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When Will the Left Begin Defending Trump from The Right?

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After yesterday's bitch slap, when Trump threw most of the Right under the bus to accept a proposal from Pelosi and Schumer, I have a whole new theory brewing. A couple more of those, and the Far Right will go balls to the wall after Trump, and the Left will end up having his back.

Who agrees?
 
calamity said:
After yesterday's bitch slap, when Trump threw most of the Right under the bus to accept a proposal from Pelosi and Schumer, I have a whole new theory brewing. A couple more of those, and the Far Right will go balls to the wall after Trump, and the Left will end up having his back.

Who agrees?
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I have no problem defending Trump if he does something right, nor do I have a problem defending him from retarded attacks. The same is true for every politician. You might decide your reactions based on who does something, I prefer to base my reactions on what is done...
 
calamity said:
After yesterday's bitch slap, when Trump threw most of the Right under the bus to accept a proposal from Pelosi and Schumer, I have a whole new theory brewing. A couple more of those, and the Far Right will go balls to the wall after Trump, and the Left will end up having his back.

Who agrees?
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Maybe. I wouldn't be surprised.

But for my own 2 cents, I've always thought he was very easily influenced, so it's not surprising to me that both sides are trying to capitalize on that. Frankly, it's probably the only way anything's going to get done for his term, so perhaps it's a good strategy for Congress to use.

I'll still think he's a charlatan no matter what he gets corralled into doing on behalf of whomever. The very fact that he's so vulnerable to that sort of manipulation is a good enough reason all by itself why he has no business being president.

Being easily manipulated is not the same thing as actually making an ethical choice to do the right thing.
 
Redress said:
I have no problem defending Trump if he does something right, nor do I have a problem defending him from retarded attacks. The same is true for every politician. You might decide your reactions based on who does something, I prefer to base my reactions on what is done...
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Oh, I certainly gave him credit for his actions yesterday. That was ballsy.

The thread is more about the irony of what I sense may happen. His more rabid Far Right supporters (not the Alts, they are sort of liberal except for the White Nationalism anyway) turn on him--I refer to the no-compromise ever bunch--while those who saw the worst in him start thinking, "Hey, this guy is better than Pence. Let's cut deals."
 
calamity said:
Oh, I certainly gave him credit for his actions yesterday. That was ballsy.

The thread is more about the irony of what I sense may happen. His more rabid Far Right supporters (not the Alts, they are sort of liberal except for the White Nationalism anyway) turn on him while those who saw the worst in him start thinking, "Hey, this guy is better than Pence. Let's cut deals."
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I would cut deals with Satan if it was a good deal for America.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Maybe. I wouldn't be surprised.

But for my own 2 cents, I've always thought he was very easily influenced, so it's not surprising to me that both sides are trying to capitalize on that. Frankly, it's probably the only way anything's going to get done for his term, so perhaps it's a good strategy for Congress to use.

I'll still think he's a charlatan no matter what he gets corralled into doing on behalf of whomever. The very fact that he's so vulnerable to that sort of manipulation is a good enough reason all by itself why he has no business being president.

Being easily manipulated is not the same thing as actually making an ethical choice to do the right thing.
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My personal opinion of Don: He's chasing a legacy. He has no real ideology or loyalty. He's about Don. And, what is best for Don? Finding 230 or so House members and 60 Senators who can agree on something in principle, and then vote to pass it and make him look good.
 
calamity said:
My personal opinion of Don: He's chasing a legacy. He has no real ideology or loyalty. He's about Don. And, what is best for Don? Finding 230 or so House members and 60 Senators who can agree on something in principle, and then vote to pass it and make him look good.
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Don is a billionaire New Yorker that has a history of running in the same circles as elite and establishment Democrats including the Clintons. We'll see where this all goes.....
 
I personally will support and/or defend anything that I think is good for the country.
I see yesterday as a wake up call to the republicans and big middle finger to the freedom caucus...get together and stop all this faction crap or get run over.
However I'm not fooled I don't think this was some grand thing I think it was calculated...its not a turn or change but a warning.
 
LunaRose said:
Don is a billionaire New Yorker that has a history of running in the same circles as elite and establishment Democrats including the Clintons. We'll see where this all goes.....
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Yeah, it should be interesting.

I would not put it past a majority block of bipartisan members in the House holding Trump hostage re: Mueller's findings either. After all, the end game really is just all about politics. No one Left of Atilla the Hun wants Pence. They'd rather have a wounded Duck named Donald.
 
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