US leadership divorced from reality?

Thoreau72 · Sep 14, 2017

joG said:
I don't agree at all. If you had known the East Block before the Soviet implosion and now, you would not think that their elites' losing was of lesser importance. Where you are right is that since 1989 the US has been forced to act with a few allies to keep trade lanes open and a semblance of security for most or at least a plurality of people.

Btw I tend to disregard any legal or legitimacy comparison of US a century ago with one just now. The only notable thing to take out of it is that it is an example of multipolar internatiinal security systems in both cases and that it is this structure that Putin wants in our time. That is catastrophic if he gets his way. And that has nothing to do with where you live or which nationality you hold.

I certainly agree with you and Ike that the US of today is very far removed indeed from the US of 100 years ago, back when we had to beat our plowshares into swords for wars, back when constitutional governance was mostly a reality. Though we had our adventures in the islands of the Philippines, for the most part the Constitution was followed. As the Senate rejected Rand Paul's efforts to get the AUMF monkey off our collective back. The Congress LIKES permanent and undeclared war. It loves its abdication of responsibility.

I'm not sure what Russian elites you are referring to, but in fact, one result of Project Hammer was the creation of many "elites", those being the traitors who accepted the US money and helped pillage the Russian economy. Yeltsin was just a corrupt alcoholic who sold out his country to US spies.

joG · Sep 14, 2017

Thoreau72 said:
I certainly agree with you and Ike that the US of today is very far removed indeed from the US of 100 years ago, back when we had to beat our plowshares into swords for wars, back when constitutional governance was mostly a reality. Though we had our adventures in the islands of the Philippines, for the most part the Constitution was followed. As the Senate rejected Rand Paul's efforts to get the AUMF monkey off our collective back. The Congress LIKES permanent and undeclared war. It loves its abdication of responsibility.

I'm not sure what Russian elites you are referring to, but in fact, one result of Project Hammer was the creation of many "elites", those being the traitors who accepted the US money and helped pillage the Russian economy. Yeltsin was just a corrupt alcoholic who sold out his country to US spies.

Pillaged? You didn't see their production plants over there, I guess. There was nothing to pillage. The Soviet had run its and the economies of the satellite countries into the ground.