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More than 5,000 out-of-state voters may have tipped New Hampshire against Trump

Southern Dad said:
You are right, GA )CGA 21-2-381 says that even if I'm domiciled in NH, I can't vote in GA if I register to vote there. I was giving an example. 5,000 out of state voters in NH should be a concern but for some reason it isn't. However, if this was PA the left would be concerned.
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First of all, you're asserting they are "out of state" but have no proof of it. And what does "out of state" mean? If you're a full time college student spending 9-12 months in NH and register and vote in NH, are you "out of state"?

And what is "this" that if it was PA we'd be concerned? I'm not concerned about people who primarily live in a state registering in that state and voting. What else should they do? When I went to college in VA, I planned on returning to TN, and so voted in TN all 4 years. But if I had planned to stay in VA, or to move to some other state, why not change my registration to VA while I'm there?
 
Southern Dad said:
Okay, so in other words, you can't prove they were college students. You just want us to believe that they were. I get it.
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I can't speak for anyone else, but there is nothing I could possibly care less about than what YOU BELIEVE. What I care about is whether there is any EVIDENCE that a non-trivial number of voters in NH committed an act of voter fraud. So far there is zero, none, zilch, nada, no, nil evidence that even ONE of these same day registration folks committed any act of fraud by voting. Nothing. The election was in November. It's mid September. There was a person who offered a $1,000 reward for a single credible case of someone driving to NH and committing voter fraud with same day registration. He's not paid off that reward.

You can believe the earth is flat, the sun rotates around the earth, and all 5,000 of those voters were bussed by the Hillary campaign with Hillary, Bill and Chelsea each personally driving one of the buses. Until you have evidence, why should anyone care?
 
JasperL said:
First of all, you're asserting they are "out of state" but have no proof of it. And what does "out of state" mean? If you're a full time college student spending 9-12 months in NH and register and vote in NH, are you "out of state"?

And what is "this" that if it was PA we'd be concerned? I'm not concerned about people who primarily live in a state registering in that state and voting. What else should they do? When I went to college in VA, I planned on returning to TN, and so voted in TN all 4 years. But if I had planned to stay in VA, or to move to some other state, why not change my registration to VA while I'm there?
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The used an out-of-state driver's license to register to vote on election day and never transferred to NH. That indicates they are residents of another state. Changing your registration because you planned to stay there would make sense. However, these apparently didn't stay there. They never turned in the old driver's license and got NH ones. It just seems like an odd coincidence that there were 5k plus people who decided on election day to register to vote and cast a ballot using an out-of-state driver's license that never got NH licenses.
 
Southern Dad said:
On no, we don't. I just want to know if I sign up for a college course in NH can I go up there and vote? After all, I'd be a resident of Georgia but domiciled in NH.
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You'd only be domiciled in NH if you are living in NH. Just being enrolled in a class and driving up to NH does not make it so.
 
Southern Dad said:
The people we are talking about did have driver's licenses. They just had licenses from states other than NH and never got NH licenses.
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Why would an out-of-state college student need a NH license?
 
Visbek said:
Can you admit they could be legitimate voters?
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I see. You are unwilling to answer my question until I answer yours. Good deflection. Yes. They could be completely legitimate voters. Of course, a lot of things could be. It's pretty suspicious that 5,000 plus people decided to register to vote on Election Day using an out-of-state driver's license but then never became residents of the state. But you know what... Donald J Trump is still the president. What do you have?
 
Southern Dad said:
Okay, so in other words, you can't prove they were college students. You just want us to believe that they were. I get it.
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The burden of proof is on the one who claims a crime was committed.
 
Southern Dad said:
I see. You are unwilling to answer my question until I answer yours. Good deflection. Yes. They could be completely legitimate voters. Of course, a lot of things could be. It's pretty suspicious that 5,000 plus people decided to register to vote on Election Day using an out-of-state driver's license but then never became residents of the state. But you know what... Donald J Trump is still the president. What do you have?
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You keep saying that. Why is it suspicious? Is that 5,000 an outlier compared to past elections? Do you have data to prove the outlier?
 
Geoist said:
You keep saying that. Why is it suspicious? Is that 5,000 an outlier compared to past elections? Do you have data to prove the outlier?
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Okay, I see that you don't think that it is suspicious at all. Would you still feel that way if it was discovered in a state that Trump barely won? End of the day, Trump is still president, and Hillary is still a has been.
 
Southern Dad said:
Good deflection. Yes. They could be completely legitimate voters. Of course, a lot of things could be. It's pretty suspicious that 5,000 plus people decided to register to vote on Election Day using an out-of-state driver's license but then never became residents of the state.
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It's been explained to you, more than a dozen times, how and why this is not suspicious; how this is not new; how neither the state or anyone else has actually found any voter fraud in connection with this -- or with same-day registration in other states.


But you know what... Donald J Trump is still the president. What do you have?
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So basically, you have no arguments left. Good to know.
 
Southern Dad said:
I didn't claim they were college students. Like I said, PROVE IT.
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We all said they are likely mostly college students. That would be the logical conclusion. The not-so-logical conclusion would be that thousands of MA residents were bused in to NH to vote. Of course, you go with the not-so-logical conclusion because it fits your political agenda, even if it doesn't fit reality.

You claim a crime has been committed. In America, the burden of proof lies with the prosecution. Likewise, if you expect any of us to take your claims seriously you need to actually provide proof/evidence.
 
Southern Dad said:
The used an out-of-state driver's license to register to vote on election day and never transferred to NH. That indicates they are residents of another state. Changing your registration because you planned to stay there would make sense. However, these apparently didn't stay there. They never turned in the old driver's license and got NH ones. It just seems like an odd coincidence that there were 5k plus people who decided on election day to register to vote and cast a ballot using an out-of-state driver's license that never got NH licenses.
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You keep ignoring the law. It's been explained to you a dozen times. You have to be trolling at this point.
 
Southern Dad said:
Okay, I see that you don't think that it is suspicious at all. Would you still feel that way if it was discovered in a state that Trump barely won?
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I didn't like either candidate, so you are barking up the wrong tree. If a bunch of liberals started complaining about 5,000 same-day-registered voters then I would say the same to them: provide evidence of a crime.

And once you provide evidence then maybe some of us will start taking your chicken little act a little more seriously. But I can see judging from your deflection response you have no data as was requested.


End of the day, Trump is still president, and Hillary is still a has been.
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Irrelevant to the discussion.
 
Southern Dad said:
The used an out-of-state driver's license to register to vote on election day and never transferred to NH. That indicates they are residents of another state. Changing your registration because you planned to stay there would make sense. However, these apparently didn't stay there. They never turned in the old driver's license and got NH ones. It just seems like an odd coincidence that there were 5k plus people who decided on election day to register to vote and cast a ballot using an out-of-state driver's license that never got NH licenses.
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It's like you just went full circle, spouting the same exact garbage you did when you first came in here, as if you didn't learn a single thing.

Do you think people don't recognize the games you're playing?
 
Geoist said:
We all said they are likely mostly college students. That would be the logical conclusion. The not-so-logical conclusion would be that thousands of MA residents were bused in to NH to vote. Of course, you go with the not-so-logical conclusion because it fits your political agenda, even if it doesn't fit reality.

You claim a crime has been committed. In America, the burden of proof lies with the prosecution. Likewise, if you expect any of us to take your claims seriously you need to actually provide proof/evidence.
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As did the NH SOS, who tends to know about these things. Also, with the aging population, there are quite a number of snow birds who stay down south longer and domicile there, and then come up here and enter into nursing homes / assisted living, etc. Numerous other situations as well.

I'll add, there is something like a 120K higher education student population in NH. Even if it were all 5k, that's less than 5%.
 
Geoist said:
We all said they are likely mostly college students. That would be the logical conclusion. The not-so-logical conclusion would be that thousands of MA residents were bused in to NH to vote. Of course, you go with the not-so-logical conclusion because it fits your political agenda, even if it doesn't fit reality.

You claim a crime has been committed. In America, the burden of proof lies with the prosecution. Likewise, if you expect any of us to take your claims seriously you need to actually provide proof/evidence.
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You said that they are MOST LIKELY college students. That is your supposition. Why is it that over 5,000 "college students" who did not have NH driver's licenses all registered on Election Day? Isn't that odd? I know you all think it's okay. Personally, I really don't care because even if this was a devious plot, it failed.

I never claimed that a crime was committed. Not once. I am sorry that you are just unable to read and comprehend that. I suggested that it appeared suspicious.
 
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