Star Trek: Discovery to tackle Trump-era political divide

[FONT=&quot]“The allegory is that we really started working on the show in earnest around the time the election was happening,” showrunner Aaron Harberts says. “The Klingons are going to help us really look at certain sides of ourselves and our country. Isolationism is a big theme. Racial purity is a big theme. The Klingons are not the enemy, but they do have a different view on things. It raises big questions: Should we let people in? Do we want to change? There’s also the question of just because you reach your hand out to someone, do they have to take it? Sometimes, they don’t want to take it. It’s been interesting to see how the times have become more of a mirror than we even thought they were going to be.”
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]While such topics have been explored across [/FONT]Star Trek‘s six previous series and 700 episodes before, the serialized nature of Discovery‘s 15-episode debut season allows for a greater depth of storytelling. “The thing about the war is it takes Starfleet and the Federation and forces them to examine their ideas and ethical rules of conflict and conduct,” Harberts says. “It provides a backdrop to how we want to be as a society and that analysis and self-reflection is new for Trek. They’ve done it in certain episodes in the past, but this is a true journey for the institution in itself.”

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Star Trek: Discovery to tackle Trump-era political divide

Well I for one ain't gonna watch this Trek Ride. This is one Trekker that will be in another part of the quadrant for this one.

Renae said:

Star Trek: Discovery to tackle Trump-era political divide

Well I for one ain't gonna watch this Trek Ride. This is one Trekker that will be in another part of the quadrant for this one.

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Science fiction has always tackled social issues.



Anyway, a large part of the reason we're where we are today is a large group of people refusing to listen to anything they don't want to here.

Mr Person said:

Science fiction has always tackled social issues.



Anyway, a large part of the reason we're where we are today is a large group of people refusing to listen to anything they don't want to here.

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You're killing the forum irony meter, stop it.

I know they have always addressed social issues. But this isn't addressing, it's preaching and castigating. Big diff.

I have watched and enjoyed every ST series and I will certainly check this out.

And Star Trek has always been political. Critiquing the Vietnam War, examining the Israel/Palestinian conflict, capitalism vs socialism, torture, immigration, drug use, racial tensions, homosexuality, and on and on.

It might turn out to be a poor series, but it won't be because they got political.

Renae said:

You're killing the forum irony meter, stop it.

I know they have always addressed social issues. But this isn't addressing, it's preaching and castigating. Big diff.

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I don't like preaching in my scifi just like you, however, I reserve judgments until I have seen the episodes. I will give it a chance. Maybe they blow it, or maybe they do an excellent job. I will wait and see.

PirateMk1 said:

I don't like preaching in my scifi just like you, however, I reserve judgments until I have seen the episodes. I will give it a chance. Maybe they blow it, or maybe they do an excellent job. I will wait and see.

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I will wait for the reviews and if it's as bad as teh cast interview and EW article say, I'll pass.

Renae said:

You're killing the forum irony meter, stop it.

I know they have always addressed social issues. But this isn't addressing, it's preaching and castigating. Big diff.

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I will decline the invitation to risk a derailing-thread report by remarking on what the blued-text attempts to troll me about...

As for the red, well, that's kind of my point. (And no, it's not irony that you'd make a display of not "getting" it). You saw that their vague description is going to have to do with immigration. You saw that it has to do with the current era (Trump, not necessarily Clinton/Bush/Obama). Everything else you said derived from pre-emptively defensive assumptions you drew based on those two things: that they will criticize Trump's approach to immigration via allegory.

And back to that blue stuff. Well, naturally, the next move was to equate criticism with "castigation" or "preaching".



I'm not going to bother with it because I only really watched the original series and Next Generation. I watched some of the later stuff and found it not to my taste. But you? You've already decided before it airs that it's going to be some sort of hatchet-job....

.....and the only thing you based it on is that they said they're gonna talk about isolationism, immigration, etc., via allegory.





(Of course, it's doubly-strange in terms of the pre-emptive defensiveness, because Trump more or less simultaneously cut a debt ceiling deal with the Dems AND told congress he wants them to pass legislation that lets the dreamers stay).

Renae said:

You're killing the forum irony meter, stop it.

I know they have always addressed social issues. But this isn't addressing, it's preaching and castigating. Big diff.

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The original Star Trek did preaching and castigating

The kiss between Kirk an Uhura

The episode in which a guy with white skin on one side and black on the other, hunting down another with the exact opposite pattern.

The episode in which one planet is heavily overpopulated and wants to use Kirk to bring disease to the population

Or the one with the Silicon life based creature killing miners because they were destroying its eggs. In the end they work together.

If the original was not preaching and castigating I don't know what it. Heck it probably set the US on it's liberal path that it made it what it is today

Renae said:

But this isn't addressing, it's preaching and castigating. Big diff.

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It's like you've never listened to a Federation captain lecture a Ferengi about the evils of money and avarice.

Lord Tammerlain said:

The original Star Trek did preaching and castigating

The kiss between Kirk an Uhura

The episode in which a guy with white skin on one side and black on the other, hunting down another with the exact opposite pattern.

The episode in which one planet is heavily overpopulated and wants to use Kirk to bring disease to the population

Or the one with the Silicon life based creature killing miners because they were destroying its eggs. In the end they work together.

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The episode Private Little War was clearly a mirror of the Vietnam War (Hell...i think Kirk even referenced it in the episode!)