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Do you support Antifa?

Do you support Antifa?

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Jetboogieman said:
Can't we just play by your rules?

Like when you suddenly decided to redefine what white nationalists is, or say that Trumps proposed total Muslim shut down had nothing to do with appealing to Islamaphobes.

Yes, there are plenty of "peaceful" Antifa protests because I'm using your rules which is I get to decide reality is whatever I want it to be.
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I haven't said there aren't peaceful Antifa protests. I just haven't been able to find an example of one.

I can explain why I don't like the term 'white nationalist' and so far nobody has been able to show how Trump is appealing to Islamophobes with his policies so that I think is fair game for discussion.

But by all means, maybe you can improve your batting average by finding some examples of peaceful Antifa protests for me?
 
Gaius46 said:
I'll take Smoke's word for it because I frankly don't have time to research it myself. My point though that violent tactics on their part are bound to fail really has nothing to do with whether all-Antifa types espouse violence or just most or some of them.
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As I told another member, I haven't said there are no peaceful Antifa protests. I just haven't been able to find an example of one. And they fail only when people don't defend them because of their stated politically correct 'purpose' which pretty much falls apart based on their behavior.
 
ksu_aviator said:
CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and so on.
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Really? Can you prove that? And just for the record, if they are violent and attack without provocation then the are really wrong, very wrong.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
So, IOW, no. They're not actually supporting the antifa in any meaningful manner.
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Of course they are. By not exposing who they are or what they stand for, the major news networks tacitly support ANTIFA. They have the capacity to investigate and expose who these people are. Do you think these kids would be so bold if the entire country knew how hate filled and vile they are? The anonymity that the press has given them is emboldening them to continue what they do.

As for whether or not the left likes them, the Bernie Sanders supporters of DSA have tweeted their support and can be seen in most videos as standing beside and with ANTIFA. They call themselves democrats. They vote for democrats. Democrats pandora to them and consider them their base. By association, ANTIFA is very closely related to the Democratic Party.


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ksu_aviator said:
Of course they are. By not exposing who they are or what they stand for, the major news networks tacitly support ANTIFA. They have the capacity to investigate and expose who these people are. Do you think these kids would be so bold if the entire country knew how hate filled and vile they are? The anonymity that the press has given them is emboldening them to continue what they do.

As for whether or not the left likes them, the Bernie Sanders supporters of DSA have tweeted their support and can be seen in most videos as standing beside and with ANTIFA. They call themselves democrats. They vote for democrats. Democrats pandora to them and consider them their base. By association, ANTIFA is very closely related to the Democratic Party.


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Ah, so your entire fantasy revolves around your assertion of 'tacit'.

Good luck with that. You'll need it.
 
ksu_aviator said:
Of course they are. By not exposing who they are or what they stand for, the major news networks tacitly support ANTIFA. They have the capacity to investigate and expose who these people are. Do you think these kids would be so bold if the entire country knew how hate filled and vile they are? The anonymity that the press has given them is emboldening them to continue what they do.

As for whether or not the left likes them, the Bernie Sanders supporters of DSA have tweeted their support and can be seen in most videos as standing beside and with ANTIFA. They call themselves democrats. They vote for democrats. Democrats pandora to them and consider them their base. By association, ANTIFA is very closely related to the Democratic Party.


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If you read/ listened to anything outside of Breitbart or the World Nut Daily, you'd know that the mainstream media is not ignoring ANTIFA, and that it does report on their violent actions.

Now, let's examine your logic:

Antifa is an anarchist movement.
Anarchists, by definition, want no government.
Democrats are known to support bigger government (Republicans, too, but they won't admit it)
Therefore, Antifa is supported by Democrats.

Anyone see any sort of illogic there?
 
Dittohead not! said:
If you read/ listened to anything outside of Breitbart or the World Nut Daily, you'd know that the mainstream media is not ignoring ANTIFA, and that it does report on their violent actions.

Now, let's examine your logic:

Antifa is an anarchist movement.
Anarchists, by definition, want no government.
Democrats are known to support bigger government (Republicans, too, but they won't admit it)
Therefore, Antifa is supported by Democrats.

Anyone see any sort of illogic there?
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First, I don't read Breitbart or World Net Daily. I read and watch OANN. I also watch NBC nightly news most nights.

Second, yes democrats support ANTIFA, even if they classify themselves as anarchists. These brats actually think that anarchy will lead to socialism and that, under socialism, there will be no government. (I never said they were smart) They also think that others should be forced to believe what they believe (not exactly an anti-government view) and that violence is justified against white men (link below). Because they are for socialism and will support the steps it takes to get to socialism, they vote for democrats. Democrats are seen as socialist friendly and that isn't without merit.

BTW, the following video is definitely NSFW.

https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/899993905751617536
 
ksu_aviator said:
First, I don't read Breitbart or World Net Daily. I read and watch OANN. I also watch NBC nightly news most nights.

Second, yes democrats support ANTIFA, even if they classify themselves as anarchists. These brats actually think that anarchy will lead to socialism and that, under socialism, there will be no government. (I never said they were smart) They also think that others should be forced to believe what they believe (not exactly an anti-government view) and that violence is justified against white men (link below). Because they are for socialism and will support the steps it takes to get to socialism, they vote for democrats. Democrats are seen as socialist friendly and that isn't without merit.

BTW, the following video is definitely NSFW.

https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/899993905751617536
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How could you possibly have such a twisted world view without a steady diet of RWNJ media?
Most Democrats support Antifa?
Democrats are socialists?
Democrats think that anarchy will lead to socialism?

I doubt you can support any of those statements without relying on the RWNJ media.
 
Dittohead not! said:
How could you possibly have such a twisted world view without a steady diet of RWNJ media?
Most Democrats support Antifa?
Democrats are socialists?
Democrats think that anarchy will lead to socialism?

I doubt you can support any of those statements without relying on the RWNJ media.
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Lmao...see...why do you think the only way I can come to a conclusion is with someone else's help? Especially when the conclusion is true.

As for Democrats supporting ANTIFA, it is simple. They won't out and out say it, but they love ANTIFA attacking white males and conservatives. All but a few Democrats have withheld condemnation of ANTIFA, including people like Terri McAuliffe. http://redalertpolitics.com/2017/08...-side-gov-mcauliffe-wont-condemn-antifa-name/

I said democrats support policies that are socialist friendly. Socialists like what Democrats do. Let's not forget President Obama (then Sen or State Sen) said "I hhappen to be a proponent of a single-payer healthcare system".

I said DSA and ANTIFA think anarchy will lead to socialism. Stop twisting my words.


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ksu_aviator said:
Lmao...see...why do you think the only way I can come to a conclusion is with someone else's help? Especially when the conclusion is true.

As for Democrats supporting ANTIFA, it is simple. They won't out and out say it, but they love ANTIFA attacking white males and conservatives. All but a few Democrats have withheld condemnation of ANTIFA, including people like Terri McAuliffe. Denouncing 'violence on any side': Gov. McAuliffe won't condemn 'Antifa' by name - Red Alert Politics

I said democrats support policies that are socialist friendly. Socialists like what Democrats do. Let's not forget President Obama (then Sen or State Sen) said "I hhappen to be a proponent of a single-payer healthcare system".

I said DSA and ANTIFA think anarchy will lead to socialism. Stop twisting my words.


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Your link says:


Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe (D) was a vocal critic of President Trump’s response to the violence in Charlottesville committed by white supremacists that killed one woman and injured dozens more. However, the Democratic Governor has refused to explicitly denounce the violence committed by Antifa, where both Trump supporters and journalists were assaulted on Sunday in Berkeley, California.
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The Governor of Virginia, who is a Democrat, won't specifically name Antifa, and therefore Democrats support Antifa.

And you claim you can come to a conclusion without anyone else's help.

Well, as long as it's not a logical conclusion, you have a point.
 
Dittohead not! said:
The Governor of Virginia, who is a Democrat, won't specifically name Antifa, and therefore Democrats support Antifa.
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That's because Antifa came to protest Nazis. It doesn't make much sense to denounce them. And it's a Nazi that killed that woman.

Also, Antifa wasn't going around saying that the Governor supported them the way the Nazis and White Nationalists did about Trump. You want to send a clear message to the racists and not confuse it by discussing a violent but anti-racist group.

You can defend Trump all you want but the bottom line is racists thanked him for his press conference. That's the bottom line. You can twist reality all you want but the racist Richard Spencer said he was "really proud of him."

When you defend Trump's stupidity you lose credibility regarding other issues.
 
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