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    Re: The Horrible Truth about Barack Obama's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedestrian View Post
    You would be correct about Nixon, probably the most 'liberal' repub to be pres. Reagan was the first all-hat-no-cattle conservative.
    Grade B movie actor who was prior, a life long democrat, voted for FDR 4 times and was a union leader president of SCAG the Screen Actors Guild.

    He became a repub due to the high income tax rates, gov. of Calif, and won by denigrating Jimmy Carter, the poor, the welfare queen and limousine liberal.
    As usual, that denigration paid off and the true Keynesian deficit spending, war mongering, rent-seeking, profiteering, slanderous right in America
    ...spread their wings took to the sky...sky high debt and tripling of payroll taxes, just for starters.

    What offends the left and it should, Jimmy Carter was twice the man Reagan was. Grew up a peanut farmer on his dad's farm. He knew
    he'd inherit that farm yet wanted to do more, be more. So college and then the navy. The navy ?

    Not to be a deck ape, no !! Became a nuke sub commander, served under Adm. Rickover and made Rickover's dream come true of making
    sure the US brings all of its technology to the military.

    One could argue with meaning, thus with that technology being brought to bear and getting an agreement with Europe to put Pershing IIs missiles
    (INDF, Intermediate Nuke Defense Force) on the continent is what really...ended the cold war.

    Not Reagan's bellicose BS or SDI (star wars) Strategic Defense Initiative that petered out as merely a gift to the investor class,
    a multi-billion $ boondoggle and profit-center.
    Being an actor or former Democrat doesn't make you a bad president and neither does being a peanut farmer or nuke sub commander make you a good one. Reagan could never have governed as an unalloyed traditional conservative. Nobody can so that isn't a legitimate criticism. If people had wanted a true blue conservative through and through, they'd have elected Goldwater.

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    Re: The Horrible Truth about Barack Obama's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    Iran deal...pallets of cash.
    Misusing the IRS against political opponents. (Yea, I know it didn't happen, except it did)
    Surveillance of reporter James Rosen. (another abuse of power)
    F&F. Border agent killed. Holder lied to Congress
    Lying repeatedly about Obamacare with the famous "If you like your plan..." comment. Gruber told us what the strategy was.
    Stirring up racial antipathy in Ferguson by taking up for criminal Michael Brown like he was some national hero. That indirectly fueled the growth of BLM with its associated problems.
    Trading 5 top terrorists for deserter Bergdahl and not telling Congress until it was too late to be stopped.
    Russian "reset"
    Saying he had no power to write the Dreamer law into existence ("I'm not a king.") and then doing it anyway.
    Letting ISIS fester for 3 years while it grew, took territory and murdered people across the ME. ("They're the JV.")
    Failure to arm the Kurds for years and then only indirectly. (Other presidents failed here, too)
    Drawing a red line in Ukraine, doing nothing and letting Putin look statesman-like.
    Helping to destabilize Libya which led directly to Benghazi. (As Hill chirped, "We came, we saw, he died."....chuckle, chuckle)
    Treated Israel like an adversary.
    $500 million to Solyndra
    Did nothing about the Black Panther Philadelphia voter intimidation.
    Describing Ft. Hood as "workplace violence".
    Failing to address sanctuary cities
    Commutes sentence of traitor Chelsea Manning
    Changing the rules on unmasking Americans as he left office in order to help the investigation of Trump
    Iran deal...pallets of cash. The money was theirs and the deal is better than none.
    Misusing the IRS against political opponents. (Yea, I know it didn't happen, except it did) Maybe what you want to believe, not true per your repub. house.
    Surveillance of reporter James Rosen. (another abuse of power) Prove it.
    F&F. Border agent killed. Holder lied to Congress. Several have been ober many years, a young girl killed last week, the lies and cover-up began instantly ?
    Lying repeatedly about Obamacare with the famous "If you like your plan..." comment. Gruber told us what the strategy was. Cool, now we can blame for all of the corp. corruption. The industry and not Obama...took your Dr. away.
    Stirring up racial antipathy in Ferguson by taking up for criminal Michael Brown like he was some national hero. That indirectly fueled the growth of BLM with its associated problems. Not even a nice try. Stirred up is one I haven't heard and calling racists racists does tend to stir up...the racists.
    Trading 5 top terrorists for deserter Bergdahl and not telling Congress until it was too late to be stopped. Yea, better he sold missiles to Iran and use the million$ to fund an illegal war ?
    Russian "reset" What about it ?
    Saying he had no power to write the Dreamer law into existence ("I'm not a king.") and then doing it anyway. By executive order, one of the repubs favorite powers.
    Letting ISIS fester for 3 years while it grew, took territory and murdered people across the ME. ("They're the JV.") Revisionist hist., he flew 100,000s of sortees and got ISIS down to nothing so the manchild taking office just in time...could gloat like a child.
    Failure to arm the Kurds for years and then only indirectly. (Other presidents failed here, too) Since when did any American pol let alone the repubs ever give a flying F*** about the Kurds a tribe that both Bushes left to go away or die.
    Drawing a red line in Ukraine, doing nothing and letting Putin look statesman-like. What red line for Ukraine ?

    Libya which led directly to Benghazi. Reagan had 241 marines by his ego-driven gun-boat diplomacy. Bush II allowed the pentagon to be attacked. Libya betrayed by the Reagan admin. from the start, was on the CIA hit list for years before Obama and HRC. No committee hearings for the 10+ Benghazi-like attacks on our foreign service all over the world ?
    Treated Israel like an adversary. Hardly and who cares ?

    $500 million to Solyndra So what ? Ridiculous !! 1 loan guarantee for 1 co, out of billion$ in subsidies to the solar industry.
    Did nothing about the Black Panther Philadelphia voter intimidation. Oh please. you are trying my patience.
    Describing Ft. Hood as "workplace violence". From wrong colored suit to his terminology ?
    Failing to address sanctuary cities. What has any pres, done for that. what was Obama to do and what is Trump doing ?
    Commutes sentence of traitor Chelsea Manning. Oh please, LOL after all of the repub pardons.
    Changing the rules on unmasking Americans as he left office in order to help the investigation of Trump. Just more ridiculous partisan tripe like your whole post here.
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    Re: The Horrible Truth about Barack Obama's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedestrian View Post
    OMG yes, I want to read just what Dan...had to say. I mean when a man is a liberal, black, socialist/communist Kenyan Muslim,
    inherited a completely broken economy directly caused by the greed and avarice of the right's rent-seeking, risk-your-money wall street America's

    real proud and fabulously wealthy socialists, then I mean there is no way he.....

    didn't rebuild the auto industry, that Bush II started.....
    didn't quadruple the drone war
    didn't go after ISIS did more than Trump ever did, just basking like the preening little boy when he falsely takes credit.
    didn't go after the right's fair-haired boys called...fraudulent bankers.
    didn't restore the value of equities (paper) so the investor class could clean up and at Bush II's lower tax rates too.
    didn't continue both wars he inherited.
    didn't finally get America almost completely out of Iraq.
    didn't create over 10 million jobs with GDP growth between 2 and 3% yearly.
    didn't deal with a completely partisan and intransigent congress that gave him zero support for 8 years.
    ...and with dignity and class.

    Be as cheaply partisan and ignorant as you wish but trust me and in uncertain terms, B. Obama will go down
    as one of the best presidents and if he had an R after his name, would be practically a god.
    You might want to reread my post and take it as the sarcasm it obviously was. Thx.

    Obama was far from perfect, but my post was mocking the kooky hackery presented in the OP.
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    Re: The Horrible Truth about Barack Obama's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedestrian View Post
    Iran deal...pallets of cash. The money was theirs and the deal is better than none.
    Misusing the IRS against political opponents. (Yea, I know it didn't happen, except it did) Maybe what you want to believe, not true per your repub. house.
    Surveillance of reporter James Rosen. (another abuse of power) Prove it.

    You sound more like Mrs. Obama or a member of his PR team.

    A few comments.

    1. Re: Rosen......https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.db02f2144abb

    2. Yes, the insurance industry wrote the Obamacare bill. Why was Obama so beholden to them? I thought only Republicans were in the pockets of big business What happened? Why was lying part of the sales strategy if this thing was so wonderful?

    3. It's not the "racists" Obama criticized but the police. He immediately bought into the narrative being peddled by the media that the officer simply gunned down Brown instead of having done so in self defense. In doing this, he gave voice to all the crazed cop haters and brought them out of the woodwork. Very irresponsible and shameful.

    4. Nice deflection on Bergdahl. Not sure what that has to do with Iran-Contra. That's a separate topic.

    5. Hill and Obama thought they could play nice with the Russians and got played instead. In over their heads.

    6. Lot of revisionist history I see. We were in Beirut as a peacekeeeping force. "Gunboat diplomacy" had nothing to do with it. And as long as you like to stray off topic, what about the WTC I attack, the Khobar Towers attack, the African embassy attacks and the USS Cole attack that all happened to Clinton? He utterly failed to degrade Al qaeda for 8 years and then handed off to Bush who had 911 happen 8 months later. The planning for that took years, years where Clinton did nothing except blow up an aspirin factory. You want some facts, there you go.

    7. Got ISIS down to nothing? Really? And you talk of revisionism? That also fails to address his total foot dragging for years. This is easily documented. I guess those hundreds of thousands of sorties (many of which returned with their ordnance) were carried out by his "60 nation coalition".

    8. In case you missed it, there's one democracy in the ME and that's Israel. Obama didn't give them the time of day and instead went sniffing around the hindquarters of the mullahs and even paid to do so. A complete failure.

    9. Oh, the Philly case wasn't voter intimidation? Two guys with clubs? It damn well would have been had the parties been reversed.

    10. Trump hasn't pardoned a clear cut traitor. Only Obama does that. But you go on talking about Scooter Libby and Dinesh D'Souza if it makes you feel better.

    11. Ft. Hood was terrorism. 5 year olds know that but not Obama. Or rather he refuses to say it.

    12. The change of the law on sharing of unmasked citizens among agencies is also easily documented. Here, so you don't have to strain yourself. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/u...nications.html

    13. Look up the difference between an EO and legislation. Obama legislated and the Constitution nowhere gives him that power. Saying Trump or anyone else did something similar doesn't change what happened.
    Last edited by veritas1; 06-01-18 at 08:05 PM.

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