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Worst President Ever by Far

My point was he made it very clear how bad he was during the campaign, but Republican voters didn't care, their politics came before country.

Hillary wasn't great I'll agree, but objectively by every standard she was better than Trump.

Conservative voters... Largely just didn't care.
I don't think that's true.

I've seen quite a few conservatives on this board that don't like him. They won't crossover to Dems, that's for sure. But they don't like Trump. In a way, they're kinda' left in a no man's land.
 
I don't believe Trump is acting out malice. If he was seeking power for its own sake, he wouldn't shake up the establishment that empowers him. I think he ran with an idealistic mindset and bit off more than he could chew, in addition to being generally impulsive.
It's always been my opinion that he initially ran a PR stunt, and then unexpectedly got catapulted to the GOP pole position in a matter of a month or two. By then, there was nothing to do but keep on keepin' on, and here we are!
 
It's always been my opinion that he initially ran a PR stunt, and then unexpectedly got catapulted to the GOP pole position in a matter of a month or two. By then, there was nothing to do but keep on keepin' on, and here we are!

And now the poor SOB has the job.
 
Approval rating above 40% and going up, refusing to quit, trying to keep his word to those who listened to him at the Rallies.....to those who believed in him and propelled him to this amazing honor...

PRETTY ****ING AWESOME
I predicted the Harvey and debt ceiling deals with the Dems would do that.

If the current ACA repeal fails, watch for Trump to do more Dem deals, which is fine by me if they're good deals.
 
It's always been my opinion that he initially ran a PR stunt, and then unexpectedly got catapulted to the GOP pole position in a matter of a month or two. By then, there was nothing to do but keep on keepin' on, and here we are!

If he was doing it for publicity, wouldn't he aim for an inoffensive mainstream appeal? He instead tried to be as provocative as possible and damaged the value of his brand.
 
This is the crux of the matter. The dems and their game of shoving Hillary to the top resulted in the backlash that is Trump. He wasn't my favorite candidate either, but Hillary was simply the worst of the worst. The GOP should have pushed Rand up but the field was so large and diverse, and none really stood above. Trump played it like a pro.

What the media should do now, in my opinion, is treat Trump as the media treated Lyndon Johnson -- by not reporting all the outrageous things he said. That would drop the drama level dramatically.
I think it's fair to say, the Dem's fielding a terribly weak candidate is complicitly responsible for giving us President Trump!
 
And now the poor SOB has the job.
Absolutely.

And only he knows if he really wanted it? Once he got moving and more organized in his campaign though, I think he came around to really wanting the job. I'm not sure if he thought he'd win, but by the latter stages I think he wanted it.
 
If he was doing it for publicity, wouldn't he aim for an inoffensive mainstream appeal? He instead tried to be as provocative as possible and damaged the value of his brand.
I say no.

Offense and provocativity, particularly provocativity, is his brand!

He was a Birther for years, and before that he fought with Rosie O'donnell. He's a reality star, that thrives on controversy!
 
He has put together a coalition that may be hard to beat. You put together the ignorant, racist, gun nutters, religious right, easily fooled (bengazi types), islamophobes, homophobes and anything to piss off a liberal even if it hurts himself types you may not get enough people on the same page to beat them.

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Please help me with your 'coalition?' Who are you referring to?
 
Absolutely.

And only he knows if he really wanted it? Once he got moving and more organized in his campaign though, I think he came around to really wanting the job. I'm not sure if he thought he'd win, but by the latter stages I think he wanted it.

Quite probably. I doubt he had any idea of what he was getting himself into.
 
Trump is what happens when the GOP allowed itself to be taken over by right libertarians and tea party malcontents expecting that they could use them the same way they used the religious right for election after election. They were wrong. Now they are in bed with diseased extremism and the entire world sits on the brink of disaster.
 
When the only people left who like you are White Supremacists, you may want to get ready to see your name at the very bottom of the list. Dotard Trump, what a clown he is proving himself to be.

:coffeepap
 
I can't say Trump is the worst president ever but I can say that he was a better candidate than a president so far. The thing is, if not for Hillary being such a total disaster, he likely would not be in office.


it's the whole, "it's Hillary's fault" thing ....... I have actually seen quite a few folks here @ DP state that but that is nothing more than some warped delusion .......
 
When the only people left who like you are White Supremacists, you may want to get ready to see your name at the very bottom of the list. Dotard Trump, what a clown he is proving himself to be.


I think the only person left that really likes Don Cheeto as POTUS is Kim Un; he gets to manipulate Trump like a puppet & of course, Trump falls for the whole mess .......
 
When the only people left who like you are White Supremacists, you may want to get ready to see your name at the very bottom of the list. Dotard Trump, what a clown he is proving himself to be.

For me, in my lifetime with presidents I have personally experienced, I would say Eisenhower was the best, Carter the worst. Although I really liked Jimmy and voted for him twice. But hind sight gives me a different perspective. I'm not about to try to rate Trump at this point, less than a year into his presidency. He does have the lowest average approval rating of any president for his first 8 months in office. But what exactly does that mean? Truman left office with a 32% approval rating, now he is rated as a near great president. Just below Washington, Lincoln and FDR. In fact, Truman at one point in 1951 had an approval rating of just 22% and finished with an average of 45% for his presidency. Here's the list excluding Trump which is still in office.

Obama Highest 69% Lowest 38% Average 47.9%
Bush (G.W.) Highest 90% Lowest 25% Average 49.4%
Clinton Highest 73% Lowest 37% Average 55.1%
Bush (G.H.W.) Highest 89% Lowest 29% Average 60.9%
Reagan Highest 68% lowest 35% Average 52.8%
Carter Highest 75% Lowest 28% Average 45.5%
Ford Highest 71% Lowest 37% Average 47.2%
Nixon Highest 67% Lowest 24% Average 49.1%
Johnson Highest 79% Lowest 35% Average 55.1%
Kennedy Highest 83% Lowest 56% Average 70.1%
Eisenhower Highest 79% Lowest 48% Average 65.0%
Truman Highest 87% Lowest 22% Average 45.4%
Roosevelt Highest 84% Lowest 48% No average available as approval ratings began in 1937 and FDR took office in March of 1933.

Historians will tell you that it takes at least 20 years after a president leaves office before they can give that president a fairly accurate rating. That give it time for the partisan effect to die down and for Historians to view how a president's policies effected this nation after he is gone.

Public opinion reflects how a president is seen today while in office which changes constantly.
 
When the only people left who like you are White Supremacists, you may want to get ready to see your name at the very bottom of the list. Dotard Trump, what a clown he is proving himself to be.

Oh!

I thought this thread was going to be about Obama or Bush.
 
it's the whole, "it's Hillary's fault" thing ....... I have actually seen quite a few folks here @ DP state that but that is nothing more than some warped delusion .......

During the republicant primaries there was a chance for the conservative (Cruz) to beat Trump but the rest of the field split the "not Cruz" vote such that Trump came out on top.
 
Trump is what happens when the GOP allowed itself to be taken over by right libertarians and tea party malcontents expecting that they could use them the same way they used the religious right for election after election. They were wrong. Now they are in bed with diseased extremism and the entire world sits on the brink of disaster.

Trump is what happens when both parties turn to foolishness instead of good strong values.
I didn't really care much for him at first, but I thought he would be a good joke on both parties were he to win.
Now everyday I get to watch the news and have a great laugh as Trump totally messes with the status quo and watch both parties writhe under the pain. It's really a wonderfullness.
And he is doing what I would want him to do for the most part, and that is icing on the Trump cake.
It is all pure awesomeness.

I am not an alt-righter either. Damned commies.....
 
Trump is what happens when both parties turn to foolishness instead of good strong values.
I didn't really care much for him at first, but I thought he would be a good joke on both parties were he to win.
Now everyday I get to watch the news and have a great laugh as Trump totally messes with the status quo and watch both parties writhe under the pain. It's really a wonderfullness.
And he is doing what I would want him to do for the most part, and that is icing on the Trump cake.
It is all pure awesomeness.

I am not an alt-righter either. Damned commies.....

A chimpanzee would mess with the status quo, but I wouldn't want one as President.
 
8 months later and you people are still crying.


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More like, 8 months later and we still can't believe so many people were dumb enough to elect this guy.
 
More like, 8 months later and we still can't believe so many people were dumb enough to elect this guy.

Youve got 7 more years of this. I don't think you are going to make it.
 
My point was he made it very clear how bad he was during the campaign, but Republican voters didn't care, their politics came before country.

Hillary wasn't great I'll agree, but objectively by every standard she was better than Trump.

Conservative voters... Largely just didn't care.

As bad as Hillary may have been, I doubt many of us would be wondering today if the country could survive four years of her. As for the Dotard, I am certainly no longer 100% sure we can.
 
Right, luckily we got a good Pres, not a Marxist.

Right. So what has he done to be a good President?

Was it insulting the parents of fallen soldiers? The ***** grabbing? The twitter spats with celebrities?
 
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