With Elites Like These No Wonder We Need the Deep State

With Elites Like These No Wonder We Need the Deep State

On this second episode of Deep State Radio recorded in the sylvan beauty of Aspen, Colorado during the Ideas Festival, our regulars including Kori Schake of Stanford, David Sanger of the New York Times and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, explore a few of the top overheard high up in the Rockies. Then they ponder the nature of elites at events like Aspen and why it might be that they seem a bit out of touch sometimes with the reality of the average person. And if you think it's hypocritical for them to do that given that they were at Aspen or frequent events like it, forget it. The Deep State Radio gang fly commercial. On this episode we prove yet again that we are the people's elite. Pass the peanut butter and jelly canapés, please.

David Rothkopf: "Well, is there any main theme you're taking away from this?"
Ed Luce, FT: "Yes, I'm taking away the theme that politics has to work. Everybody seems to agree on that. But nobody can prescribe the course by which it ends up working. And that, to me, is, you know, that's where it's at. It's not the lack of ideas. It's the lack of the system's ability to get anywhere close to, er, executing these ideas. So, the focus is on what is it that's going to happen that's going to make politics sane again."
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DR: ..."Everyone's an old white guy, except some white guys bring their wives. But there's no diversity at these meetings."
DR: "How on earth do we have discussion of the planet without having representatives of the different groups of this world attending these meetings?"

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They then go into how the political elites in New York, Washington, and Silicon Valley have pioneered an issue of 'group-think' and 'sustainability'. And one of the hosts goes into another issue of foreign policy elites such as the NSC agreeing with each other instead of confronting one another over their opposing viewpoints, and the consolidating of political power into the hands of these elites is contributing to a lack of diversity in general.

With this day and age, I think these guys make a lot of sense. What say you? I need to go back and listen through it all the way from front to back, as the last time it played I had company over and only caught the tail end of it, and this time around I'm just to ancy to sit there for a half-hour and try to summarize the entire thing for an internet post. Just something that coalesced with my recent attempts to re-think everything I think/thought I knew/know about the geopolitical system that rules our species.

To make an addendum, I think the deep state (the U.S. one) is crucial for balancing against the over-politicization of events we go through and experience as a species. When you over-politicize, you get into the red zone of militancy....and we all know how closely military and industrialization are intertwined in the United States.

2:55...Main theme this year in Aspen is that politics has to work but no one can figure out how to get it to work

Sure, because it has been for so long mis-managed by people who dont give a **** about systems working, they have been looking out for #1.


7:00....Biggest problems with this event: GroupThink, Careerism and BS.... "Do we want to have a discussion, Cant we shut off the nonsense for awhile and talk honestly?"

Well there you have what I have been talking about for a long time...just how badly the elite class sucks....No we cant do that, because that would get in the way of these people scheming for themselves, because it is them and their friends who matter, not the rest of us.

I stopped at 12:00, the constant fretting about the lack of diversity "If only these events had the rainbows we like then everything would be great" is depressing. Lack of diversity is not the main problem, lack of will to make America a better place is the problem. Also I am getting whiplash from "The ideas here are GREAT!" and " This is the same BS we have heard hundreds of times in dozens of places over the years, there is no point to doing this" (Paraphrased Natch).

It is disappointing but not a shock that this thread went no where, the bankruptcy of the Elite Class is way too scary for most people to even contemplate, even when we have such clear admissions as this.

Hawkeye10 said:

I stopped at 12:00, the constant fretting about the lack of diversity "If only these events had the rainbows we like then everything would be great" is depressing. Lack of diversity is not the main problem, lack of will to make America a better place is the problem. Also I am getting whiplash from "The ideas here are GREAT!" and " This is the same BS we have heard hundreds of times in dozens of places over the years, there is no point to doing this" (Paraphrased Natch).

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This isn't just about America, though. They mentioned Davos as well, which is in Switzerland... (I am also sure they were talking about Bilderberg as well, which was founded in the Netherlands).