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Tigerace117 said:
Which is completely false,
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No it's not.
as Adolf Hitler and his cronies were rather explicitly not left wing. You are the one engaging in revionist history right now.
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Sure by Euro-trash standards Hitler is right wing. But in America no self respecting right winger is a socialist of any kind. The fact that Hitler is a mass murdering fascist does not change the fact that so were Moa and Stalin.The only difference is that Moa and Stalin were fascist who committed mass genocide for political reasons while Hitler did it do for Eugenics and racist reasons. Mao has a higher body count than Hitler. Stalin has higher body count than Hitler.
 
jamesrage said:
No it's not.



Sure by Euro-trash standards Hitler is right wing. But in America no self respecting right winger is a socialist of any kind. The fact that Hitler is a mass murdering fascist does not change the fact that so were Moa and Stalin.The only difference is that Moa and Stalin were fascist who committed mass genocide for political reasons while Hitler did it do for Eugenics and racist reasons. Mao has a higher body count than Hitler. Stalin has higher body count than Hitler.
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Yes, it is completely and utterly false, no matter what your revionist history website might claim.

Adolf was very far right by anyone's standards, which is why generations of worthless hicks in the south and out west still love him. You see Nazi and Confederate flags routinely flown together and have been for decades.

Hitler wasn't a socialist any more than North Korea is a democracy.

No, Mao and Stalin were not fascists. They were communists.

Ah, the age old right wing attempt to redeem Hitler because two other men have higher body counts than him.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Yes, it is completely and utterly false, no matter what your revionist history website might claim.

Adolf was very far right by anyone's standards, which is why generations of worthless hicks in the south and out west still love him. You see Nazi and Confederate flags routinely flown together and have been for decades.

Hitler wasn't a socialist any more than North Korea is a democracy.

No, Mao and Stalin were not fascists. They were communists.

Ah, the age old right wing attempt to redeem Hitler because two other men have higher body counts than him.
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Its well known fact that Moa and Stalin are mass murdering fascists. Leftist usually try to resort to some bull **** excuse of "but they weren't real communists/socialists. Here you are trying to deny history of two of the worlds top mass murdering fascist of the 20th century. Hitler is only right by Euro-trash standards.The fact that nazi flags are sometimes flown with confederate flags only prove racists of different ideologies like to hang out together for a racist goal. Racism isn't tied to only to the left or only to the right.Wanting free **** from the government at the expense of another person's wallet is a trait shared by racist left and non-racist left alike.
 
jamesrage said:
Its well known fact that Moa and Stalin are mass murdering fascists. Leftist usually try to resort to some bull **** excuse of "but they weren't real communists/socialists. Here you are trying to deny history of two of the worlds top mass murdering fascist of the 20th century. Hitler is only right by Euro-trash standards.The fact that nazi flags are sometimes flown with confederate flags only prove racists of different ideologies like to hang out together for a racist goal. Racism isn't tied to only to the left or only to the right.Wanting free **** from the government at the expense of another person's wallet is a trait shared by racist left and non-racist left alike.
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No, it is not "a well known fact" because Stalin and Mao were communists, not fascists. Socialists and fascists are not even close to the same thing. Your incoherent raving and promoting of revionist history is funny, but you haven't actually provided any, well, evidence.

Hitler was far right wing by everyone's standards.

And no, the Confederacy was not part of "the left".
 
Chomsky said:
Whenever you feel the need to hide your identity when making a public political statement, whether KKK or Antifa, you're obviously doing it wrong. And you're a coward, too!
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Indeed. But they are not wearing masks to hide their public political statement. They are wearing them to avoid being identified by the law.
 
fmw said:
Indeed. But they are not wearing masks to hide their public political statement. They are wearing them to avoid being identified by the law.
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Exactly!
 
Tigerace117 said:
Yes, it is completely and utterly false, no matter what your revionist history website might claim.

Adolf was very far right by anyone's standards, which is why generations of worthless hicks in the south and out west still love him. You see Nazi and Confederate flags routinely flown together and have been for decades.

Hitler wasn't a socialist any more than North Korea is a democracy.

No, Mao and Stalin were not fascists. They were communists.

Ah, the age old right wing attempt to redeem Hitler because two other men have higher body counts than him.
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To correct you by the political scale hitler was moderate authoritarian, as he was socially conservative and economically liberal. You can literally google this stuff, it is not hiding anywhere.
 
beerftw said:
To correct you by the political scale hitler was moderate authoritarian, as he was socially conservative and economically liberal. You can literally google this stuff, it is not hiding anywhere.
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Adolf Hitler was not "mildly authoritarian". He built an oppressive police state with a half a dozen different groups of heavily armed thugs running around rounding up innocent people to be shipped off to death camps.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Adolf Hitler was not "mildly authoritarian". He built an oppressive police state with a half a dozen different groups of heavily armed thugs running around rounding up innocent people to be shipped off to death camps.
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I never once said mildly, I said moderate, meaning he never strayed to far into either the left or right axis, but in terms of libertarian and authoritarian scale he was at the top of the authoritarian scale. Economically hitler would have been similar to marx in terms of being really far on the left scale, and it gets balanced out by him being extremely far right on social issues.

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Carjosse said:
That would be impossible, Communism and Fascism are two very distinct ideologies with very different and opposing goals. They both love big government but that is where it ends.
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two strains of the main disease, the creeping crud of collectivism. the body counts tend to be the same
 
beerftw said:
I never once said mildly, I said moderate, meaning he never strayed to far into either the left or right axis, but in terms of libertarian and authoritarian scale he was at the top of the authoritarian scale. Economically hitler would have been similar to marx in terms of being really far on the left scale, and it gets balanced out by him being extremely far right on social issues.

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Yet he was literally a brutal dictator who enslaved and murdered millions. There is nothing "moderate" about that.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Yet he was literally a brutal dictator who enslaved and murdered millions. There is nothing "moderate" about that.
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If you do not like the word moderate dictator, you can call him a centrist dictator then. Either way the political spectrum has 4 directions not two and hitlers position on that scale is well known, and it was not far right or to the left, it was slightly right of center highly authoritarian.
 
beerftw said:
If you do not like the word moderate dictator, you can call him a centrist dictator then. Either way the political spectrum has 4 directions not two and hitlers position on that scale is well known, and it was not far right or to the left, it was slightly right of center highly authoritarian.
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There's no such thing as a "moderate dictator" especially the man who is one of the greatest mass murderers of all time.
 
Tigerace117 said:
No, it is not "a well known fact" because Stalin and Mao were communists, not fascists. Socialists and fascists are not even close to the same thing. Your incoherent raving and promoting of revionist history is funny, but you haven't actually provided any, well, evidence.

Hitler was far right wing by everyone's standards.

And no, the Confederacy was not part of "the left".
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Communists and socialists can be fascist too.Stalin and Mao demonstrated through their regimes and mass genocide. Hitler is only far right by eurotrash standards because no self respecting American right winger is a socialist. It amazes me how leftist like yourself try to defend such mass murdering fascists.
 
jamesrage said:
Communists and socialists can be fascist too.Stalin and Mao demonstrated through their regimes and mass genocide. Hitler is only far right by eurotrash standards because no self respecting American right winger is a socialist. It amazes me how leftist like yourself try to defend such mass murdering fascists.
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No buddy, communists and socialists are on the opposite side of the spectrum from fascists. The two are mutually exclusive.

Amazingly, fascists, who are right wing, also committed genocide. Amazing, I know.

Except tons of self respecting American right wingers both during his reign and since have supported Adolf, so your premise is historically ignorant.

Its amazing to me how "conservatives" like you can't seem to learn even the slightest bit about history.
 
Tigerace117 said:
No buddy, communists and socialists are on the opposite side of the spectrum from fascists. The two are mutually exclusive.

Amazingly, fascists, who are right wing, also committed genocide. Amazing, I know.

Except tons of self respecting American right wingers both during his reign and since have supported Adolf, so your premise is historically ignorant.

Its amazing to me how "conservatives" like you can't seem to learn even the slightest bit about history.
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I am amazed how leftists like yourself like to live in denial .Mao and Stalin were brutal mass murder fascist and communist.There are no ifs ands or buts about.No self respecting American right winger supports socialism of any kind including National socialism. Although I admit that you are the right leftists who didn't use the "But they weren't real communists/socialist excuse with Mao and Stalin.
 
jamesrage said:
I am amazed how leftists like yourself like to live in denial .Mao and Stalin were brutal mass murder fascist and communist.There are no ifs ands or buts about.No self respecting American right winger supports socialism of any kind including National socialism. Although I admit that you are the right leftists who didn't use the "But they weren't real communists/socialist excuse with Mao and Stalin.
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It's really easy, actually---all you need to do is reject the idiotic revisionist history people like you spew and, what do you know, sanity.

No, they were not "fascists and communists". The two are mutually exclusive.

National socialism isn't even socialism to begin with, and a ton of American right wingers not only did support Adolf but continue to do so.

But it's funny that you think people like Henry Ford are "leftists".
 
Tigerace117 said:
It's really easy, actually---all you need to do is reject the idiotic revisionist history people like you spew and, what do you know, sanity.

No, they were not "fascists and communists". The two are mutually exclusive.

National socialism isn't even socialism to begin with, and a ton of American right wingers not only did support Adolf but continue to do so.

But it's funny that you think people like Henry Ford are "leftists".
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I heard the leftist lie that they weren't real socialists and other garbage like that you leftist like to spew in order to make communism and socialism not seem as bad..American right wingers don't support socialism of any kind including national socialism. There might be some left leaning and right leaning racist who support Hitler's racist view, but that doesn't mean they support all the other ideological nonsense he espoused.
 
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