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So Trump Rushed the DACA Decision to appease a Few Republicans before a Law Suite

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15 states, D.C. file lawsuit challenging Trump's DACA shutdown


Fifteen states and the District of Columbia filed a lawsuit here Wednesday challenging President Trump's plan to end a program protecting young immigrants from deportation.

The suit was first announced by Washington state Atty. Gen. Bob Ferguson, who called Trump's act “a dark time for our country.”

Plaintiffs include New York, Massachusetts, Washington, Connecticut, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont and Virginia

On Tuesday, U.S. Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions said the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, will end in six months, giving Congress time to find a legislative solution for the immigrants.



Read more: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...s-it-will-join-with-1504720942-htmlstory.html
 
Cigar said:
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15 states, D.C. file lawsuit challenging Trump's DACA shutdown


Fifteen states and the District of Columbia filed a lawsuit here Wednesday challenging President Trump's plan to end a program protecting young immigrants from deportation.

The suit was first announced by Washington state Atty. Gen. Bob Ferguson, who called Trump's act “a dark time for our country.”

Plaintiffs include New York, Massachusetts, Washington, Connecticut, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont and Virginia

On Tuesday, U.S. Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions said the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, will end in six months, giving Congress time to find a legislative solution for the immigrants.



Read more: 15 states, D.C. file lawsuit challenging Trump's DACA shutdown - LA Times
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Can you say, "Not a leg to stand on"?
 
Cigar said:
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15 states, D.C. file lawsuit challenging Trump's DACA shutdown


Fifteen states and the District of Columbia filed a lawsuit here Wednesday challenging President Trump's plan to end a program protecting young immigrants from deportation.

The suit was first announced by Washington state Atty. Gen. Bob Ferguson, who called Trump's act “a dark time for our country.”

Plaintiffs include New York, Massachusetts, Washington, Connecticut, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont and Virginia

On Tuesday, U.S. Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions said the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, will end in six months, giving Congress time to find a legislative solution for the immigrants.



Read more: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...s-it-will-join-with-1504720942-htmlstory.html
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I don't know if they have a case. An EO created it, an EO can end it, correct? This isn't law, it was never passed through the Legislature. Correct?
 
Ikari said:
I don't know if they have a case. An EO created it, an EO can end it, correct? This isn't law, it was never passed through the Legislature. Correct?
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Having a case is no longer necessary as we found out during the Obama years. Now politicians and others can simply ignore Trump and do whatever they want anyway.

Look, the Generals have been doing this for months now.
 
Ikari said:
I don't know if they have a case. An EO created it, an EO can end it, correct? This isn't law, it was never passed through the Legislature. Correct?
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Obama said it was a 'temporary' act in 2012. It's over.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
This is America @2017, and SCOTUS is now more a political body than a law body, so dont count on it.
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It would castrate the POTUS's ability to issue them in the first place if they couldn't be undone.
 
It is clear to me that Trump is out to embarrass the elite as much as he can while he still can. If the Elite use the courts to roadblock the President the people picked, which would be in violation of the law in this case, then the courts are further diminished. If this is yet one more thing that Congress cant get done then Congress is further diminished.
 
Ikari said:
I don't know if they have a case. An EO created it, an EO can end it, correct? This isn't law, it was never passed through the Legislature. Correct?
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Correct. They don't have a prayer. It would be like trying to sue to stop a Congressional declaration of war.
 
Cigar said:
Having a case is no longer necessary as we found out during the Obama years. Now politicians and others can simply ignore Trump and do whatever they want anyway.

Look, the Generals have been doing this for months now.
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I think having a case should always be necessary. I'm no Trump fan, but this was an EO and can be undone with an EO. It's a reason why the President shouldn't try to legislate through EO, it's too easily undone and undoing can cause quite a lot of difficulties. Something like this should have been passed through Legislature in the first place.
 
MaggieD said:
It would castrate the POTUS's ability to issue them in the first place if they couldn't be undone.
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There seems to be a fantasy that they can return power to the Presidency after Trump is sent packing, but what this does is drive home that there really are no rules, that in fact the elite do what they want to do, and then paper over the so-called justification after they have decided what they are going to do.

Like Children do.
 
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Harshaw said:
Correct. They don't have a prayer. It would be like trying to sue to stop a Congressional declaration of war.
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i agree they do not have standing to sue but i bet they find a friggen liberal judge that will rule otherwise.
 
Ikari said:
I think having a case should always be necessary. I'm no Trump fan, but this was an EO and can be undone with an EO. It's a reason why the President shouldn't try to legislate through EO, it's too easily undone and undoing can cause quite a lot of difficulties. Something like this should have been passed through Legislature in the first place.
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now trump is giving them the chance to do it.
the question is will congress do something about it.
 
I love this:

They urged a federal judge in Brooklyn to block the move to rescind the Obama-era program on the grounds the reversal is “unauthorized by and contrary to the Constitution and laws of the United States.”
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DACA itself is not authorized by the Constitution (something Obama agreed with at one time), nor by the actual laws of the United States, which was Obama's entire justification for it.
 
Harshaw said:
I love this:



DACA itself is not authorized by the Constitution (something Obama agreed with at one time), nor by the actual laws of the United States, which was Obama's entire justification for it.
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Truth and logic find themselves very unwelcome in the halls of power anymore.
 
Cigar said:
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15 states, D.C. file lawsuit challenging Trump's DACA shutdown


Fifteen states and the District of Columbia filed a lawsuit here Wednesday challenging President Trump's plan to end a program protecting young immigrants from deportation.

The suit was first announced by Washington state Atty. Gen. Bob Ferguson, who called Trump's act “a dark time for our country.”

Plaintiffs include New York, Massachusetts, Washington, Connecticut, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont and Virginia

On Tuesday, U.S. Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions said the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, will end in six months, giving Congress time to find a legislative solution for the immigrants.



Read more: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...s-it-will-join-with-1504720942-htmlstory.html
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I think the rush here was you, what the hell is a law SUITE? Is that a fancy office?
 
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