisons to get prisoners, an overwhelming majority of whom have drug addiction and/or mental health problems, ready to join Medicaid Expansion (because they have no income) in order to get treatment to reduce recidivism, because the state government wouldn't take care of it. That's gone. This is going on at the same time that my state, along with many other conservative states, are trying to do criminal justice reform to reduce the burden of prisons on the state budget. Not going to go well by next biennium.

Then the EO is going to shift the insurance market into healthier and non-healthy pools, with an estimated premium rate increase of about 12-15% next year.

And that's before we get into the impacts of either the AHCA/BCRA framework which the administration endorsed, or the proposed tax plan which slashes Medicaid funding by $1 trillion and Medicare funding by $400 million.

Playing ignorant, because of some vast abstract conspiracy that people who are different from you are going to concoct lies is a good way to remain ignorant.
 
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The case mentioned is about expansions to DACA. The original DACA was challenged by Sheriff Joe and the courts upheld the EO.

What " Court " upheld DACA ? Be specififc.

I know it never made it to the Supreme Court who allowed the 5th courts DAPA injunction to stand.
 
Trump supporters have learned not to believe anything that they don't agree with.
The media has taught us not to trust them. If they shown some objectivity in how they portray things they might be taken seriously. It's a classic case of the boy who cried wolf.

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