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McCain's illness...

I thought it would take a FEW posts for that to come up.

You badly underestimate those with nothing to say but feel a need to say it anyway.
 
Do you have any evidence that McCain is not of sound mind, besides him saying something you do not like?

What many refuse to acknowledge is that McCain's primary job is to get (do?) what is best for AZ not the republicant party or the POTUS. If he and, more importantly, the folks in AZ feel that is the case then his brain is doing just fine.
 
Not at all. It is simply a natural flow from his disease.

My father had the same thing McCain does. Brain cancer does not automatically lead to impaired faculties.
 
I think Trump's rhetoric about POW's being 'losers' is the problem.

Don't blame McCain for Trump's completely rude and classless comment about POW's not being war heroes.

Maybe Trump has a tumor too? ;)

Trump made a stupid comment there, but McCain wasn't an innocent guy at that time -- he'd just delivered the bogus dossier to the FBI, trying to undermine Trump.
 
What many refuse to acknowledge is that McCain's primary job is to get (do?) what is best for AZ not the republicant party or the POTUS. If he and, more importantly, the folks in AZ feel that is the case then his brain is doing just fine.

With that in mind, one would think he would support the wall... I'm not sure, but I don't think he does. If he DOES, he is certainly not vocal about it.
 
Maybe McCain is harshly critical of Trump because Trump is a solid-gold asshole, a terrible president and a national embarrassment.
 
Maybe McCain is harshly critical of Trump because Trump is a solid-gold asshole, a terrible president and a national embarrassment.

Nah. That can't be it. ;)
 
No, it's really not. I can understand why people might think that way though. Would it be appropriate in your mind to discuss if it was found a POTUS was terminally ill with a brain tumor? This is no more inappropriate than that would be, in my opinion, of course.

You're using his brain cancer as a nakedly aggressive tactic for attacking his public comments about a politician you like. I would have expected this kind of thing from others on this forum, but this is extremely beneath you...I hope.
 
You're using his brain cancer as a nakedly aggressive tactic for attacking his public comments about a politician you like. I would have expected this kind of thing from others on this forum, but this is extremely beneath you...I hope.

Jesus, Cardinal. Why do you presume to know what's going on in my mind?? I've asked this question several times on this thread and no one has addressed it. Perhaps you will and then explain why questioning a senator with that diagnosis is much different...

Would you think it was an appropriate question if it were a POTUS instead of a congressman?

I would be the last person on the face of the earth to use an illness against someone in a devious manner. And that's not what I'm doing here.
 
Do you think some of McCain's rhetoric about fellow Republican Donald Trump stems from his brain cancer? Should he step down because of his illness? It is hard to believe he could be thinking clearly with this horrible disease. And before opportunists step up to criticize me, I'd ask how those people would feel if the POTUS had brain cancer?

It depends on where the cancer is, and what the side effects of chemo are. Hell, look at Maxine Waters. She can't even blame cancer. We don't have an effective mechanism to deal with lunatics short of impeachment.

All in all, I think McCain has been a republican because that is where the opportunity to run was. If a democrat seat was open, he would have run for that one as a democrat.
 
You're using his brain cancer as a nakedly aggressive tactic for attacking his public comments about a politician you like. I would have expected this kind of thing from others on this forum, but this is extremely beneath you...I hope.

OK, Doctor Cardinal, where is his brain cancer? And what type of chemo is he on? You certainly sound as if you have some inside info. Do tell.

BTW, he is 80 years old, so throw in a sprinkle of dementia while you are at it.
 
With that in mind, one would think he would support the wall... I'm not sure, but I don't think he does. If he DOES, he is certainly not vocal about it.

The wall idea (better border security) is OK but not as a substitute for much better interior immigration law enforcement. What sane nation would assign 10X more federal agents to secure small portions of its airports than its entire interior? Many, if not most, of those that think the Great Wall of Trump is the discount plan for dealing with (up to 60% of?) future illegal aliens entering the US are quite content to ignore the 12 million illegal aliens now inside the US and the ease of (then) illegal aliens remaining after their temporary visas expire. There is simply no inexpensive way of enforcing immigration law without reductions in freedom (more mandatory checking of documentation). I favor a federal bounty system whereby state/local police departments get reimbursed for turning over illegal aliens to ICE - that allows sanctuary states/cities to opt out and others to be fairly compensated for their time and effort to assist the federal government in the matter.
 
Jesus, Cardinal. Why do you presume to know what's going on in my mind?? I've asked this question several times on this thread and no one has addressed it. Perhaps you will and then explain why questioning a senator with that diagnosis is much different...

Would you think it was an appropriate question if it were a POTUS instead of a congressman?

I would be the last person on the face of the earth to use an illness against someone in a devious manner. And that's not what I'm doing here.

No one addressed your horse**** question because you didn't have a single example to start out with. A box of tic-tacs could see your motive in starting this thread.
 
The wall idea (better border security) is OK but not as a substitute for much better interior immigration law enforcement. What sane nation would assign 10X more federal agents to secure small portions of its airports than its entire interior? Many, if not most, of those that think the Great Wall of Trump is the discount plan for dealing with (up to 60% of?) future illegal aliens entering the US are quite content to ignore the 12 million illegal aliens now inside the US and the ease of (then) illegal aliens remaining after their temporary visas expire. There is simply no inexpensive way of enforcing immigration law without reductions in freedom (more mandatory checking of documentation). I favor a federal bounty system whereby state/local police departments get reimbursed for turning over illegal aliens to ICE - that allows sanctuary states/cities to opt out and others to be fairly compensated for their time and effort to assist the federal government in the matter.

Because it makes it more difficult for the next democrat administration to open up the borders again for another wave of illegal immigration. If the republicans were really serious, they'd make E verify a federal law, until then, the battle will not stop until we become a Mexican colony.
 
No one addressed your horse**** question because you didn't have a single example to start out with. A box of tic-tacs could see your motive in starting this thread.

If you think it's a horse**** question, what does that make you for posting on it? Take your insults somewhere else. You have no reason to think the worst here. It is a reasonable question. If you don't think so, use your remote and change the channel.
 
Because it makes it more difficult for the next democrat administration to open up the borders again for another wave of illegal immigration. If the republicans were really serious, they'd make E verify a federal law, until then, the battle will not stop until we become a Mexican colony.

I so agree that there are legal ways to make all illegals go home voluntarily. I wish I understood the end game.
 
Because it makes it more difficult for the next democrat administration to open up the borders again for another wave of illegal immigration. If the republicans were really serious, they'd make E verify a federal law, until then, the battle will not stop until we become a Mexican colony.

:lamo

Your fantasy is absolutely ludicrious. I almost don't have the words to tell you how idiotic the idea that there is a battle to make the US "a Mexican colony" is.
 
Because it makes it more difficult for the next democrat administration to open up the borders again for another wave of illegal immigration. If the republicans were really serious, they'd make E verify a federal law, until then, the battle will not stop until we become a Mexican colony.

Nonsense, whoever controls the border patrol/customs executive personnel controls the official policy used at the many, many gates in that wall. How do you think that we got DACA/DAPA with absolutely no act of congress?
 
How on earth did Trump cause McCain's mental problems?

Who says McCain is having 'mental problems'? A thread on DP? LOL.

My point was McCain is PO'ed at Trump's classless and rude comments about POW's. So he is NO fan of Trump.

Why are some assuming McCain's comments are because of his cancer, but then cheer when Trump's says things that are 10 times more classless and disgusting? Does that mean Trump has even more 'mental problems' than McCain?
 
If you think it's a horse**** question, what does that make you for posting on it?

The guy who's pointing out that your question is disingenuous and nakedly motivated by a desire to use a man's life-ending disease as a pretext for speaking poorly of a politician you like.

Take your insults somewhere else.

I'll stay here, thanks.

You have no reason to think the worst here. It is a reasonable question.

Prove it: come up with examples.

If you don't think so, use your remote and change the channel.

I'll do as I like, thanks.
 
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Do you think some of McCain's rhetoric about fellow Republican Donald Trump stems from his brain cancer? Should he step down because of his illness? It is hard to believe he could be thinking clearly with this horrible disease. And before opportunists step up to criticize me, I'd ask how those people would feel if the POTUS had brain cancer?

I think he should step down...but I don't think he will.
 
No special comments. All of them. He has been exceptionally vocal re his own party president unlike many other Republicans in chambers.

It would follow that the man who is elderly and with cancer would be a bit more honest than the people who still have to worry about being liked by fellow republicans and not want to fight with the president. Kind of like how Hillary said much nicer things about Bernie before the election when she thought she still had a career in politics vs. now where what she says really makes no difference as to her political career.

I can't think of a thing he's said that would come across as a non-rational thought. He hasn't said anything that other republicans aren't saying about Trump in private.
 
It would follow that the man who is elderly and with cancer would be a bit more honest than the people who still have to worry about being liked by fellow republicans and not want to fight with the president. Kind of like how Hillary said much nicer things about Bernie before the election when she thought she still had a career in politics vs. now where what she says really makes no difference as to her political career.

I can't think of a thing he's said that would come across as a non-rational thought. He hasn't said anything that other republicans aren't saying about Trump in private.

I don't think Inwould rule HC out...
 
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