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How Black American's Should View the "Liberals for Reparations" Race Bait Narrative.

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This is from Malcolm X back in the days of change:



"White Liberals (from both Party's) differ from the White Conservatives in only one way, the Liberal is more deceitful, more hypocritical than the Conservative...posing as the Negro's friend and benefactor and by winning the friendship and support of the Negro is able to use the Negro as a pawn or a weapon in this political football game constantly raging between the Liberal and Conservative."
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Malcolm X


Now these are from (IMO) two intelligent young Black American peers of today in response to the BLM leader's "10 Demands for White People.":



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Stop looking for handouts. Give up the "everyone owes me because "Slavery!" meme.

Instead, embrace the work hard, study hard, and self-motivate ethic that is a proven method of personal success.
 
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LOL like black people should give a damn what Conservatives have to say about us.

In case you haven't checked the 2016 exit polls we've politically seceded from your culture. 88% of black men voted for Hillary, as did 94% of black women. And after Trump, we're never coming back.

Keep shouting, no one's listening, except maybe Ben Carson.
 
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Whoa, Malcolm X? Someone here claimed wearing a hat with an 'X' means one is a racist (Kaepernick).
 
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Captain Adverse said:
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Red Pill Black is one of the very few YouTube channels that I am actually subscribed to. I find her one of the most intelligent, and funny, young people on the internet. I loved her spoof video to her Mom and Dad.
 
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ecofarm said:
Whoa, Malcolm X? Someone here claimed wearing a hat with an 'X' means one is a racist (Kaepernick).
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Against all better judgment...

What at all about the OP would lead anyone to think otherwise about Malcolm X? Being racist against whites doesn't mean that he can't have accurate views about certain situations, like his dislike of the way the liberals use the black man as a pawn for political gain, at the complete expense to the said black man.

BTW, for the edification of the rest of you folks, that "someone here" was ---> me.
 
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Zalatix said:
LOL like black people should give a damn what Conservatives have to say about us.

In case you haven't checked the 2016 exit polls we've politically seceded from your culture. 88% of black men voted for Hillary, as did 94% of black women. And after Trump, we're never coming back.

Keep shouting, no one's listening, except maybe Ben Carson.
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That's the problem. No one who SHOULD BE is listening.

Instead? The perpetual victimhood mentality prevails.

Ignore all the examples of successful Black Americans, and the steps they took to achieve success...even back during the Jim Crow days. No, they were just (Insert derogatory term here) kissing up to the white man. :roll:

Let's just demand more freebees and reparations. After all, we are owed it. :doh
 
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I don't believe in monetary reparations but the government has some responsibility to try and help fix the problem they created.

If Black men had been allowed the same jobs as White men--police officer, garbage man, postal worker--Blacks would have incomes closer to Whites today.

I think the government should do more to help those it harmed. Not just Blacks but also Native Americans. It's breaks my heart when I see what happened to Native Americans and the awful conditions in reservations.
 
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Beaudreaux said:
Against all better judgment...

What at all about the OP would lead anyone to think otherwise about Malcolm X?

BTW, that "someone here" was ---> me.
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You were the guy claiming Kaepernick is a racist because he wore an X hat? Sigh. And sometimes you make good posts. It's a wonder.

If wearing an X hat makes one a racist, surely pushing his words does, right?
 
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SonOfDaedalus said:
I don't believe in monetary reparations but the government has some responsibility to try and help fix the problem they created.

If Black men had been allowed the same jobs as White men--police officer, garbage man, postal worker--Blacks would have incomes closer to Whites today.

I think the government should do more to help those it harmed. Not just Blacks but also Native Americans. It's breaks my heart when I see what happened to Native Americans and the awful conditions in reservations.
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The real blow to people of color came with the Land Rush of 1889, in which only whites were allowed to get all that free land. TWO MILLION ACRES of land.

That permanently cemented racial wealth disparity. No amount of reparations can fix things when you give that much land to one racial group, the consequences of a racially exclusive land grab as big as the 1889 land rush can go on for a thousand years, or more.
 
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ecofarm said:
You were the guy claiming Kaepernick is a racist because he wore an X hat? Sigh. And sometimes you make good posts. It's a wonder.

If wearing an X hat makes one a racist, surely pushing his words does, right?
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Malcolm X was racist against white people. Read his own statements, and listen to his recorded interviews. By extension, and by your own stated rules on the subject, anyone that wears his X on a hat or anywhere else, is just as guilty of perpetuating his racist ideals as a person that wears a blue X with white stars on a red background.

BTW, him wearing an X hat was just one of the points I made when you defended his racist acts as not being racist, and here we are again.
 
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Beaudreaux said:
Malcolm X was racist against white people. Read his own statements, and listen to his recorded interviews. By extension, and by your own stated rules on the subject, anyone that wears his X on a hat or anywhere else, is just as guilty of perpetuating his racist ideals as a person that wears a blue X with white stars on a red background.
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These are your rules, not mine. I don't think Kaepernick or anyone else is a racist for wearing an X hat, or pushing X quotes.
 
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Zalatix said:
The real blow to people of color came with the Land Rush of 1889, in which only whites were allowed to get all that free land. TWO MILLION ACRES of land.

That permanently cemented racial wealth disparity. No amount of reparations can fix things when you give that much land to one racial group, the consequences of a racially exclusive land grab as big as the 1889 land rush can go on for a thousand years, or more.
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I didn't know that.
 
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SonOfDaedalus said:
I didn't know that.
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Lots of people don't know that. I didn't know it until recently.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
Stop looking for handouts. Give up the "everyone owes me because "Slavery!" meme.

Instead, embrace the work hard, study hard, and self-motivate ethic that is a proven method of personal success.
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Like most conservatives, you're overly obsessed with fringe leftist beliefs. How many Black people do you think agree that Whites should give up their homes to Black families?

When BLM protest police brutality then lots of Blacks will march with them. But that doesn't mean they are aware or support every belief the BLM founders have.

It's the equivalent of me pointing to White Nationalists as an example of conservatives.
 
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ecofarm said:
These are your rules, not mine. I don't think Kaepernick or anyone else is a racist for wearing an X hat, or pushing X quotes.
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Is a person a racist by extension, or association, when they wear a Confederate flag? That was the blue X with white stars on a red background I was discussing. If you say no, then we are in partial agreement, at least on the part that just wearing an X of any sort doesn't make a person guilty of thought crimes.

Malcom X, however, was a racist by the very definition of the word. CK is a racist for a number of reasons, that are not lessened at all even if we dismiss the fact that he wears a racist man's symbol on his head.

EDIT ADDED --- Like I said to you in the other thread about Malcolm X, his X on CK's hat, and CK himself... I like you and respect you. We, however, will never agree regarding the definition of racist. So, let's just stop here before we go too far down that rabbit hole.
 
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Beaudreaux said:
Is a person a racist by extension, or association, when they wear a Confederate flag? That was the blue X with white stars on a red background I was discussing. If you say no, then we are in partial agreement, at least on the part that just wearing an X of any sort doesn't make a person guilty of thought crimes.

Malcom X, however, was a racist by the very definition of the word. CK is a racist for a number of reasons, that are not lessened at all even if we dismiss the fact that he wears a racist man's symbol on his head.
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X stood for many things, later in life he went kinda nuts. One cannot presume support of Nation of Islam from the wearing of the hat. The flag stands for one thing - the war against the US for slavery. It doesn't stand for country living, good manners and gentlemanly behavior. Stop trying to feed people that horse crap.
 
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SenorXm/Sirius said:
Cobb County police officer seen on video telling motorist, "We only kill black people"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/greg-abbott-cobb-county-police-officer-seen-on-video-telling-motorist-we-only-shoot-black-people/
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I made a thread about that. The right wing Nazis on here already made up an excuse that the cop was joking. They shut the hell up when I told them to say the same thing about people joking about killing cops.
 
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ecofarm said:
X stood for many things, later in life he went kinda nuts. One cannot presume support of Nation of Islam from the wearing of the hat. The flag stands for one thing - the war against the US for slavery. It doesn't stand for country living, good manners and gentlemanly behavior. Stop trying to feed people that horse crap.
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I'm not defending the flag, or condemning anyone that wears Malcolm's X. In fact, I'm not condemning or defending either one. The Nation of Islam is a racist black supremacist hate group, just as the New Black Panther Party is although the NBPP is a hell of a lot more militant and subversive to peaceful society in their threats of violence.

According to Malcolm himself, the X stood for the exorcism of the white man's names that were forced upon the black man by his slave masters. I don't have a problem with that.

Like I said to you in the other thread about Malcolm X, his X on CK's hat, and CK himself, and like I said in the previous post of mine... I like you and respect you. We, however, will never agree regarding the definition of racist. So, let's just stop here before we go too far down that rabbit hole.
 
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:lamo
 
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Beaudreaux said:
I'm not defending the flag, or condemning anyone that wears Malcolm's X. In fact, I'm not condemning or defending either one. The Nation of Islam is a racist black supremacist hate group, just as the New Black Panther Party is although the NBPP is a hell of a lot more militant and subversive to peaceful society in their threats of violence.

According to Malcolm himself, the X stood for the exorcism of the white man's names that were forced upon the black man by his slave masters. I don't have a problem with that.

Like I said to you in the other thread about Malcolm X, his X on CK's hat, and CK himself, and like I said in the previous post of mine... I like you and respect you. We, however, will never agree regarding the definition of racist. So, let's just stop here before we go too far down that rabbit hole.
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Does Kaepernick contribute to social disadvantage or injustice against a race?
 
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Zalatix said:
LOL like black people should give a damn what Conservatives have to say about us.

In case you haven't checked the 2016 exit polls we've politically seceded from your culture. 88% of black men voted for Hillary, as did 94% of black women. And after Trump, we're never coming back.

Keep shouting, no one's listening, except maybe Ben Carson.
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Malcolm X said liberal whites are lying pieces of ****. It doesn't much matter to me, except it confirms what we've always said about liberals. They've been lying to blacks since the start.
 
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Zalatix said:
The real blow to people of color came with the Land Rush of 1889, in which only whites were allowed to get all that free land. TWO MILLION ACRES of land.

That permanently cemented racial wealth disparity. No amount of reparations can fix things when you give that much land to one racial group, the consequences of a racially exclusive land grab as big as the 1889 land rush can go on for a thousand years, or more.
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I think you might be misquoting history a tad.

The "Land Rush of 1889" was a very specific event, designed to populate Oklahoma:

The Oklahoma Land Rush of 1889 was the first land rush into the Unassigned Lands. The area that was opened to settlement included all or part of the present-day Canadian, Cleveland, Kingfisher, Logan, Oklahoma, and Payne counties of the US state of Oklahoma.[1] The land run started at high noon on April 22, 1889, with an estimated 50,000 people lined up for their piece of the available two million acres (8,000*km²).
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rush_of_1889

Meanwhile there had been several attempt's at mass-populating the western territories, including but not limited to:

The Homestead Act of 1862:

The homestead was an area of public land in the West (usually 160 acres or 0.65*km2) granted to any US citizen willing to settle on and farm the land for at least five years. The law (and those following it) required a three-step procedure: file an application, improve the land, and file for deed of title. Any citizen who had never taken up arms against the U.S. government (including freed slaves after the fourteenth amendment) and was at least 21 years old or the head of a household, could file an application to claim a federal land grant.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_Acts#Southern_Homestead_Act_of_1866

Then there was the Southern Homestead Act of 1866:

Until January 1, 1867, the bill specified, only free Blacks and loyal Whites would be allowed access to these lands. Accordingly, the primary beneficiaries for the first six months were freedmen who were in desperate need of land to till. Ultimately, before too much land was distributed, the law was repealed in June 1876.[4] Nevertheless, free Blacks entered about 6,500 claims to homesteads, and about 1,000 of these eventually resulted in property certificates.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Homestead_Act_of_1866

Homesteading requirement:

The Homestead Acts had few qualifying requirements. A homesteader[17] had to be the head of the household or at least twenty-one years old (EDIT: this already included free Blacks as opposed to "freed" Blacks. See last sentence of this quote for them). They had to live on the designated land, build a home, make improvements, and farm it for a minimum of five years.[18] The filing fee was eighteen dollars (or ten to temporarily hold a claim to the land). Immigrants, farmers without their own land, single women, and former slaves could all qualify.
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So, where was this problem you are talking about? :confused:
 
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Captain Adverse said:
I think you might be misquoting history a tad.

The "Land Rush of 1889" was a very specific event, designed to populate Oklahoma:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rush_of_1889

Meanwhile there had been several attempt's at mass-populating the western territories, including but not limited to:

The Homestead Act of 1862:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_Acts#Southern_Homestead_Act_of_1866

Then there was the Southern Homestead Act of 1866:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Homestead_Act_of_1866

Homesteading requirement:



So, where was this problem you are talking about? :confused:
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6,500 claims to homesteads, and about 1,000 of these eventually resulted in property certificates.

vs

50,000

Math, it's a wonderful thing.
 
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