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Trump says rich might pay more in taxes, talks with Democrats

It is far too late for that. Trump will not go down in history as an Eisenhower.

IKE was not a religious zealot and warned us about the MIC in one of his last speeches.

Dad was stationed in Morroco until 1961 so I never really saw IKE on TV.

Not a fan of the way we threw away thousands of lives at Normandy ...
 
IKE was not a religious zealot and warned us about the MIC in one of his last speeches.

Dad was stationed in Morroco until 1961 so I never really saw IKE on TV.

Not a fan of the way we threw away thousands of lives at Normandy ...

Out of curiosity, what do you think we could have done differently to get into continental Europe? I've never really looked into alternative options, myself.
 
Trump is the last honest working for America guy in town.

GO TRUMP!

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Amnesty Don, Chuck and Nancy make a great trio. Don and Nancy are the same age you know ...
 
Out of curiosity, what do you think we could have done differently to get into continental Europe? I've never really looked into alternative options, myself.

Well we could have followed the British suggestions and continued the Italian campagin North word or pursue invasions of Greece or other Mediterranean diversions.

But the Normandy invasion was the necessary second front against Germany.
 
Well we could have followed the British suggestions and continued the Italian campagin North word or pursue invasions of Greece or other Mediterranean diversions.

But the Normandy invasion was the necessary second front against Germany.
Agreed.
 
President Eisenhower did not consider it liberal to make the rich pay more in taxes ...
Jfk didnt comsider lowering taxes and investing in the military conservative policies

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He said that during the election too, though.
 
He said that during the election too, though.

And many more things that aren't even close to "conservative". The die-hard Trump supporters dismissed those things.
 
Oh look. More liberal policies from the con artist in chief:



Trump says rich might pay more in taxes, talks with Democrats | Reuters

are you tired of winning yet?

That's fine with me. But I think just looking at the tax rates like 99% of us do hides the real amount of taxes paid. The rich can afford CPA's, accountants, tax lawyers, take advantage of a thousand loopholes and with most in the highest tax bracket, they end up with an effective tax rate lower than most of us pay.

But seeing the top rate rise makes most of us feel good. Especially liberals and Democrats which in raising the top rate in reality accomplished little in the amount of taxes paid by the rich. You could in my opinion raise the top rate to 90%, but those super rich using all the deductions, loopholes etc. will still pay less of a tax rate percentage that the rest of us. But it would make liberals jump up and down for joy. My two cents.
 
And many more things that aren't even close to "conservative". The die-hard Trump supporters dismissed those things.

Building a wall and Banning Muslims was obviously very important to a significant portion of GOP voters.
 
So you agree with Trump in this instance. That's all I was asking.

No I don't agree with him now or the way he is doing it. It's stupid. I thought that was clear :roll:

Yes, I do think we should tax the rich, but not just to "win."
 
No I don't agree with him now or the way he is doing it. It's stupid. I thought that was clear :roll:

Yes, I do think we should tax the rich, but not just to "win."

So you agree with what he's doing, but not WHY he's doing it. Okay. :shrug:
 
Of all the things I HATE about the current GOP, and I was a Republican for 30+ years, one of the biggest things I hate is someone who was NEVER voted into any office has the GOP by the balls on this tax issue.

Grover Norquist....

Taxpayer Protection Pledge", a pledge signed by lawmakers who agree to oppose increases in marginal income tax rates for individuals and businesses, as well as net reductions or eliminations of deductions and credits without a matching reduced tax rate.[5] Prior to the November 2012 election, the pledge was signed by 95% of all Republican members of Congress and all but one of the candidates running for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination
 
Of all the things I HATE about the current GOP, and I was a Republican for 30+ years, one of the biggest things I hate is someone who was NEVER voted into any office has the GOP by the balls on this tax issue. Grover Norquist....

Norquist sabotaged Retired GOP Sen. Coburn's 'Back-In-Black' plan of 2011, a plan that would have given us a balanced budget during Obama.

Dr. Coburn retired early due to cancer but remains a tireless worker for a Constitutional Convention, especially for a BBA, which I support with qualifiers for certain emergencies like Harvey, Irma, and War ...
 
I love how you always ask me questions, but you never criticize Trump. I don't recall if Trump ever specifically said that he wouldn't tax the rich. Though there are plenty of times where he said we would have the lowest tax rates ever in this country. It's once again stupid obvious hypocrisy from Trump, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not I would agree with the plan he has concocted with Democrats.

Why can't you answer the question?
 
You're hatred and ignorance is very transparent. Raising taxes on the rich was Trump's original tax plan during the campaign.

Can you find a quote of this during his campaign run? Because I recall him saying that before he ran...and once he ran, he backed off and said "based on the current plan for reducing tax rates..he wanted to change THOSE to be slightly higher...but still a net negative.

His new stance:
that the wealthy “will not be gaining at all with this plan. ... If they have to go higher, they’ll go higher, frankly.”

Unless you can show otherwise, this appears to be a new thing.

In the campaign he said at least these:

1. cut taxes for everyone (includes the rich)
2. lower business tax rate (defacto the rich)
3. repeal AMT (the rich)
4. eliminate carried interest loophole
5. eliminate estate tax (the rich)
Trump-O-Meter: Campaign Promises that are about Taxes | PolitiFact

He was quite generous in his promises to the wealthy during the campaign.
 
And in nearly every successful European nation. Oops.

Do you think that there are no longer rich people in those European nations? It seems that you are trying to equate the higher taxation of everyone with soaking the rich to the point that they flee.
 
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