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Secret Service pays $60K to rent carts to protect Trump

Fletch said:
Such an angry little leftist. Shouldn't you be out in the streets fighting with cops like your masked brethren? Anyway, I didn't really respond to her numbers. I didn't even comment on them I simply asked her about the $100 million. So why don't you just calm down and stop acting like a child.
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LOL! You got caught saying something stupid and patently dishonest, and that's all you've got?
 
Fletch said:
Such an angry little leftist. Shouldn't you be out in the streets fighting with cops like your masked brethren? Anyway, I didn't really respond to her numbers. I didn't even comment on them I simply asked her about the $100 million. So why don't you just calm down and stop acting like a child.
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Well the taxpayers are on the hook for it anyway. Let's just not pretend like you did that going on more vacations with more expenses than the last 3 presidents combined is the same as the occasional presidential vacation.
 
Oborosen said:
Thanks for pointing out the exact same thing that ****s up your own post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/05/09/trump-traveled-half-as-much-in-his-first-four-months-as-did-obama/?utm_term=.ecc0f0a40da6&wpisrc=nl_draw2&wpmm=1

Though I will be honest, Obama was good at having his associates use of his travel benefits hidden away. Though people still caught wind of it.
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And you have no problem with what Trump is doing, which is way worse.. he is getting rich on his own travel?
 
Vern said:
O, your angry and obedient flailing doesn’t address the issue. Your conservative masters made “cost of vacations” and “playing golf” an issue for President Obama to deflect from the fact that Bush shattered the record for vacations and (this is key) refused to cut short one to come back to DC and deal with the clear and repeated warnings of 9-11. Democrats never questioned the costs of Bush’s vacations or what he did. So for you and yours to try to dismiss the issue with “wah wah Obama did it too” or the dishonest “ personal taxi service” is just more flaming hypocrisy from the right.

This is just another conservative narrative that blew up in your faces like Obamacare, Afghanistan, Debt, Deficits, acting Presidential, attacking our allies, embolding our enemies to name just a few. Until you stop listening, your conservative masters wont stop lying to you.
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Wow nice going off the rail with the "conservative master" bit.
Though no one had mentioned bush in a comparison yet, and honestly I really didn't want to seeing as I starting serving under that jackass. Unfortunately meeting him when he flew out to greet us not long before the war was "supposedly" pulling to a close. The man is a preschooler stuck in an elderly mans body, who along with his brother act as though they gradated just the day before.

Nice try at deflecting though, or trying to derail the debate as well.. it failed entirely. At least you didn't come out of the corner screaming racist, bigot, misogynist like all the other little children.

But like I said, nice try.
 
PeteEU said:
And you have no problem with what Trump is doing, which is way worse.. he is getting rich on his own travel?
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Alright then, tell me how you think it works.

Try me, I'll hear what you have to say, and then we can have a nice back & forth about it.
 
Oborosen said:
Alright then, tell me how you think it works.

Try me, I'll hear what you have to say, and then we can have a nice back & forth about it.
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Think? I know, it is a matter of public record. The SS has to rent it self into Trump properties in order to protect him there. They have to rent golf carts to protect him on the linx... all that goes right into Trumps pockets, as he almost exclusively goes to his own holdings.
 
PeteEU said:
Think? I know, it is a matter of public record. The SS has to rent it self into Trump properties in order to protect him there. They have to rent golf carts to protect him on the linx... all that goes right into Trumps pockets, as he almost exclusively goes to his own holdings.
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So that is all you have to say on that huh? Citations are fine, though I have seen plenty of them to know what the SS is projecting is not all that the outlets are touching up on. But in order to keep their narrative I have to admit they are attempting to stay in line of their own dialogue.

Though the services Director "Tex" had worries about such a thing even before the president took office. Lets hit this on the head one nail at a time.

First of all it is the secret services job to protect the president, the first family, and any extended family that they deem necessary. As a point it is not their job to bitch about their directive or the process of how much it cost. The president his a rather large family, and the service new this going into the year without allocating the necessary funds or the oversight for the issue. So IMO this is just another stupid take on trying to prove something against Trump, but we can leave that to another thread. The first family changes every year, with varying issues between the secret service and their charges. Bill Clinton was prone to ditching his SS detail, and go partying off with his highlife friends. This even goes as far back as when Kennedy would basically run from his own detail, because he didn't really want them around. Or he would try to have them back off for most of the time.

On the point of travel expenses that is nearly the same issue, seeing as the Trump administration has to submit paperwork on where they want to go, and when they plan to take the trip. So one cannot say he is just running off to the Bahamas unplanned, and without his detail. The money is to be issued out ahead of time, given projections of how much the trip will cost, and how much the trip might overspend.
Not to mention that the cost for flights on Air-force#1 are paid 50/50 by the presidents own administration, and then by the federal government. This has been the same for some time now, and in no way are tax payers footing the whole bill for the flight.

This is still all of the Secret services job, nothing has changed, and nothing will. The only reason people are bitching about it now, is because Trump has such an extensive family, and their taste in trips is vastly different from most of the last few presidents we have ever had. Not to mention its Trump, so we have a legion of butt hurt people just angry at him for off reasons. Like if their toast popped up too dark on one side that morning, and they still find a reason to blame it on him for it.

The issue being if the Secret service uses the services of any Trump resort, or building.
No problem there either, seeing as its not his business while he is in the presidency, and he hass filed the necessary paperwork to make it legal for this to happen. His son for the time being is now in complete management of the Trump hotel legacy.

Therefore none of the money is going into his pockets but that of his family, which goes into its workforce. Though I can see how people are getting angry at this, I mean its not like we have had a president in the past who had a multi-million dollar company attached to their name, that in of itself can boast over 3 billion is assets. The closest one could come to such star power was Ronald Reagan, who was an actor prior to becoming a politician. Though in sheer net worth he is totally obliterated by Hoover who is last on the top 10 list of US presidents.

A list that is dominated by the top three of.
#1. Donald J. Trump
#2. John F. Kennedy
#3. George Washington

Given all of these factors it is sheer lunacy that someone could even hint at a Trump presidency, and not think that there would be some price increases in such expenses. All in all this is just people barking at something that most likely would have happened, and acting like its a damn surprise.
 
Fletch said:
I'm the same fletch. I never cared about Obamas vacations or what they cost. Sorry if that disappoints you.
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again fletch, your personal claims to the contrary doesn't address the fact that conservatives obediently whining about costs under President Obama was a dishonest narrative. But to ignore Trump's costs is just another example of conservative hypocrisy. Sure there are countless examples and sure this is a relatively minor issue but its just dishonest for you to pretend it wasn't an official conservative narrative. Since you want to deflect from the flaming hypocrisy of conservatives, is it okay to call Trump a hypocrite yet?

Fletch said:
Trump isn't president yet, so its a bit too early to call him a hypocrite. We will have to wait to see how much golfing he does.
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and fletch, you've obediently commented on President Obama's vacations

Fletch said:
Whats Obamas tee time today?
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