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Majority of Americans Support Confederate Statues Remaining in Place

Why do you think the media appears to be in the minority of extremists who want to demolish history? Do they have a radical agenda?

It is a long term policy of covering up the truth. These statues are almost all confederate democrats. These people have a long standing association with policies of oppressors, kkk, "final solutions" via planned parenthood, lynchings, mass death, racism, and general robbery of the common people.

In order for the democrats to lead us again we need to forget all that. Hence the book burnings, the statue defacings, the memory removal of street signs and names. And of course the feeble attempts to pin the donkey tail on the elephant.

It is a good strategy as long as people ar kept from education and public libraries where the history is all well documented.

Look at the presentation on this.

31e. Canefight! Preston Brooks and Charles Sumner

"Senator Charles Sumner of Massachusetts was an avowed Abolitionist and leader of the Republican Party. After the sack of Lawrence, on May 21, 1856, he gave a bitter speech in the Senate called "The Crime Against Kansas." He blasted the "murderous robbers from Missouri," calling them "hirelings, picked from the drunken spew and vomit of an uneasy civilization." Part of this oratory was a bitter, personal tirade against South Carolina's Senator Andrew Butler. Sumner declared Butler an imbecile and said, "Senator Butler has chosen a mistress. I mean the harlot, slavery.""

There was no fight. It was a beating pure and simple of R-Sumner by D-Brooks from behind while two more Ds held the rest of congress at bay with weapons.

The presentation of the north vs the south is a bit false as well as many northerners supported slavery at that time.

We really need to learn about the realities of our histories. Defacing and destroying historical sites is an homage to ignorance.
 
So you can read my mind now? Good to know. :mrgreen:



My government? Are you not American, by chance?

Yes I am, and I defended it!

As for the formerly mentioned Joe Wheeler:

'Fightin' Joe Wheeler is memorialized with a statue in Capital Hall & of course deserves one.
A top confederate general he became longtime congressman from Alabama in the postwar years,
before he donned the US army blue once again as a major general in the war with Spain.

The fact the government gave Wheeler a position of pretty high
command suggests the bad blood had dissipated. Wikipedia also lists Fitzhugh Lee &
Matthew Butler as former Confederate major-generals who commanded troops in the Spanish-American war.
After the war, 15 Confederate Officers served as U.S. ambassadors or ministers to foreign countries'

Funny story about Wheeler, Even after entering the US army as a General fighting Spain, Joe remained true to his roots:
'Joseph Wheeler, a Confederate cavalry general in the Civil War, went on to serve as a major-general
during the Spanish-American war and forgetting his US uniform in the heat of a battle yelled "Let's go, boys!
We've got the damn Yankees on the run again!".
 
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Yes I am, and I defended it!

You can read my mind and you defended it. You can read my mind and you defended it.

Well. This is getting interesting, folks! I'm mighty curious to see where this is going to go.
 
No.

No. That is NOT an unequivocal condemnation of Neo-Nazis. You paired it with their false Doppelganger and thus are playing the "both sides are the same" card.

An unconditional condemnation of Neo-Nazis looks like this: "I condemn the Neo-Nazis and everything they stand for." No qualifiers, no false equivalences. Now can you do that, yes or no?

You're right. Both sides are not the same. The Antifa don't ask for police protection from the Nazis. The Nazis have to ask for police protection from the Antifa. The Nazis don't call police the enemy like the Antifa does. Many more Antifa clash with police and get arrested than do the Nazis. The liberal Berkeley mayor even calls the Antifa a "gang", putting them on equal footing with the Nazis. Take your gripe to the Berkeley mayor. If the Antifa dispersed, leaving only the Nazis, then the Nazis could alone be condemned. That's not what is happening. The Nazis are a fairly small harmless group compared to the Antifa. The Antifa are actually bringing notoriety to the Nazis through their violent actions and criminal behavior, much like gun sales exploded under Obama because gun owners were afraid Democrats would go overboard with gun control legislation. Gun sales are plummeting since Trump became president. All of these are great examples of liberal policies backfiring from their intended purpose.
 
You're right. Both sides are not the same. The Antifa don't ask for police protection from the Nazis. The Nazis have to ask for police protection from the Antifa. The Nazis don't call police the enemy like the Antifa does. Many more Antifa clash with police and get arrested than do the Nazis. The liberal Berkeley mayor even calls the Antifa a "gang", putting them on equal footing with the Nazis. Take your gripe to the Berkeley mayor. If the Antifa dispersed, leaving only the Nazis, then the Nazis could alone be condemned. That's not what is happening. The Nazis are a fairly small harmless group compared to the Antifa.

And there it is, folks. Not only will you not unequivocally condemn the Neo-Nazis, you don't even think they're that bad.

For the rest of you, why don't you look at the list of terrorist attacks in the US since 9/11 and see that white males have been causing quite a bit of the trouble. Of those nonwhite terrorists, most of them were home-grown. So in other words, it's American-on-American terrorism. And let's not forget that if we go back a little further in time, it was a radical anti-government white male who caused the second worst terrorist attack in US history.
 
You can read my mind and you defended it. You can read my mind and you defended it.

Well. This is getting interesting, folks! I'm mighty curious to see where this is going to go.

You're a confused person, let me clarify things.

Posted by Phys251 View Post
Are you not American, by chance?

My answer.>
Yes I am, and I defended it!

Try being sensible. your posts are where threads go to die.
And please, give that traitor stuff a long needed rest, it's obvious by your replies you can't defend that nonsense.
Smack your own face....I'm getting tired of doing it!
 
You're a confused person, let me clarify things.

Posted by Phys251 View Post
Are you not American, by chance?

My answer.>
Yes I am, and I defended it!

Try being sensible. your posts are where threads go to die.
And please, give that traitor stuff a long needed rest, it's obvious by your replies you can't defend that nonsense.
Smack your own face....I'm getting tired of doing it!

Not even going to try to stand by the implication that you can read my mind? Too bad, I thought we had something going here. Oh well, back to our regularly scheduled programming.
 
And there it is, folks. Not only will you not unequivocally condemn the Neo-Nazis, you don't even think they're that bad.

For the rest of you, why don't you look at the list of terrorist attacks in the US since 9/11 and see that white males have been causing quite a bit of the trouble. Of those nonwhite terrorists, most of them were home-grown. So in other words, it's American-on-American terrorism. And let's not forget that if we go back a little further in time, it was a radical anti-government white male who caused the second worst terrorist attack in US history.

So now you are saying that all white men are Nazis?
 
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