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What will Trump boost in polls mean?

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It seem obvious that the Trump so called "deal" with "Chuck & Nancy" is responsible for a three point jump in several polls measuring the approval rating of Trump as President. He is now at about 40% give or take a few points depending on the poll.

Todays WSJ/NBC poll say that 71% of Americans support the Trump/Nancy&Chuck deal.

So what will this mean for the next month or two?

Will Trump take this as a sign that he needs more outreach to Democrats and will work with them on even more issues hoping to get his numbers even higher?

Or will the Dem leadership take this as a sign that they are not helping their parties interests in next years congressional elections and decide to go back to full resistance and hope Trumps numbers dive back into the mid thirties?

This could be very important for issues like health care, the tax cut proposal, infrastructure and other key national issues.
 
I think Trump is allergic to being liked by the average American and getting any real work done. He will undoubtedly see this as a call to go back to what he was doing, pandering to his deplorable but loyal base. Normal rules of logic and politics do not apply here.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I think Trump is allergic to being liked by the average American and getting any real work done. He will undoubtedly see this as a call to go back to what he was doing, pandering to his deplorable but loyal base. Normal rules of logic and politics do not apply here.
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The rules of logic and politics are often at odds - logic may dictate choosing option A over option B while politics may dictate underfunding (by 50%) both options A and B as the best bipartisan compromise possible. I have to agree that Trump seems incapable of either logic or political expediency but many say that makes him conservative because it makes change more difficult.
 
haymarket said:
It seem obvious that the Trump so called "deal" with "Chuck & Nancy" is responsible for a three point jump in several polls measuring the approval rating of Trump as President. He is now at about 40% give or take a few points depending on the poll.

Todays WSJ/NBC poll say that 71% of Americans support the Trump/Nancy&Chuck deal.

So what will this mean for the next month or two?

Will Trump take this as a sign that he needs more outreach to Democrats and will work with them on even more issues hoping to get his numbers even higher?

Or will the Dem leadership take this as a sign that they are not helping their parties interests in next years congressional elections and decide to go back to full resistance and hope Trumps numbers dive back into the mid thirties?

This could be very important for issues like health care, the tax cut proposal, infrastructure and other key national issues.
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I tend towards the bolded above assumption - letting federal policy changes deemed to be good for the average Joe (an independent) pass under a republicant Senate and House majority and be signed into law by Trump (thus Trump taking credit for them) is not likely going to get more demorats elected.
 
Americans always respond positively to a military action; Americans love to blow **** up ........

all Orange Cheeto needs to do is go and blow up more **** like he did in Syria, or Afghannyville

I think Cheeto will be starting WWIII before long; the only problem with that is many Americans will prolly be incinerated in such a scenario so, in that case that could put a damper on their enthusiasm for Cheeto ............. we'll see, no doubt ...........
 
haymarket said:
It seem obvious that the Trump so called "deal" with "Chuck & Nancy" is responsible for a three point jump in several polls measuring the approval rating of Trump as President. He is now at about 40% give or take a few points depending on the poll.

Todays WSJ/NBC poll say that 71% of Americans support the Trump/Nancy&Chuck deal.

So what will this mean for the next month or two?

Will Trump take this as a sign that he needs more outreach to Democrats and will work with them on even more issues hoping to get his numbers even higher?

Or will the Dem leadership take this as a sign that they are not helping their parties interests in next years congressional elections and decide to go back to full resistance and hope Trumps numbers dive back into the mid thirties?

This could be very important for issues like health care, the tax cut proposal, infrastructure and other key national issues.
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If the Dems refuse to negotiate in good faith on infrastructure and tax reform, I think it's going to hurt them in the midterms. I think Trump did what he had to do in those compromises and, hopefully, it's a signal he's willing to do more of that. Between The White House and Congress, SOMEONE had to indicate compromise is the right thing to do. This gridlock is more than just ridiculous.
 
haymarket said:
It seem obvious that the Trump so called "deal" with "Chuck & Nancy" is responsible for a three point jump in several polls measuring the approval rating of Trump as President. He is now at about 40% give or take a few points depending on the poll.

Todays WSJ/NBC poll say that 71% of Americans support the Trump/Nancy&Chuck deal.

So what will this mean for the next month or two?

Will Trump take this as a sign that he needs more outreach to Democrats and will work with them on even more issues hoping to get his numbers even higher?

Or will the Dem leadership take this as a sign that they are not helping their parties interests in next years congressional elections and decide to go back to full resistance and hope Trumps numbers dive back into the mid thirties?

This could be very important for issues like health care, the tax cut proposal, infrastructure and other key national issues.
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It means that the daily bash Trump meme of the liberals over the past 8 months is beginning to fall apart.
 
MaggieD said:
If the Dems refuse to negotiate in good faith on infrastructure and tax reform, I think it's going to hurt them in the midterms. I think Trump did what he had to do in those compromises and, hopefully, it's a signal he's willing to do more of that. Between The White House and Congress, SOMEONE had to indicate compromise is the right thing to do. This gridlock is more than just ridiculous.
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You might well be right. It's just funny, really. Infrastructure shouldn't even in most cases be handled by government.
 
MaggieD said:
If the Dems refuse to negotiate in good faith on infrastructure and tax reform, I think it's going to hurt them in the midterms. I think Trump did what he had to do in those compromises and, hopefully, it's a signal he's willing to do more of that. Between The White House and Congress, SOMEONE had to indicate compromise is the right thing to do. This gridlock is more than just ridiculous.
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I suspect most Americans would more than agree with you on gridlock. I also suspect others here are right that increased cooperation from the Dems will not help them win next year. So what then happens? Do the dems ask for MORE in the next round and then settle for nothing less than that as a tactic?
 
MaggieD said:
If the Dems refuse to negotiate in good faith on infrastructure and tax reform, I think it's going to hurt them in the midterms. I think Trump did what he had to do in those compromises and, hopefully, it's a signal he's willing to do more of that. Between The White House and Congress, SOMEONE had to indicate compromise is the right thing to do. This gridlock is more than just ridiculous.
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I think Trump was sending a message and warning to both the establishment republicans and the democrats. Trump has had a tough time lighting a fire under the republicans to pass such things as "repeal and replace Obamacare" and "funding the border wall". Now suddenly there is a viable repeal and replace Obamacare bill in the hopper that turns control of healthcare back to the states and they seem more willing to talk about funding a border wall. On the democrat side, perhaps Nancy Pelosi learned something when facing that angry crowd of illegals calling her a liar for 30 minutes.
 
jimbo said:
It means that the daily bash Trump meme of the liberals over the past 8 months is beginning to fall apart.
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If you think a two or three point jump in the polls means that, you are sadly mistaken as a majority of Americans still do not support the guy.
 
haymarket said:
It seem obvious that the Trump so called "deal" with "Chuck & Nancy" is responsible for a three point jump in several polls measuring the approval rating of Trump as President. He is now at about 40% give or take a few points depending on the poll.

Todays WSJ/NBC poll say that 71% of Americans support the Trump/Nancy&Chuck deal.

So what will this mean for the next month or two?

Will Trump take this as a sign that he needs more outreach to Democrats and will work with them on even more issues hoping to get his numbers even higher?

Or will the Dem leadership take this as a sign that they are not helping their parties interests in next years congressional elections and decide to go back to full resistance and hope Trumps numbers dive back into the mid thirties?

This could be very important for issues like health care, the tax cut proposal, infrastructure and other key national issues.
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The dems are firmly entrenched in beating trump at all costs. They want him impeached. They cant afford to be seen working with him or they run the risk of their base turning on them. Trump does not have that problem. His base wont abandon him for working with dems.

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If this newest Health Care bill, which is a complete disaster and the worse GOP HC bill yet, passes Congress and Trump signs it Trump's ratings will go back into crapper and he'll lose a lot of the love he's currently getting from the Dems in Congress.

Not only is this new bill awful for individuals, but for the States it disproportionately divides up funds.. Basically it's more of the Red States teat sucking off of the Blue states...

That's going to piss off a lot of people. And Trump is going to be blamed.
 
ObamacareFail said:
I think Trump was sending a message and warning to both the establishment republicans and the democrats. Trump has had a tough time lighting a fire under the republicans to pass such things as "repeal and replace Obamacare" and "funding the border wall". Now suddenly there is a viable repeal and replace Obamacare bill in the hopper that turns control of healthcare back to the states and they seem more willing to talk about funding a border wall. On the democrat side, perhaps Nancy Pelosi learned something when facing that angry crowd of illegals calling her a liar for 30 minutes.
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Re Pelosi, where did that happen?
 
MaggieD said:
If the Dems refuse to negotiate in good faith on infrastructure and tax reform, I think it's going to hurt them in the midterms. I think Trump did what he had to do in those compromises and, hopefully, it's a signal he's willing to do more of that. Between The White House and Congress, SOMEONE had to indicate compromise is the right thing to do. This gridlock is more than just ridiculous.
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I agree with this. I think it's a mistake to bypass a chance to co-opt Trump if it can be done and influence legislation in a progressive way. The alternative is to do what many GOP legislatures are doing - placing the interests of their party over those of the country. It would be good, for example, to have tax reform that helped the middle class but not wealthy tax payers who can well afford the taxes they now pay. Corporate taxes should be easy to reform given the wiggle room between the official rate of 35 percent and the average effective rate of around 16 percent. If the rate were lowered somewhere in the 20's with losses made up for with adjustments in deductions and write offs, leaving the overall corporate contribution to revenues about the same, it wouldn't hurt and might be a fairer tax structure than what we have now. A side benefit in this, possibly a critical one, is that if Trump saw himself reaping success domestically instead of being stalemated at every turn, it might cause him to focus on more of the same and be less stupidly belligerent internationally.
 
"...do what many GOP legislatures are doing..."

Meant to say "legislators".
 
What will Trump boost in polls mean?
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that there are a large number of ignorant fools in our country
















what did i win?
 
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