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Trump King of False Equivalencies

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I can't remember the last time that thousands of homes were destroyed, miles of road were ruined, and people's lives were lost, due to a flash drought, or even a slow rising drought. A flood? Well... A drought has different issues, but is in fact not as impactful as a mass flood. Would I say it's better? No, but I would say not as dangerous.

Floods are the most dangerous natural event that can occur. In the U.S. floods kill more people each year than tornadoes, hurricanes or lightning.

Trump is one of the most ineloquent speakers I've ever had the displeasure to listen to, and he'd be better served by sticking to prepared and vetted remarks rather than doing these types of hip pocket quips he throws out... however, the rush to find something wrong with every little thing he says leads to idiotic and factually wrong complaints like the one in the OP article and only makes those making them look desperately negative and uninformed.
 
Beaudreaux said:
I can't remember the last time that thousands of homes were destroyed, miles of road were ruined, and people's lives were lost, due to a flash drought, or even a slow rising drought. A flood? Well... A drought has different issues, but is in fact not as impactful as a mass flood. Would I say it's better? No, but I would say not as dangerous.

Floods are the most dangerous natural event that can occur. In the U.S. floods kill more people each year than tornadoes, hurricanes or lightning.

Trump is one of the most ineloquent speakers I've ever had the displeasure to listen to, and he'd be better served by sticking to prepared and vetted remarks rather than doing these types of hip pocket quips he throws out... however, the rush to find something wrong with every little thing he says leads to idiotic and factually wrong complaints like the one in the OP article and only makes those making them look desperately negative and uninformed.
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I've lived in the desert southwest most my life and we often have what termed as droughts and I never once had to flee my home or had family members lost or die because of one.
 
Beaudreaux said:
I can't remember the last time that thousands of homes were destroyed, miles of road were ruined, and people's lives were lost, due to a flash drought, or even a slow rising drought. A flood? Well... A drought has different issues, but is in fact not as impactful as a mass flood. Would I say it's better? No, but I would say not as dangerous.

Floods are the most dangerous natural event that can occur. In the U.S. floods kill more people each year than tornadoes, hurricanes or lightning.

Trump is one of the most ineloquent speakers I've ever had the displeasure to listen to, and he'd be better served by sticking to prepared and vetted remarks rather than doing these types of hip pocket quips he throws out... however, the rush to find something wrong with every little thing he says leads to idiotic and factually wrong complaints like the one in the OP article and only makes those making them look desperately negative and uninformed.
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Yes, I'm sure Trump calling Harvey worse than the ND drought really calms down the people in ND. He didn't even need to mention Harvey.
 
it's (almost) getting to the point of being funny having a POTUS that is dumber than dirt, all while he thinks he is some kind of miracle gift to America

I am kinda getting used to the idea of the rest of the world looking at America, and laughing their asses off at how asinine we all look over here with our big dumbass Donny in the White House creating perpetual chaos all while our nation slides down into the proverbial sewer

it's like reality TV crossed with reality nation; cheap entertainment, and getting cheaper by the day

yes, entertainment is cheap & so is current America ............ everyone, please look in a mirror & laugh ...........
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Yes, I'm sure Trump calling Harvey worse than the ND drought really calms down the people in ND. He didn't even need to mention Harvey.
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If you want to talk about whether he should have mentioned Harvey, then that's a separate conversation. The title of this thread is Trump King of False Equivalencies and the first line in the OP is "In what world is a drought better than flood? Alt-Right world. That's where." That's what I responded to. I'm not, nor did I even attempt to defend Trump - read my post again for clarity on that point. This thread topic is a logical failure, and that has been proven. Side tracking as if the subject of the thread was whether Trump should have mentioned Harvey or not (which I also addressed in my first post just in case we got to this point eventually), just adds insult to injury.

As to the OP article, and trying to make political hay from this particular Trump statement, I refer the author, and those that may think it was a good point, to the following quote from Mark Twain: It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
 
Say what you want, but if you're the President of the United States, your leadership capability, your speaking ability, your awareness of issues, your compassion, etc., will all be measured and weighed. As current president, what he says and does, is important.

Now I know some on the right feel what Obama and Hillary did and are doing now, is much more important. But we'll just have to agree to disagree on that.

Of course a flood where many died is worse than a drought where no one died.
Of course telling a state experiencing incredibly damaging drought "they don't have it so bad" is stupid.
It's a rookie mistake. A president, making rookie mistakes, we should be proud of this, or ignore it?

That Trump routinely fails on nearly every meaningful measure of a "good human being and leader", much less a good president, is certainly old news, but it's still more important than talking about Hillary And Obama...I'm looking at you right wing media.
 
Beaudreaux said:
If you want to talk about whether he should have mentioned Harvey, then that's a separate conversation. The title of this thread is Trump King of False Equivalencies and the first line in the OP is "In what world is a drought better than flood? Alt-Right world. That's where." That's what I responded to. I'm not, nor did I even attempt to defend Trump - read my post again for clarity on that point. This thread topic is a logical failure, and that has been proven. Side tracking as if the subject of the thread was whether Trump should have mentioned Harvey or not (which I also addressed in my first post just in case we got to this point eventually), just adds insult to injury.

As to the OP article, and trying to make political hay from this particular Trump statement, I refer the author, and those that may think it was a good point, to the following quote from Mark Twain: It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
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If you are going to ND to talk about the drought, why talk about Harvey? Makes no sense to me. :shrug:
Why does he attempt to falsely compare everything when he doesn't have to?
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
If you are going to ND to talk about the drought, why talk about Harvey? Makes no sense to me. :shrug:
Why does he attempt to falsely compare everything when he doesn't have to?
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If you're asking me to explain why Trump did that, then I can only repeat what I already said about most of his comments - Trump is one of the most ineloquent speakers I've ever had the displeasure to listen to, and he'd be better served by sticking to prepared and vetted remarks rather than doing these types of hip pocket quips he throws out...
 
Heard him say this live while I was driving home from work. I had to smile and shake my head. Whether his statement was 'accurate' or not... it is just a really bizarre and insensitive thing to say. There are farmers/ranchers whose livelihoods depend on the rain.
 
Beaudreaux said:
I can't remember the last time that thousands of homes were destroyed, miles of road were ruined, and people's lives were lost, due to a flash drought, or even a slow rising drought. A flood? Well... A drought has different issues, but is in fact not as impactful as a mass flood. Would I say it's better? No, but I would say not as dangerous.

Floods are the most dangerous natural event that can occur. In the U.S. floods kill more people each year than tornadoes, hurricanes or lightning.

Trump is one of the most ineloquent speakers I've ever had the displeasure to listen to, and he'd be better served by sticking to prepared and vetted remarks rather than doing these types of hip pocket quips he throws out... however, the rush to find something wrong with every little thing he says leads to idiotic and factually wrong complaints like the one in the OP article and only makes those making them look desperately negative and uninformed.
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I cant help to notice that heat isnt on that list.

"From 1999 to 2010, a total of 7,415 deaths in the United States, an average of 618 per year, were associated with exposure to excessive natural heat. The highest yearly total of heat-related deaths (1,050) was in 1999 and the lowest (295) in 2004. Approximately 68% of heat-related deaths were among males."

Source: National Vital Statistics System. Mortality public use data files, 1999–2009. Available at Data Access - Vital Statistics Online.
 
Geoist said:
Heard him say this live while I was driving home from work. I had to smile and shake my head. Whether his statement was 'accurate' or not... it is just a really bizarre and insensitive thing to say. There are farmers/ranchers whose livelihoods depend on the rain.
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Oh Great Wizard Trump will send Irma to ND; I can just see it now .................... rain for days ..............
 
FreedomFromAll said:
I cant help to notice that heat isnt on that list.

"From 1999 to 2010, a total of 7,415 deaths in the United States, an average of 618 per year, were associated with exposure to excessive natural heat. The highest yearly total of heat-related deaths (1,050) was in 1999 and the lowest (295) in 2004. Approximately 68% of heat-related deaths were among males."

Source: National Vital Statistics System. Mortality public use data files, 1999–2009. Available at Data Access - Vital Statistics Online.
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I've had a heat stroke. It's not fun. Thought I was dying, and there was nothing I could do about it.
 
cuban smokes said:
Oh Great Wizard Trump will send Irma to ND; I can just see it now .................... rain for days ..............
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But not too much. We don't want them being too reliant on government, now, do we? ;)
 
You know if Trump were to say "Vanilla ice cream is the best flavor" immediately someone would put up on the Corporate Class Propaganda Machine "Trump must own some inventory of vanilla that he needs to unload, How DARE he use the Presidency to make money!".

Even the propaganda quality is in decline around here.....
 
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Beaudreaux said:
I've had a heat stroke. It's not fun. Thought I was dying, and there was nothing I could do about it.
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Yea i've had it too, it sucks.

My point though is that droughts are every bit as bad as any other natural disaster, but much worse in mortality. Hurricanes, tornado's etc leave visible damage, but so do droughts look at the fires associated with droughts. Those fires destroy houses and render much of the landscape obliterated. In other words Trump was completely wrong and an ass for saying what he said.
 
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