I Support Nazis and the white nationalists

ReverendHellh0und said:

The country is 86% white, has strict immigration policies. sounds like paradise to them.

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Canada accepts 200 000 legal immigrants or so a year. In the US that would be like 2 million. For 2015 the source of most of the immigrants to Canada were

The Philippenes
India
Pakistan (might be wrong on this one
China

The country is heavily white, but the white population is skewed towards being quite a bit older than the general population. At least in Calgary that means the communities built between the 1950's-1970's.

So if they want to live in rural communities with predominately white people who are 50+, then yes it will be heaven to them. Other than going around chanting white power, kill all the jews might get them arrested. Also they would not be allowed to carry guns like they do in the US, and given their association with such groups, probably not get a license to posses firearms at all

Lord Tammerlain said:

Canada accepts 200 000 legal immigrants or so a year. In the US that would be like 2 million. For 2015 the source of most of the immigrants to Canada were

The Philippenes
India
Pakistan (might be wrong on this one
China

The country is heavily white, but the white population is skewed towards being quite a bit older than the general population. At least in Calgary that means the communities built between the 1950's-1970's.

So if they want to live in rural communities with predominately white people who are 50+, then yes it will be heaven to them. Other than going around chanting white power, kill all the jews might get them arrested. Also they would not be allowed to carry guns like they do in the US, and given their association with such groups, probably not get a license to posses firearms at all

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it's 86% white, bro. you can't "white wash" that fact.

bluesmoke said:

Then are you saying that you do not fall within the definition, as given, of White Nationalism? Keep in mind, to a white nationalist, the definition is not "...something subversive, ugly, and bad." You're the one saying that. If you don't fit the definition, tell us what you think White Nationalism is.

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Already asked and answered. I know full well what you guys mean when you say 'white nationalism'. I am not and have not been arguing the pros and cons of white nationalism. But nobody here seems to understand that and/or be able to grasp the concept I have been arguing. And the argument has now become so repetitious and circular that it is boring and there seems no point in continuing. Will wish all a good day.

AlbqOwl said:

There is a huge difference between national socialist and white nationalist in just the definitions of the words making up the combinations.

I know I am fighting a losing battle here, but it is the principle of the thing for me.

A white person is just a person and I am 100% in favor of good white people not being expected to hang their heads in shame or feel some kind of residual or corporate guilt because some white persons did something wrong or bad somewhere or at some time.

A nationalist is a person with pride and respect for his/her country, flag, and what those stand for. I don't want the word associated with fascism or Nazis or white supremacy or any other color supremacy because it has nothing to do with that.

I want to be able to say that I am a white person and a nationalist who is not a Nazi, not racist, not approving of any kind of racial supremacy, not authoritarian, etc. I don't want people who are jerks appropriating two perfectly acceptable words and making them into something bad. And I don't want PC police turning those words into something ugly and unacceptable.

I fully understand that you and others do not get this, do not understand this, and won't accept this. So sue me.

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I don't think you are fighting a losing battle. I could agree with you about 75 percent or so.

You can be opposed to Nazis, authoritarians and even supremacists and still be accepted by a large segment of your peers. That word "racist" bothers me. That is the one you and I might have to discuss.

It is okay and acceptable for everyone else to have someone in their corner and all other races need not feel compelled to justify promoting their race / culture / history / destiny. Where is the evil in it? I don't want to hold anyone down. What's the point in lording over others? And - if you don't believe in ... let us say inter-racial marriage, you should be able to follow the dictates of your conscience without having to feel ashamed.

The real problem comes when you expect others to believe like you. That's the only legitimate beef those who want a one race / one religion / ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT should have. But, you're going to draw flak from those who are so insecure in their positions that they have to put you down in order to feel good about supporting a position they know, for a fact, will not stand up to close scrutiny. Your post is not in vain.

AlbqOwl said:

Already asked and answered. I know full well what you guys mean when you say 'white nationalism'. I am not and have not been arguing the pros and cons of white nationalism. But nobody here seems to understand that and/or be able to grasp the concept I have been arguing. And the argument has now become so repetitious and circular that it is boring and there seems no point in continuing. Will wish all a good day.

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If all you just said is so, then you've not made your case and refuse to do so by not answering my question to you that gives you the opportunity to make your case.

Jesse Booth said:

Regardless of the overlap between the alt-right and... well, everything in the general vicinity of an already ill-defined group, white nationalists have a clearly defined core set of beliefs that are incompatible with libertarianism.

However you define libertarianism, it just does not mesh with white nationalism. Deporting Americans who aren't white to other nations would be a tyrannical and coercive use of overwhelming government power, keeping minorities as a lower class would infringe on their rights... the two ideologies just don't fit with each other, however it might be that a white nationalist thinks their all-white utopia will be established.

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At least, by your definition, I am not a white nationalist. I am NOT in favor of deporting anyone. Then again, I wouldn't make citizens out of a million people a year when we cannot afford to take care of the elderly and poor as it is. I'd say if you can be self sufficient, you are welcome to come, but that in no way, shape, fashion or form guarantees you the right to become a citizen.

The Resister said:

At least, by your definition, I am not a white nationalist. I am NOT in favor of deporting anyone. Then again, I wouldn't make citizens out of a million people a year when we cannot afford to take care of the elderly and poor as it is. I'd say if you can be self sufficient, you are welcome to come, but that in no way, shape, fashion or form guarantees you the right to become a citizen.

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So you are not a white nationalist? you are stating right now, that you are not a white nationalist?

The Resister said:

At least, by your definition, I am not a white nationalist. I am NOT in favor of deporting anyone. Then again, I wouldn't make citizens out of a million people a year when we cannot afford to take care of the elderly and poor as it is. I'd say if you can be self sufficient, you are welcome to come, but that in no way, shape, fashion or form guarantees you the right to become a citizen.

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My definition is the definition white nationalists use. I just openly acknowledge that there isn't really any territory available for their white utopia that doesn't have minorities living in it, so they would by necessity be kicking someone off of their own private property.

https://www.whitenationalism.com/wn/wn-06.htm

ReverendHellh0und said:

So you are not a white nationalist? you are stating right now, that you are not a white nationalist?

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I did not know who they were until a couple of weeks ago and now I find out, according to Jesse Booth, that the name don't apply, so what do you want me to say.

All I can tell you is to check my posts. Go to the first time I posted here. If you see someone clearly against building a nutty wall, deporting people (along with their American children) and telling you that nobody has a monopoly on human virtue, then you can call it what you like.

Jesse Booth said:

My definition is the definition white nationalists use. I just openly acknowledge that there isn't really any territory available for their white utopia that doesn't have minorities living in it, so they would by necessity be kicking someone off of their own private property.

https://www.whitenationalism.com/wn/wn-06.htm

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I think they would be free to go somewhere and buy homes and land, congregating in one area (like any other group) and maybe some day be their own community. But, they aren't kicking anybody out. Lately, they're the ones who have been getting kicked out. And, given their current strategies, things are only getting worse for them.

The Resister said:

I think they would be free to go somewhere and buy homes and land, congregating in one area (like any other group) and maybe some day be their own community. But, they aren't kicking anybody out. Lately, they're the ones who have been getting kicked out. And, given their current strategies, things are only getting worse for them.

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How do you establish a white nation without kicking out nonwhites, Resister?

Jesse Booth said:

How do you establish a white nation without kicking out nonwhites, Resister?

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You can't establish a white nation within the U.S. All you can do is find your piece of America and congregate there until you have to leave the comfort of your neighborhood and live in the real world.

The Resister said:

I did not know who they were until a couple of weeks ago and now I find out, according to Jesse Booth, that the name don't apply, so what do you want me to say.

All I can tell you is to check my posts. Go to the first time I posted here. If you see someone clearly against building a nutty wall, deporting people (along with their American children) and telling you that nobody has a monopoly on human virtue, then you can call it what you like.

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Just say what you are. why are you so timid?

ReverendHellh0und said:

Just say what you are. why are you so timid?

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You got to be joking. When I find the right niche, I'll be proud of what I am. What about you? Antifa maybe?

I am angry that most Americans scrapped what they were. For example, most people knew what America was about through the presidency of Ronald Reagan. A hint is to read the Mayflower Compact and all the laws echoing the same sentiment through Ronald Reagan's farewell address and other speeches with a certain theme. Let me give you a hint by referencing the part most people have forgotten:

"I have quoted John Winthrop's words more than once on the campaign trail this year—for I believe that Americans in 1980 are every bit as committed to that vision of a shining "city on a hill," as were those long ago settlers..." Ronald Reagan on the eve of his election

I get what you want, but what you imply is a lie. America is stuck on stupid and disreputable people have entered the discussion, attempting to obfuscate the real issues. From the earliest of times, the colonists and their descendants (at least a part of them) were committed to an ideal. We knew the importance of America and that it provided us a unique destiny. Those who get duped by the nazis or any other political group to follow a path to destruction are no worse than the purveyors of those who want to sell America a NEW WORLD ORDER / ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.

Unlike my accusers, I'm not dodging or ducking anything. It's just that over the last twenty years what they call organizations and beliefs has changed. Some loyalties have changed. Worse, the spirit of our forefathers and the ideals and beliefs that made America great have been abandoned and forgotten. There was a time when the KKK and nazis tried to work together, but had an uneasy alliance. Today, I see young kids with a KKK patch and a nazi patch on the same uniform. WTH??? There is that part in the Bible where a man cannot serve two masters (Matthew 6: 24) It appears that those groups have decided that National Socialism is the way to go. It is not.

Then came along the white nationalists. But, AlbqOwl tells me that white nationalists want an authoritarian type of government. They are attracted to the dictator mindset of Donald Trump and that's not for me. No matter how you try to spin it, there are a lot of white Americans who know, for a fact, what our forefathers intended America to be and what role the white people played in it. Our system of government is built upon the foundations of Anglo Saxon law:

Anglo-Saxon Law: Its Development and Impact on the English Legal System (1991) | Charles Tucker - Academia.edu

The people that gave us the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution were all white people. And, America was built upon biblical principles found in the Bible... as the racial critics have dubbed it, "the white man's religion." America has fought the world's wars and after the enemies were defeated, we have rebuilt nations. We have sent more missionaries into the world than all other countries combined. And, when people seek Liberty, that shining city on a hill is the first place they think about. BTW, that shining city on a hill reference refers to the New Jerusalem of the Bible. You really should Google Ronald Reagan and city on a hill to figure out what he was talking talking about.

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The enemies of America would like to attempt to rebuild the Tower of Babel in America. They want a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT / NEW WORLD ORDER with a militarized police force, one religion, one race and everybody totally dependent upon the government from the womb to the tomb. The enemies of America have no use for self sufficiency, self reliance, independence nor the concept of unalienable Rights. Today, whether left or right; conservative or liberal; Democrat or Republican, virtually all people are working to advance some aspect of the NEW WORLD ORDER either under the guise of "Making America Great Again" or saving the world from racists and white supremacists (sic.) Neither side wants there to be neutral ground.

But, if America intends to be free, prosperous, and the leader of the free world, the left will have to acknowledge the accomplishments and the role of white people in America. The left, along with the mainstream media, has declared that there are but two sides: the Neo-Nazis and Antifa. IF that were true, we'd be screwed. The fact that the narrative is NOT TRUE makes a lot of extremists (especially my critics) absolutely livid.

So, let me spell it out for you:

"White" people have a role in America. They have both a history and a destiny. That destiny does not include building walls around your nation nor accepting authoritarian forms of government. It does not mean being held hostage in the nation your forefathers fought, bled and died in order to establish. It does not include having to deny your fellow man their unalienable Rights, but at the same time, it does not mean that you have to allow the government to outlaw your political and religious convictions. It does not mean that you have to be lorded over by people who hate, loathe, and despise every facet of what it took to build this country.

I am 100 percent opposed to the building of a wall around the southern border of the United States. I'm not in favor of deporting millions of foreigners because they committed a minor civil infraction of the law in order to get here. At the same time, I am NOT in favor of making everybody that comes here a citizen with a voice in the body politic. IF the people put me in charge for a day, I'd let all those who could get a job and wanted to come here do so. Then, I would incentivize employers to hire an All American workforce. There would be substantial tax breaks to take people off unemployment and welfare; to provide jobs for the handicapped and to take the homeless off the streets. There would be additional tax incentives to bring jobs to America and to pay that all American workforce with higher wages.

People could hire whomever they wanted; rent to and sell to whomever they wanted; buy from and live wherever you find people willing to do business with you. If you didn't want to sell to a known racist, don't sell to him. If the racist don't want to hire you - go find a job elsewhere. The baker that didn't want to make a cake for a gay couple wouldn't have to. There is always San Francisco.

That's my America and the critics can tell you I'm being timid, coy, etc. Don't believe it. I've put my life on the line for foreigners that can do nothing for me and I am willing to do whatever it takes to make sure the government does not outlaw the religious beliefs of whites that have come under fire from the left. I don't have a dog in the fight with the Confederate monuments, but I would gladly support any effort to stop the left from chipping away at our history. Only a fool would deny that the left, working most through black civil rights organizations and Antifa is doing what they can to destroy the last vestiges of our constitutional Republic.

At the same time, National Socialists and the groups following them around like a dog in heat do not have the right solutions. This isn't even their war. Right now, NOBODY is articulating the right message. That's the way it is. It may whiz off the left and all my critics because they know that IF people figure this out, the gig is up. The silenced message I brought you today would end the contention on both sides.