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Boy Scouts to admit girls into programs - 40 years to late for me

apdst said:
Girl Scouts is paced and oriented for girls. Boy Scouts is paced and oriented for boys. It's that simple. If you had a lazy troop leader, I don't know what to tell you.
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Sports and Competition is not Oriented ... come on, it's 2017
 
Cigar said:
Sports and Competition is not Oriented ... come on, it's 2017
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Well, yes it is. Not to mention, girls and boys perform at diffeeent levels. That's a biological reality. Leave it to the Liberals to deny science.
 
Cigar said:
The Boy Scouts of America will now allow girls to join the organization, the group announced Wednesday.

The organization’s board of directors unanimously voted to let girls into the Cub Scout program and create a program for older girls to allow them to become Eagle Scouts, the highest rank of scout, the group said in a release.

Girls will be allow to join the Cub Scouts in 2018 and the program for Eagle Scouts is projected to begin in 2019, according to the release. The troops will remain single-gender. The announcement was made on Oct. 11, the International Day of the Girl.

“The values of Scouting – trustworthy, loyal, helpful, kind, brave and reverent, for example – are important for both young men and women,” Michael Surbaugh, the Boy Scouts’ chief scout executive said in a release.



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Don't we already have "the girl scouts"


what is this going to be called "the boy scout girls"?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Don't we already have "the girl scouts"


what is this going to be called "the boy scout girls"?
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I exited the boy scouts quickly, but my impression was that the Girl Scouts were isolated to doing all of this domesticity ****, while the boys got to go camping, rafting, and all sorts of stuff.

If that's the case, GSA missed the boat. BSA would be smart to fill it.

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Both the BS and the GS have been dealing with plummeting participation, and increasingly need to make it nearly free for the families if they want the kids because it is not considered worth paying for.

IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE
 
My problem is; I went to Catholic Grade School and High School (not co-ed) ... then I went wild in College
 
Fiddytree said:
I exited the boy scouts quickly, but my impression was that the Girl Scouts were isolated to doing all of this domesticity ****, while the boys got to go camping, rafting, and all sorts of stuff.

If that's the case, GSA missed the boat. BSA would be smart to fill it.

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I don't care personally, I didn't even realize they were a different organization.
 
Cigar said:
The Boy Scouts of America will now allow girls to join the organization, the group announced Wednesday.

The organization’s board of directors unanimously voted to let girls into the Cub Scout program and create a program for older girls to allow them to become Eagle Scouts, the highest rank of scout, the group said in a release.

Girls will be allow to join the Cub Scouts in 2018 and the program for Eagle Scouts is projected to begin in 2019, according to the release. The troops will remain single-gender. The announcement was made on Oct. 11, the International Day of the Girl.

“The values of Scouting – trustworthy, loyal, helpful, kind, brave and reverent, for example – are important for both young men and women,” Michael Surbaugh, the Boy Scouts’ chief scout executive said in a release.



Read more: Boy Scouts to admit girls into programs | TheHill
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Why? We have the Girl Scouts. Weird. They should just have and Eagle Scout ranking in the Girl Scouts. The equivalent of the cub scouts are the Brownies. Unless that doesn't exist anymore, it's been awhile.
 
holbritter said:
I camped every year I was in Girl Scouts as well. Fun times!
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Man, we just must have some backward ass chapters out there. I knew plenty of girls over the decades in my area who were not happy selling cookies and were envious of the boy program.

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Fiddytree said:
Man, we just must have some backward ass chapters out there. I knew plenty of girls over the decades in my area who were not happy selling cookies and were envious of the boy program.

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Oh, we had to sell cookies too! Had to earn our patches and all that. It was mostly for domestic stuff and I'd like to see that changed. If they merge, how many parents are going to be happy with girls and boys camping together?
 
holbritter said:
Oh, we had to sell cookies too! Had to earn our patches and all that. It was mostly for domestic stuff and I'd like to see that changed. If they merge, how many parents are going to be happy with girls and boys camping together?
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Yeah, that's the thing. GSA should be at the forefront of the reform effort, but oddly enough, its the Boy Scouts taking charge.

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Tigerace117 said:
So I guess the Girl Scouts aren't a thing anymore?

Wouldn't it just make sense to merge the two if everyone was dead set on doing this?
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They could.

Or, they could stop assuming that girls in girl scouts only want to do things that were stereotypically girl things fifty years ago. I suspect any girls joining the boy scouts aren't doing it to make any sort of political statement. They just want to do the same hiking, camping, and survival-related activities. (I'm guessing).




Smells to me like a child's version of the grown-up fight about allowing women to serve in combat units.
 
holbritter said:
Oh, we had to sell cookies too! Had to earn our patches and all that. It was mostly for domestic stuff and I'd like to see that changed. If they merge, how many parents are going to be happy with girls and boys camping together?
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Eh, I don't see that it would be a big deal. It'd be on the scout leaders to watch out, just like it's on school officials/chaperones to watch out if they do a mixed-gender overnight trip anywhere.

I definitely recall some obnoxious 3-day excursion in grade school (5th or 6th grade maybe) to some camp, for some purpose. They split everyone up to sleep, but there weren't any issues.
 
The jamborees are going to be a lot more fun.
 
Mr Person said:
Eh, I don't see that it would be a big deal. It'd be on the scout leaders to watch out, just like it's on school officials/chaperones to watch out if they do a mixed-gender overnight trip anywhere.

I definitely recall some obnoxious 3-day excursion in grade school (5th or 6th grade maybe) to some camp, for some purpose. They split everyone up to sleep, but there weren't any issues.
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Yeah, on second thought your right. :)
 
ludin said:
the girl scouts have taken a huge hit lately.
the person in charges only concern was money.

it was just fundraiser after fundraiser and while the local girl troop would go camping and other things
it just got to much.

My wife hated all the running around.
then my daughter wouldn't get credit for the stuff she sold at the booths.

reminded me of that move The Boss. that would be a better deal for the girls than anything.
nope the organization sucked all the money up.
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Dang, it sounds like a freaking vaccum cleaner. In Cub Scouts we were supposed to sell stuff too but the emphasis wasn't really there and definitely wasn't there once Boy Scouts came around.
 
shagg said:
Competition, maybe this will drive down membership fees?

For some reason, an image of 8 year old girls with smudged faces wearing bandoliers fighting turf wars springs into my head
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That would be absolutely hilarious to be honest.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
I thought they already did that? Adventure Scouts is co-ed. I think they usually organized activities between of Girl and Boy Scout troops, but it's a co-ed Scouts.

Have to say I'm not entirely getting it. Like, ok, but I thought we already had this? I see value in both single-gender and co-ed Scouts, but between Girl/Boy Scouts and Adventure Scouts, that's really all the bases covered to me.
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They didn't really talk up Adventure Scouts all too much honestly. Even as we got older it was only really vaguely mentioned.
 
Cigar said:
The Boy Scouts of America will now allow girls to join the organization, the group announced Wednesday.

The organization’s board of directors unanimously voted to let girls into the Cub Scout program and create a program for older girls to allow them to become Eagle Scouts, the highest rank of scout, the group said in a release.

Girls will be allow to join the Cub Scouts in 2018 and the program for Eagle Scouts is projected to begin in 2019, according to the release. The troops will remain single-gender. The announcement was made on Oct. 11, the International Day of the Girl.

“The values of Scouting – trustworthy, loyal, helpful, kind, brave and reverent, for example – are important for both young men and women,” Michael Surbaugh, the Boy Scouts’ chief scout executive said in a release.



Read more: Boy Scouts to admit girls into programs | TheHill
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Why do girls need to be allowed to join the boy scouts? What's the problem with the girlscouts

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Tigerace117 said:
So I guess the Girl Scouts aren't a thing anymore?

Wouldn't it just make sense to merge the two if everyone was dead set on doing this?
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I asked myself the same question. Make scouting one coed organization

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Superfly said:
My girls were in Girl Scouts and hated it. They never did cool stuff like camping. They were always jealous because Boy Scouts got to do way cooler stuff than they did.
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My sister didn't do it. Don't know any Girl Scouts really. Isn't that more of a troop problem? If that is the cool thing...why aren't they doing it?
 
Superfly said:
My girls were in Girl Scouts and hated it. They never did cool stuff like camping. They were always jealous because Boy Scouts got to do way cooler stuff than they did.
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One of my customers is the girl scouts and I service the refrigeration on their camp grounds. They have really topnotch faculties. They do camp

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