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How cn some people be so dumb, blind, whatever!

AGENT J said:
1.) well that would just make your "feelings" wrong twice because i have zero frustration over this matter because you claim is factually wrong. You are the only one that hasnt been able to support your claim.
2.) LMAO now THATS a sign of frustration
3.) when did i say you HAVE to care? You are 100% free not to care about voting thats your choice. I have no motivation to change you from such an illogical thing.
4.) that doesnt mean we cant complain about it. This country also kills people we deem threats on a legal level and in the military. That doesnt mean we cant complain if its dont to us that again is simply illogical.
5.) it factually did happen we just dont know the extent, are you now claiming you are in the minority that feel nothing happened with Russia trying to influence or interfere?
6.) why would i be "mad" at obama? I mad that its happening. are you claiming now it DID happened, he knew, he didnt do anything about it and he could of? Cant wait to read that story!
7.) for somebody that say they believe they are smarter than the average bear you know NOTHING you just posted changes the fact you posted a strawman right? Guess you dont know what that is.

You arguing that people should be mad at obama for reasons you claim is the strawman
Why?
because "I" NEVER brought up obama or being mad at ANYBODY let alone any president or claimed i would or wouldn't be mad at them.

I simply said I care (like many americans do) if a foreign country influence or interfered in our elections and the proves your claim wrong :shrug:
So here we are, your claim is wrong and you did post a strawman :shrug:
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OK, fine.
 
AGENT J said:
1.) oh seemed like you were, my mistake
2.) i dont think its very normal at all. I think those people are still in the minority.
I could agree with the phrase "Not uncommon" ;)
3.) THis i do agree with, it id definitely a factor
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Not uncommon will do.
 
SheWolf said:
Cyber security is always evolving. It isn't just about the government. This kind of stuff hits private sectors and regular people too. Not caring about cyber security, not saying you don't care, but ignoring it would be a serious mistake. We all want to protect our IDs, bank accounts, and everything else hackers could potentially exploit.
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There is nothing that's ever going to be foolproof. Our information is out there whether we want it to be or not. Equifax being hacked is a classic example of that. Did you ever give Equifax your permission to collect data on you? Track your purchases? Tell them they had your permission to share their algorithmed credit score on you with anyone else? It's all out there. "They" do the best they can to keep their records on you secure. But they fail and will continue to fail.

But back to the Russians interfering with our election. Tell me how they interfered. There's this bogeyman out there that says, "OMG! They interfered!" What do you know about it? How did they do it? What did they do? I don't care because they didn't vote. Or at least they wouldn't be ABLE to vote if we had to actually prove we are who we say we are when we went to the polls. But a segment of the population doesn't even think THAT'S important.

Have you seen one of these ads they supposedly purchased? Can we stop those ads, or does our Constitution say everyone has free speech? What have we learned that suddenly strikes fear in our hearts that the Russians interfered? Show me that, and I may be concerned. Until then? *shrug*.
 
Perotista said:
Not uncommon will do.
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well sadly i think its true. Not sure how we change it or even if it can be changed especially with lots of types of media perpetuating it.
 
AGENT J said:
well sadly i think its true. Not sure how we change it or even if it can be changed especially with lots of types of media perpetuating it.
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I don't think we can change it. Maybe the best way is to set the example. Now there will always be people who can't stand someone being a bit different or thinking different. People who need to force their ideas, their way of life, their ideology on others. If there weren't we wouldn't have any wars and everyone would be at peace. In theory anyway since it has never happened.
 
Perotista said:
1.)I don't think we can change it.
2.)Maybe the best way is to set the example.
3.) Now there will always be people who can't stand someone being a bit different or thinking different. People who need to force their ideas, their way of life, their ideology on others. If there weren't we wouldn't have any wars and everyone would be at peace. In theory anyway since it has never happened.
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1.) I agree, i think it can only be subdued or controlled to an extent.
2.) I agree with this too, this IS the best way but the different forms of media and poor upbringing makes this a challenge. Luckily many people do break the cycle.
3.) unfortunately also true and not "uncommon" :)
 
AGENT J said:
1.) I agree, i think it can only be subdued or controlled to an extent.
2.) I agree with this too, this IS the best way but the different forms of media and poor upbringing makes this a challenge. Luckily many people do break the cycle.
3.) unfortunately also true and not "uncommon" :)
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You're right, a lot of what we see has to do with either poor parenting or none at all.
 
MaggieD said:
1.OK,
2. fine.
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1. Ok????? You think russian collusion is ok. Facts say your wrong.
2.No it is not fine I mean you can believe it fine but your wrong:shrug:

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 
independentusa said:
Polls show that 35% of American People still don't believe that the Russians tried to influence our election. I am not talking about the collusion issue, there is no positive proof either way, did or did not. What I am saying is that with all of the stuff that has been uncovered, including the Facebook ads, 35% of people still think that the Russians did nothing to attempt to influence the election. Are they dumb, blind or whatever? Sometimes I wonder if the nation has been so dumbed down that there is no hope for us.
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What are you going on about? Didn't the United States Government try to influence the Israeli elections fairly recently.

The USA has been interfering in electoral voting around the globe for the past 100 years.

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Carleen said:
We should all care. Cyber security needs to be addressed and we need to be more aware of the consequences of interfering with our government or any government.
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Yes, we should. All it took was Trump and Russia to bring a common practice among countries to peoples attention. It should change the way cyber security is looked at, at least in government channels. The public sector seem to pretty much know cyber security in this (and other) countries suck.
 
X Factor said:
1. Ok????? You think russian collusion is ok. Facts say your wrong.
2.No it is not fine I mean you can believe it fine but your wrong:shrug:

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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:lamo
 
independentusa said:
Polls show that 35% of American People still don't believe that the Russians tried to influence our election. I am not talking about the collusion issue, there is no positive proof either way, did or did not. What I am saying is that with all of the stuff that has been uncovered, including the Facebook ads, 35% of people still think that the Russians did nothing to attempt to influence the election. Are they dumb, blind or whatever? Sometimes I wonder if the nation has been so dumbed down that there is no hope for us.
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A significant number of republicans thought and still think Iraq had something to do with 9/11. A significant number of republicans thought (and still think) Obama was foreign born. The OP is not surprising.
 
SheWolf said:
35% is roughly the size of Trump's base. That should explain it.
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Its also about as many as democrats there are, maybe that explains it.

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MaggieD said:
See, the thing is, when all is said and done, aside from any possible collusion that may or may not have happened, well, I could just go on and on... But the upshot is that nobody cares except Teump bashers.

And if that weren't the truth, when Obama found out about it during his term? These same people who bash Trump about it thought nothing about his failure. It happened on his watch. Guess where the buck stops??
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The whole russian meddling thing wasn't an issue while they thought clinton was going to win. after she lost only then did it become a big deal.
 
SheWolf said:
I don't care what Hillary would have wanted. If investigators saw some evidence of anybody colluding with a foreign, hostile government, that should be looked into. What kind of American citizen would be comfortable with foreign governments trying to control our elections, elected officials, and the direction of our country?
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Do you think facebook should be investigated for accepting foreighin funding to spread propaganda. Isnt that collusion?

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SheWolf said:
It's not just anti Trump people. It's important to people who understand the danger of a foreign, hostile government interfering with our elections.
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yet that meddling had little impact according to most sources out there including intelligence.
if it was such a huge deal why didn't obama do something about it when he learned of it? ol yea because
clinton was supposed to win.

lol they didn't scream russia until after she lost.
then all of a sudden it becomes an outrage.

there was no tampering of votes and from all
account people voted how they intended to vote.
 
X Factor said:
1. Ok????? You think russian collusion is ok. Facts say your wrong.
2.No it is not fine I mean you can believe it fine but your wrong:shrug:

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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:lamo
 
SheWolf said:
It's not just anti Trump people. It's important to people who understand the danger of a foreign, hostile government interfering with our elections.
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Exactly, basic common sense. Like I said on line is the only place i have ever heard somebody say it doesnt matter or they dont care. When it comes to interference and influence like the OP clearly mentioned (NOT collusion theories) of the people i know in real life that talk about it and want to know what happened most IS a trump supporter. not a blind one but a supporter.
 
independentusa said:
Polls show that 35% of American People still don't believe that the Russians tried to influence our election. I am not talking about the collusion issue, there is no positive proof either way, did or did not. What I am saying is that with all of the stuff that has been uncovered, including the Facebook ads, 35% of people still think that the Russians did nothing to attempt to influence the election. Are they dumb, blind or whatever? Sometimes I wonder if the nation has been so dumbed down that there is no hope for us.
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I actually love watching the conniptions. The Russia thing is just like the whole global warming bull****. Leftists kicked and stomped and screamed AGW!!! AGW!!! but when after a decade no actual support was forthcoming they changed it to just GW!!! GW!!! Then they found they couldnt prove even GW and that the actual temperatures and the historical temperature records were showing a freeze or even decline so they changed their chants to CLIMATE CHANGE!!! CLIMATE CHANGE!!! knowing full well that with or without AGW, the Climate has always done one thing with or without mankind...changed.

Now the Russia bull****. Trump Colluded! He did! Sweartagawd! And Russia Hacked the DNC! Honest! I mean...there is no actual evidence they did...but...they DID...sweartagwd! And it was Russia ! And Trump! And Collusion! and ****....this taking FOREVER to find SOMETHING to connect him on...so lets take the investigation back 10 years and see if there is anything we can find that we can possibly...oh...**** it...never mind...Russia attempted to influence the election!!!

Russia attempted to influence the election!!!

No ****.

You mean, like the US has done for decades? Like globalists have done for decades?
 
VanceMack said:
<strawman and meaningless off topic melt down removed to keep discussion on topic>
Russia attempted to influence the election!!!
No ****.
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Lol
So you agree with what the OP actually said. those 35% of people that disagree with facts and what you consider common sense and just said above need to get a clue. Good to know.
 
trouble13 said:
Do you think facebook should be investigated for accepting foreighin funding to spread propaganda. Isnt that collusion?

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I think Muller should do his invrstigation, and go from there
 
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