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The Dark Minds of the Alt-Right

Are you in for an education!

This what Donald Trump said in February of 2016:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBOy8iTBA9g

That was proven false:

Trump's David Duke Amnesia - FactCheck.org

The FACTS show that Trump lied about knowing who David Duke was. He straight up lied. Trump had worked with Duke in the Reform Party, but Trump left on the pretext that he was opposed to Duke.

It don't end there. In 1977 David Duke organized Border Watch, an anti-immigrant effort to man the border, etc. Now, follow with me closely:

* Before David Duke was a KKK leader, he was a member of the Nazi Party. Actually Duke was not a part of the original KKK. He formed his own version and pulled in a lot of his old nazi friends to support his version of the KKK

* In about 2004 Jim Gilchrist and Chris Simcox started the so - called "Minutemen." Jim Gilchrist was a run of the mill racist, nothing special and in 2007 he was fired by the board of Directors of the Minutemen and he went on to try the anti-immigrant thing on his own (more on him later)

* Chris Simcox teamed up with J.T. Ready and formed the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps. In 2006 Simcox petitioned George W. Bush to build a border wall. That became the signature piece of the Minuteman platform and was endorsed by all factions of the Minutemen (and by that time there were several offshoots of the original)

Both Chris Simcox and J.T. Ready were exposed as nazis ... not white supremacists, not racists, not alt right but neo nazis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ6owsJTCYI

https://www.dcourier.com/news/2006/jun/19/minuteman-leader-details-stance-to-county-republi/

Chris Simcox would ultimately go to prison on sex charges while J.T. Ready committed a mass murder and then killed himself:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...is-simcox-sentenced-child-sex-abuse/86948200/

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/0...i-kills-four-himself-in-shooting-rampage.html

So, there you have original plan for the border wall idea being developed by a neo nazi and it is the same, identical plan that Donald Trump ran on in his presidential campaign. And there is still more.

LOL

The conspiracy theory thread is located in another part of DP. You might try posting this previously prepared post of yours there.
 
Maybe once Trump resigns we can begin ignoring these clown again. But, until then, no way. They clearly have a low friend in high places.

I wish I could agree. But can you imagine just how much these people are going to lose their minds the next time we get a Democratic president? And we thought they acted like Kylo Ren under Obama... :shock:
 
So you are suggesting 62,975,000 everyday Americans are racists.

At what point will you be concerned with your credibility?

I'd say a good chunk of them did not yet realize how much of a scumbag the guy was. So, maybe they can be forgiven. But, the ones sticking to the racist in chief...marching with Nazis they would be.
 
I wish I could agree. But can you imagine just how much these people are going to lose their minds the next time we get a Democratic president? And we thought they acted like Kylo Ren under Obama... :shock:

I sooo desperately want to see a Mexican woman win the presidency, preferably a gay one, just to see that reaction you mention.
 
I stand by my statement, and I provided a few examples of leadership on the left making blanket accusations to back it up.

Here are some examples of more of the same:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/05/05/obamacare-repeal-based-racial-resentment/iVNtB9fpr3JNm7IKfYyorK/story.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/democrats-have-maxed-out-the-race-card

They weren't making blanket accusations. 99% of what I read they were talking about that asshole screaming "you lie" during the SOTU address and the birther crap. No where did anyone say "People don't like the stimulus because they are a bunch of racists!" Literally nothing talked about policy which is your argument.

You seem to think that you can post 4 links showing that some liberals have claimed that racism in some way has to deal with something and that somehow proves your statement that "For 8 years many on the left said that any criticism of the policies and objectives of EX President Obama was due to racism." It's not true. If I post a few links showing republicans calling democrats racist will you argue the same thing about Republicans?
 
LOL

The conspiracy theory thread is located in another part of DP. You might try posting this previously prepared post of yours there.

Once something is proven to be a fact, it is no longer a theory. NONE of what I posted was previously prepared; however I did save that posting to a document so that it will be in the future. No sense in me reinventing the wheel every time someone restarts this thread.
 
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I sooo desperately want to see a Mexican woman win the presidency, preferably a gay one, just to see that reaction you mention.

What's stupid is that some Republicans feel that being a woman or of Mexican ancestry, let alone both, would make it easier to get elected as president.
 
As long as there are two different kinds of people on this earth, there will be racism. EVERYBODY thinks they are entitled in some way, shape, fashion, or form.

But, there aren't two different kinds of people on this earth.

There are 2 philosophies: Racist scum white supremacists and normal people
 
But, there aren't two different kinds of people on this earth.

There are 2 philosophies: Racist scum white supremacists and normal people

And normal people would include Muslim supremacists, black supremacists, Jewish supremacists, atheist supremacists, Christian supremacists, Chinese supremacists (no blacks, whites or Jews in their government), Japanese supremacists - 98+ percent of Japan is one ethnicity)???
 
And normal people would include Muslim supremacists, black supremacists, Jewish supremacists, atheist supremacists, Christian supremacists, Chinese supremacists (no blacks, whites or Jews in their government), Japanese supremacists - 98+ percent of Japan is one ethnicity)???

What a stupid post.
 
I'd say a good chunk of them did not yet realize how much of a scumbag the guy was. So, maybe they can be forgiven. But, the ones sticking to the racist in chief...marching with Nazis they would be.

I guess the answer is, apparently at no point.
 
They weren't making blanket accusations. 99% of what I read they were talking about that asshole screaming "you lie" during the SOTU address and the birther crap. No where did anyone say "People don't like the stimulus because they are a bunch of racists!" Literally nothing talked about policy which is your argument.

You seem to think that you can post 4 links showing that some liberals have claimed that racism in some way has to deal with something and that somehow proves your statement that "For 8 years many on the left said that any criticism of the policies and objectives of EX President Obama was due to racism." It's not true. If I post a few links showing republicans calling democrats racist will you argue the same thing about Republicans?

You seem to think you can offer nothing but opinion as a sufficient argument against the posts I have provided.

Why do you think opinion outweighs the evidence I have provided.

How many different links would be sufficient to prove the point?

You are welcome to provide any links you want. It would certainly add some weight to the effort you are making.
 
Once something is proven to be a fact, it is no longer a theory. NONE of what I posted was previously prepared; however I did save that posting to a document so that it will be in the future. No sense in me reinventing the wheel every time someone restarts this thread.

No, you had it prepared beforehand. Not my first rodeo.

And it most certainly belongs in the CP thread. You should see if it gains any traction there.

Class dismissed.

:peace
 
No, you had it prepared beforehand. Not my first rodeo.

And it most certainly belongs in the CP thread. You should see if it gains any traction there.

Class dismissed.

:peace

No, sorry, I have said some of the same things repeatedly, but from here on out, it will be cut and paste. That one was where I had to Google to stuff for the umpteenth time. Sorry, but you're wrong.
 
No, I was just countering you nazi apologist posts here. You picked the wrong side.

Don't go there. I'm nobody's nazi apologist and you should have more respect for yourself than to hurl such an accusation. I realize that people can hide behind anonymous board names and bandy about accusations, but I would hope that you had a better upbringing than to make such an allegation.

I just spent the last 15 years arguing with the right about turning this country into the ultimate POLICE STATE with neo nazi solutions and now.... now - when the politicians are making an us v. them argument wherein they expect people to choose between antifa and neo-nazi, you want to play that kind of game?

You need to understand something. When it comes to politics, I'm not on either side right now. Everybody wants to turn America into a gang like atmosphere and both sides accuse those on the outside of being on the wrong side.

My personal view and I would never judge anyone else by my standard - I only worry about being on God's side. Mortal man does not scare me by telling me if I don't adopt this or that "side" that I will be judged (and maybe that is a way of covertly transmitting a threat.) The only person I worry about judging me is in the hereafter. I have heard what antifa had to say and what the government had to say then what the nazis had to say. If anyone is in doubt as to what the government meant, they need to pay close attention.
 
Don't go there. I'm nobody's nazi apologist and you should have more respect for yourself than to hurl such an accusation. I realize that people can hide behind anonymous board names and bandy about accusations, but I would hope that you had a better upbringing than to make such an allegation.

I just spent the last 15 years arguing with the right about turning this country into the ultimate POLICE STATE with neo nazi solutions and now.... now - when the politicians are making an us v. them argument wherein they expect people to choose between antifa and neo-nazi, you want to play that kind of game?

You need to understand something. When it comes to politics, I'm not on either side right now. Everybody wants to turn America into a gang like atmosphere and both sides accuse those on the outside of being on the wrong side.

My personal view and I would never judge anyone else by my standard - I only worry about being on God's side. Mortal man does not scare me by telling me if I don't adopt this or that "side" that I will be judged (and maybe that is a way of covertly transmitting a threat.) The only person I worry about judging me is in the hereafter. I have heard what antifa had to say and what the government had to say then what the nazis had to say. If anyone is in doubt as to what the government meant, they need to pay close attention.

Oh my you are defensive....but in your short stay here, its pretty apparent where you stand, and trying to use god as a shield? Hilarious.
 
IMO, straight white men believing they are the oppressed victims of people they consider less evolved than them requires a rather strange psychological make-up. After all, if someone honestly feels more evolved than another, should they not be able to out perform these neanderthals, run circles around them, as it were? lol..it's almost like they know they are stupid. "Yeah those animals are less human than me, but they have me in a corner. I am so oppressed."

WTF?

Ah, the convoluted contradictions of racial collectivist crackpots...
 
Oh my you are defensive....but in your short stay here, its pretty apparent where you stand, and trying to use god as a shield? Hilarious.

Use God as a shield? Was I wrong about your upbringing? IF anybody is thinking about buying your portrayal of me, they should read some of the posts from the FIRST thread I participated on here... and get a good sampling:

https://www.debatepolitics.com/immi...-arrested-two-homicides-virginia-w-258-a.html

Check out posts # 117, 123, 124, 182, 186, 191, 193, 198, 208 and 215. That should end any speculation as to the fact that I am not on either side. Read that and ask yourselves if that sounds like a nazi is saying that.
 
What's stupid is that some Republicans feel that being a woman or of Mexican ancestry, let alone both, would make it easier to get elected as president.

Coming from the party that is still throwing a giant tantrum because the first woman to be president lost after the first black man to be president to what is quite apparently a rich old white racist. That's ironic.


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Use God as a shield? Was I wrong about your upbringing? IF anybody is thinking about buying your portrayal of me, they should read some of the posts from the FIRST thread I participated on here... and get a good sampling:

https://www.debatepolitics.com/immi...-arrested-two-homicides-virginia-w-258-a.html

Check out posts # 117, 123, 124, 182, 186, 191, 193, 198, 208 and 215. That should end any speculation as to the fact that I am not on either side. Read that and ask yourselves if that sounds like a nazi is saying that.

Are you making a personal attack about my upbringing?

Don't.

Just

Don't
 
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