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Kasich: If GOP "can't be fixed," I can't support it

Perotista said:
RINO? There are a few Republicans who oppose Trump, the eight time party switcher and view him more as an opportunistic interloper. Not as a true Republican. RINO usually means any Republican you disagree his views with. So I always take that with a grain of salt. What is interesting is that Trump has had since he took office around 75-80% of Republicans approving of him. That shouldn't be a surprise, you have the never-Trumpers during the primaries and all the needless feuds Trump started with lifelong loyal Republicans. The anti-Trumpers average only around 10-15% of the GOP. They still do. Trump has never made an attempt to unite the party, like he said he can win without them and did. By contrast, Obama ranged between a high of 92% to a low of 88% approval from Democrats for his first nine months of his presidency vs. Trump's 75-80% from Republicans.

The difference seems to be that back in 2009 Obama did all he could to unify the Democrats, Trump hasn't done the same. This most likely makes Trump's supporters very happy, but making no attempt to unify the party or to gain additional supporters will harm Trump's ability to govern effectively and to get things done he wants to accomplish in the future, the long term much more difficult.
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Yeah, he's a rino.
He said: “To me, it is conservative to say everyone is made in the image of God and everyone deserves a chance. And sometimes, if they’re not being helped any other way, then we’ve got to get the government to partner and to help these folks,” Newsmax reported.
Mr. Kasich suggested that those who criticize his views as left-leaning, and who attempt to label him a RINO, aren’t acting in accordance with the biblically based command to help the needy, Newsmax said.
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John Kasich: I'm not a RINO ? I just care about people - Washington Times

He uses government with religion, which should annoy the hell out of people backing him. Government as a solution to life's little problems...
 
You do have a faction that calls themselves religious conservatives or social conservatives. But Here: Conservatives are the new RINO's.

Conservatives Are The New RINOs

What has happened with the word or phrase RINO which originally meant not conservative enough has now has a new meaning, Not a Trump supporter within the GOP. Never mind most of those who opposed Trump were far more conservative. It seems Trump supporters have thrown their support for conservatism out the window to supporting a man who really has no ideology. You seen that during the primaries, Trump supporters calling him a nationalist, a populist and even a nativist. Anything but a conservative. The only faction in the GOP during the primaries Trump lost was conservatives.
 
Have you seen the way Kasich eats? That's from Trump ya know.

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Renae said:
Trump is Trump. He's his own animal, I didn't vote for him so what's your point? I pointed out he was a dem first then a republican. I like some things he backs and does and some things he does and backs I hate. Much like any President.

Kasich has been antagonistic towards most conservative platforms, the only thing he does I like, is lower taxes.
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You were criticizing one phony republican who loves big government while ignoring another phony republican who loves big government.
 
jamesrage said:
You were criticizing one phony republican who loves big government while ignoring another phony republican who loves big government.
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Whatever, you tried to paint me as a Trumper to disparage me and got smacked for it
 
Kasich is right. He’s a decent conservative and knows there’s a problem. He knows there is a problem with the alt right and rightfully doesn’t want anything to do with those people. People like Trump however embrace them.
 
If people like Kasich leave the GOP, I might actually register as GOP.


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Please Kasich run. Split that Midwestern white vote.

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Puigb said:
You guys are hilarious. Sane Republicans like Kasich are RINO's, but Trump is what exactly? "A real Conservative"?
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It's more like 'One State" Kasich is a loser & Trump is a winner. Now that Kasich is blasting Trump at every chance, he's vying for
the favorite Republican with McCain among those championing the leftwing dogma.

101 Donald Trump wins Presidential Election 2020 +230
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Anagram said:
In what ways has he shifted? I haven't followed him too closely, but he seems pretty substantially conservative almost everywhere, from what I've gleaned looking at his most recent positions. Turning the state's deficit into a surplus, cutting taxes, signing bill to defund planned parenthood in Ohio, against gay marriage (although admitting that it's a decided issue), most recently getting an A from the NRA, opposing admission of Syrian refugees. The only big issues I see him departing on are immigration and his working with Hickenlooper on health care. And of course constantly criticizing Trump's tone, although that's not really a substantive issue.

But I'm not an Ohio resident, nor have I spent much time investigating him over the past few years, so I'm probably deficient in some of the specifics of his governorship.
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He's a big Obamacare backer and an amnesty guy for starters.
 
Renae said:
He's a big Obamacare backer and an amnesty guy for starters.
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I believe I mentioned that.

The only big issues I see him departing on are immigration and his working with Hickenlooper on health care.
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Although I think it's a bit much to declare him actually an Obamacare backer.

But I don't think that's near enough by itself to make somebody a RINO or especially substantially a Democrat. And everything else I've seen has him being fairly a fairly consistent conservative.
 
Anagram said:
I believe I mentioned that.



Although I think it's a bit much to declare him actually an Obamacare backer.

But I don't think that's near enough by itself to make somebody a RINO or especially substantially a Democrat. And everything else I've seen has him being fairly a fairly consistent conservative.
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You did, and I misread your post, I apologize.

Here, I know it's a partisan source but it breaks down a bit more:
In criticizing conservatives who opposed his expansion of Medicaid through Obamacare, Kasich complains that fighting them is like fighting ISIS. When discussing the ten to twenty million foreign nationals in the country illegally, Kasich declares that we need to let them stay.

He favors gun control, Common Core, a pathway to citizenship for illegals, and same-sex marriage.

It’s as if Kasich believes the way to win the Republican nomination is to insult Republican voters, lecture and berate them for not being Liberal enough, and then pretend that God is on his side.

I don’t know about you, but I’m stunned that any of the GOP candidates would think that running to the Left of Jeb Bush would be a winning strategy.

But what I find particularly off-putting about John Kasich is his using the Bible to defend his Liberalism.
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John Kasich: Proud RINO
 
Mr Person said:
The strange thing is that people who identify on the right tend to say this kind of thing, but then claim it's "the left" that's divisive.


I must assume they own mirrors. Do they use them?
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I assume that out of context strawmen and gotcha plays are all you are intellectually capable of?
 
Renae said:
I assume that out of context strawmen and gotcha plays are all you are intellectually capable of?
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Let me guess. You're a "get the big bad government out of my VA benefits" kind of gal. Amirite?
 
All Kasich needs is 5% to insure a democratic victory​. You all do know that
You surely know that. Don't You.

The only chance Kasich has of actually being POTUS is if Trump quits, impeached, or imprisoned. Y'all are so confused. Politicians your not.

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calamity said:
Let me guess. You're a "get the big bad government out of my VA benefits" kind of gal. Amirite?
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I hate the VA, it's a mess, never been into one for a reason.
 
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