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Venezuela: Now Everyone Suffers

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From The Guardian (UK)

Hunger eats away at Venezuela’s soul as its people struggle to survive. The Maduro regime denies its once oil-rich country is in crisis. But on the streets the desperation cannot be hidden.
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The Guardian tells about a 14 year old girl who braves the violence of the streets at night to ply her trade as a prostitute, a job she was forced into after her mother was fired and the family ran out of food.

But as long as the Maduro government remains determined it doesn't matter how miserable everyone is. The regime can still hold onto power, and a great many American leftists have enabled them. I can hear them now. They will say that there are plenty of under aged prostitutes in the streets of American cities, and this story means nothing. Not the suffering of the people, not the overwhelming evidence of malgovernance, nothing will make them acknowledge that Venezuela took the wrong path.
 
LowDown said:
From The Guardian (UK)



The Guardian tells about a 14 year old girl who braves the violence of the streets at night to ply her trade as a prostitute, a job she was forced into after her mother was fired and the family ran out of food.

But as long as the Maduro government remains determined it doesn't matter how miserable everyone is. The regime can still hold onto power, and a great many American leftists have enabled them. I can hear them now. They will say that there are plenty of under aged prostitutes in the streets of American cities, and this story means nothing. Not the suffering of the people, not the overwhelming evidence of malgovernance, nothing will make them acknowledge that Venezuela took the wrong path.
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Goddammit you post some real trash, using the suffering of an entire people and worse this time a 14 year old girl who's had to become a prostitute to survive, to make the cheapest of cheapest political points.

It is obvious, to anyone with a working brain that Venezuelas government is a cluster**** that has ****ed up their entire country.

But people like you use it to say, that despite the fact that it works in almost the entire industrialized world, that things like UHC as an example, inevitably lead to Venezuela, or Greece, or North Korea, or whatever blog tells you it is that day.
 
With the US's history of overthrowing governments in South America, including importing Nazi war criminals to places like Peron's Argentina, for later use in coup attempts in places like Chille and Bolivia, I would not be surprised to see our hands all over this Venezuela situation.
 
Do we get to take over their oil now?
 
Jetboogieman said:
Goddammit you post some real trash, using the suffering of an entire people and worse this time a 14 year old girl who's had to become a prostitute to survive, to make the cheapest of cheapest political points.

It is obvious, to anyone with a working brain that Venezuelas government is a cluster**** that has ****ed up their entire country.

But people like you use it to say, that despite the fact that it works in almost the entire industrialized world, that things like UHC as an example, inevitably lead to Venezuela, or Greece, or North Korea, or whatever blog tells you it is that day.
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Ignorance is a powerful weapon. How many Americans really know what the hell is going on in other countries or why their socialist governments collapse? After all, we are talking about a people who can barely remember why we fought the Civil ****ing War.
 
calamity said:
Ignorance is a powerful weapon. How many Americans really know what the hell is going on in other countries or why their socialist governments collapse? After all, we are talking about a people who can barely remember why we fought the Civil ****ing War.
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That was because Iron Man didn't like Captain America's haircut, right?
 
Jesse Booth said:
That was because Iron Man didn't like Captain America's haircut, right?
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I think it's because they chose to listen to Merle Haggard instead of Iron Butterfly.
 
calamity said:
With the US's history of overthrowing governments in South America, including importing Nazi war criminals to places like Peron's Argentina, for later use in coup attempts in places like Chille and Bolivia, I would not be surprised to see our hands all over this Venezuela situation.
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Conspiracy Theory forum's thataway ↓
 
Jetboogieman said:
Goddammit you post some real trash, using the suffering of an entire people and worse this time a 14 year old girl who's had to become a prostitute to survive, to make the cheapest of cheapest political points.

It is obvious, to anyone with a working brain that Venezuelas government is a cluster**** that has ****ed up their entire country.

But people like you use it to say, that despite the fact that it works in almost the entire industrialized world, that things like UHC as an example, inevitably lead to Venezuela, or Greece, or North Korea, or whatever blog tells you it is that day.
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Yeah we get it, you don't care how bad things are, as long as the politics are "the way you support" you'll back them and the government.

Good job dude.
 
Renae said:
Yeah we get it, you don't care how bad things are, as long as the politics are "the way you support" you'll back them and the government.

Good job dude.
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What in sams **** are you on about?
 
Renae said:
You defending socialism as is usual despite
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Despite what?

Venezuela is usually brought up to say "Yah see libs, yah see what happens when you want to adopt something that all of the industrialized world except us adopted successfully, YOU WANT TO BECOME JUST LIKE VENEZUELA!".

It's an intellectually repugnant argument that comes up every few weeks at least.
 
Renae said:
You defending socialism as is usual despite evidence to the contrary.
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He is not defending socialism. He's pointing out the absurdity of a comment in the OP.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Despite what?

Venezuela is usually brought up to say "Yah see libs, yah see what happens when you want to adopt something that all of the industrialized world except us adopted successfully, YOU WANT TO BECOME JUST LIKE VENEZUELA!".

It's an intellectually repugnant argument that comes up every few weeks at least.
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Yeah like you don't say "so you want to live in Somalia" when conservatives talk about smaller govt? hypocrite tears you have
 
Renae said:
Yeah like you don't say "so you want to live in Somalia" when conservatives talk about smaller govt? hypocrite tears you have
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Yeah except the equivalency isn't even there.

Somalia can't operate with small government because the average IQ there is 68 and for things like Democracy to even remotely begin to work IQ must be around 90-95 for a countries average.

Venezuela is collapsing because while the oil business was-a-boomin', they implemented several socialistic policies which were "fine" for the time... given that they had plenty of cash to support them. After oil stopped being as viable a source of income for the country, it began to implode. This is what happens when you don't build infrastructure to stabilize your country and then you destabilize it even further with socialism.
 
The problem isn't just socialism but is also authoritarian. Authoritarianism is a trait of the right. It would be just as disingenuous and stupid to call Venezuela a product of right-wing authoritarianism.

Can we all agree that authoritarianism and socialism combined are the worst of left and right and should be avoided? I think so.
 
Yep. Socialism is great ain't it?
 
The government setting prices.

Nationalizing industry.

Kicking out foreign companies that complain about 50% tax rates.

Chavez & Maduro bad mouthing foreign governments and leaders.

Maduro implicated in drug cartels.

Government cronies bilking 22.5 billion dollars and transferring to foreign accounts.

Maduro partisans murdering citizens.


What could possibly go wrong?

Definitely not on my bucket list for travel!
 
LowDown said:
From The Guardian (UK)



The Guardian tells about a 14 year old girl who braves the violence of the streets at night to ply her trade as a prostitute, a job she was forced into after her mother was fired and the family ran out of food.

But as long as the Maduro government remains determined it doesn't matter how miserable everyone is. The regime can still hold onto power, and a great many American leftists have enabled them. I can hear them now. They will say that there are plenty of under aged prostitutes in the streets of American cities, and this story means nothing. Not the suffering of the people, not the overwhelming evidence of malgovernance, nothing will make them acknowledge that Venezuela took the wrong path.
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Where are all these liberals and "leftists" defending the Venezuelan model?
 
Renae said:
Yeah we get it, you don't care how bad things are, as long as the politics are "the way you support" you'll back them and the government.

Good job dude.
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Not really sure where you got that from JBM's post.
 
RetiredUSN said:
What could possibly go wrong?

Definitely not on my bucket list for travel!
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We're moving in that direction if we don't put a stop to it.

In a socialist country it is always the elites who grow richer and richer while the schmucks slave away for the gov't while getting taxed out the wahzoo. No thanks. If the left wants socialism so much there are plenty of places around the world they could immigrate to. Leave my country alone.
 
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