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Alabama Anti Mask laws being used on Antifa

dirtpoorchris said:


Is it just me or do these guys look really deflated and defeated when you take their masks away? I guess in Alabama they have anti masking laws used to stop violence done by KKK in the past and now its being used on Antifa.
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How poetic.
 
jimbo said:
Virginia law reads as follows: (In part)
It shall be unlawful for any person over 16 years of age to, with the intent to conceal his identity, wear any mask, hood or other device whereby a substantial portion of the face is hidden or covered so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, to be or appear in any public place, or upon any private property in this Commonwealth without first having obtained from the owner or tenant thereof consent to do so in writing. However, the provisions of this section shall not apply to persons (i) wearing traditional holiday costumes; (ii) engaged in professions, trades, employment or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer or other persons;

It goes on to exclude protective or medical masks.
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That 'intent' thing lets a bunch of stuff slide by, too. Probably never gets that cold in Virginia but Balaclava's were invented for a reason that most Canadians, and lots of Americans in northern states, know only too well.
 
Jesse Booth said:
Have we ever airdropped troops in the arctic? I can't imagine who we'd be attacking that far north. Was Scandinavia an Axis power or something?
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Why Army Paratroopers Are Training in the Arctic

"The training exercise, dubbed Spartan Pegasus 2017, involved the simulated recovery of a downed satellite. Airborne scouts from the Alaska-based 1st Squadron, 40th Cavalry Regiment and 1st Squadron, 25th Cavalry dropped from U.S. Air Force C-17 Globemaster III transport planes into minus-35 degrees Fahrenheit weather."

Well...yes.

Cold rescue and recovery missions.
 
Grand Mal said:
That 'intent' thing lets a bunch of stuff slide by, too. Probably never gets that cold in Virginia but Balaclava's were invented for a reason that most Canadians, and lots of Americans in northern states, know only too well.
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There is little doubt that when you wear a mask to a fight in summer the intent is clear.
 
jimbo said:
There is little doubt that when you wear a mask to a fight in summer the intent is clear.
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To keep the blood out of your eyes?
Hey, I encourage the practice. Makes the players easy to identify. I might have grown up in an obscure Canadian backwater but I have enough street savvy to know that you don't want to be an obvious target when the excrement hits the fan, and you want to be able to book 'er into the crowd if it starts to go badly.
Masks over on that side, swastikas over there, now we have targets on everyone that deserves to be targeted.
 
akyron said:
Why Army Paratroopers Are Training in the Arctic

"The training exercise, dubbed Spartan Pegasus 2017, involved the simulated recovery of a downed satellite. Airborne scouts from the Alaska-based 1st Squadron, 40th Cavalry Regiment and 1st Squadron, 25th Cavalry dropped from U.S. Air Force C-17 Globemaster III transport planes into minus-35 degrees Fahrenheit weather."

Well...yes.

Cold rescue and recovery missions.
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Training and a few far north battles, from the two answers I've gotten. Thank you.
 
volsrock said:
yup...right into a bank
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awww man... you can't wear one while robbing a bank?

dang... I guess I shouldn't rob a bank.... totally would have done it if it wasn't for that damn mask law.
 
joG said:
In Europe they have them to prevent women from wearing burkas.
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What a load of utter bull****. Really shows how little you know of Europe.

Anti-mask laws have been in place in many countries since the 70-80s, when it was used against anarchist and communist groups. Burka bans are populist bull**** laws that are not needed because we already have the anti-mask laws.. just enforce that law.
 
Jesse Booth said:
If you find that anti-KKK legislation is a thorn in your side, you should probably reconsider your behavior.
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Either of these stains on our society are embarrassments to all of us.
 
Flouncy Magoo said:
Antifa don't want to be murdered in the night by neither Nazis, nor their many friends in police and government.

100 years of KKK wearing masks with absolutely no consequences at all, but now it's suddenly a problem when people courageously protect others from violent, murderous, terrorist Nazis.

The racist terrorists are winning. I can tell you love it.
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Wow! I mean, WOW!

So, you like hate filled, violent repression of others, but you want to choose those who will be repressed with the hate filled violence.

Interesting set of ethics you employ.
 
PeteEU said:
What a load of utter bull****. Really shows how little you know of Europe.

Anti-mask laws have been in place in many countries since the 70-80s, when it was used against anarchist and communist groups. Burka bans are populist bull**** laws that are not needed because we already have the anti-mask laws.. just enforce that law.
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Populist the bans might be. They are real nonetheless. And, what is more interesting is that you seem not to have even looked up, when the laws were passed. Germany's is from June 2017, France October 2010, Austria June 2017, Holland November 2016 etc etc. That sounds either uninformed or not honest. That the texts are careful not to break the various constitutional laws is clear and leave the religious unprotected. That they forbid a practice that the religious consider religious practice is ignored. But anybody that follows the public discussions in Parliament or the media, listens to politicians in interviews knows exactly why these laws were passed. Because it was said over and again.
 
joG said:
Populist the bans might be. They are real nonetheless. And, what is more interesting is that you seem not to have even looked up, when the laws were passed. Germany's is from June 2017, France October 2010, Austria June 2017, Holland November 2016 etc etc. That sounds either uninformed or not honest. That the texts are careful not to break the various constitutional laws is clear and leave the religious unprotected. That they forbid a practice that the religious consider religious practice is ignored. But anybody that follows the public discussions in Parliament or the media, listens to politicians in interviews knows exactly why these laws were passed. Because it was said over and again.
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Why dont you just give up.

Germany´s anti-Mask law started in 1985. And yes a simple google by your part would have found this.

As for France, yes theirs is recent. Denmarks is officially from 2000, but defacto other legislation was used before that. The UKs originated in the 1800s. It varies from country to country and is in many cases historic.

For example, before democracy came to Spain and Greece, covering your face was illegal and often got you killed. After democracy came, there was resistance to anti-masking laws, and hence any restrictions are relatively new. Where as in the UK, it was punishable by death in the 1800s.

And **** religious protection.. there is no religion that mandates the covering of the face, but the alt-right is using populist racism and ignorance to push draconian laws banning traditions of minorities instead of just using existing laws to stop the practices.
 
Flouncy Magoo said:
Antifa don't want to be murdered in the night by neither Nazis, nor their many friends in police and government.

100 years of KKK wearing masks with absolutely no consequences at all, but now it's suddenly a problem when people courageously protect others from violent, murderous, terrorist Nazis.
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Why then, do Antifans attack innocent bystanders, reporters, anyone filming them, and police? Is that your definition of courage? :roll:
 
PeteEU said:
Why dont you just give up.

Germany´s anti-Mask law started in 1985. And yes a simple google by your part would have found this.

As for France, yes theirs is recent. Denmarks is officially from 2000, but defacto other legislation was used before that. The UKs originated in the 1800s. It varies from country to country and is in many cases historic.

For example, before democracy came to Spain and Greece, covering your face was illegal and often got you killed. After democracy came, there was resistance to anti-masking laws, and hence any restrictions are relatively new. Where as in the UK, it was punishable by death in the 1800s.

And **** religious protection.. there is no religion that mandates the covering of the face, but the alt-right is using populist racism and ignorance to push draconian laws banning traditions of minorities instead of just using existing laws to stop the practices.
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Why do you misrepresent the situation. When the Minister of the Interior in justifying his law says "We are not Burka" even an innocent depp understands, what he means. https://www.google.de/amp/www.teleg...-not-burka-says-german-interior-minister/amp/

There were similar things said by Sarkozy in 2009, who said in arguing their law that religious face veils were not welcome in France. This does sound as though you are not quite candid in your assertions. But maybe, if you do a quick Google you will find the original quotes. Sarkozy's is even mentioned in Wikipedia. Oh, invade you didn't know. Sarkozy was President of France.
 
Flouncy Magoo said:
Antifa don't want to be murdered in the night by neither Nazis, nor their many friends in police and government.

100 years of KKK wearing masks with absolutely no consequences at all, but now it's suddenly a problem when people courageously protect others from violent, murderous, terrorist Nazis.

The racist terrorists are winning. I can tell you love it.
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I don't need those antifa scumbags to protect me. Those pieces of **** are just as dangerous as the nazis and they all deserve to be shot like dogs.
 
celticwar17 said:
awww man... you can't wear one while robbing a bank?

dang... I guess I shouldn't rob a bank.... totally would have done it if it wasn't for that damn mask law.
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But, if you do decide to rob a bank, or riot, or burn a cross on someone's lawn, then it would be a good idea to wear one.
 
We don't allow sheets either.
Cowards cower their faces. Peaceful protesters have nothing to hide.
 
Grand Mal said:
When I rode a motorcycle in cold weather, I'd wrap a scarf from under my eyes down over my throat. Maybe that'd be against the law, too.
Come to think of it, a full-face helmet with tinted shield hides your face better than any mask.
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Are you trashing up neighborhoods when you ride?
 
Chomsky said:
I can't stand these masked pricks. Or any others that use masks to get away with misdeeds or intimidation.

But this law brings up an interesting question:

"Do those practicing religion need to unmask?"

If not, there's a loophole.
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Interesting question. I'd suspect that this pertains to unlawful or violent assembly.
I haven't looked for anyone posting the specific law or a reasonable interpretation, but my guess would be that exceptions are common to accommodate religious preferences.
 
Lovebug said:
Interesting question. I'd suspect that this pertains to unlawful or violent assembly.
I haven't looked for anyone posting the specific law or a reasonable interpretation, but my guess would be that exceptions are common to accommodate religious preferences.
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There'd better be other exceptions, too. Those balaclavas weren't invented to hide identity, they're for cold, windy weather. Not a consideration in Virginia, maybe, but people who work outside in Montana or North Dakota know what they're for.
 
Flouncy Magoo said:
Antifa don't want to be murdered in the night by neither Nazis, nor their many friends in police and government.

100 years of KKK wearing masks with absolutely no consequences at all, but now it's suddenly a problem when people courageously protect others from violent, murderous, terrorist Nazis.

The racist terrorists are winning. I can tell you love it.
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I know, did you see all those racist helping rescue the folks in Texas, there was even a boat with a rebel flag on it with black folks in it. I didn't get to see if antifa was helping, with them so worried about people's well being why weren't they there helping.



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Dittohead not! said:
But, if you do decide to rob a bank, or riot, or burn a cross on someone's lawn, then it would be a good idea to wear one.
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But.... there is a law against it.... and we all know people who rob banks and riot care about the laws.
 
dirtpoorchris said:


Is it just me or do these guys look really deflated and defeated when you take their masks away? I guess in Alabama they have anti masking laws used to stop violence done by KKK in the past and now its being used on Antifa.
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Those anti mask laws just cross over to antifa. Long before antifa became active in america we had the guys in white robes and pointy hats to hide their identity, who would beat people who opposed their cause. Now we have another group doing the same but instead of a racist cause it is over political affilliation and ideology.


The laws there serve well, those protesting or showing up to riots in masks are doing so to hide their identity, just like in the past when it was the kkk the mayor of a city might have been right there with them, knowing as an anonymous concealed group he could get away with it, like then it is the same now, unmask them they cower, they want to hide their illegal activity while preserving their personal character in their daily lives.
 
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