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Trump: I Didn't Draw Moral Equivalence

joG said:
Actually he didn't say anything that would be normally considered pandering. He said both sides had been illegally violent and should be condemned. On the other hand, the media said over and again that Trump had pandered to or supported the right extremists. So it is quite normal that many citizens would be falsely informed, if they haven't watched the videos.
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He pandered. We went out of his way not to denounce racist white hate groups. And that was not lost on those groups.
 
celticwar17 said:
Actions and Ideology are different things.... he was condemning the actions... Violence is morally equivalent to violence.
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Yes. Pushing an old woman in front of a moving truck is the same as pushing an old woman out of the way of a moving truck. In both cases, an old woman is pushed and thus it is morally equivalent to compare the pushers.
 
celticwar17 said:
Just like Commies love Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton... just because extremist groups like a particular position, person or policy, does not mean that person or policy is extremist...

But, I understand... you are trying to win this political game your'e playing... so go ahead..
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Nazis don't think Trump was condemning Nazis.
 
dobieg said:
I see liberals have turned into the new book burners.


Congratulations!
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Who was burning books? Do you have a link to this?
 
joG said:
He obviously said that violence was bad, whoever the perpetrator is. Such criminals are all criminals. But did he really use those words?
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The words "moral equivalence" are not in Trumps 3rd grade vocabulary so no. "Both sides" is what he said instead.
 
apdst said:
I have numerous times. Do you denounce BLM and antifa?
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Any violence yes. Their political positions in that they oppose fascist Nazi-like ideology, and genocide, no.
 
apdst said:
I have numerous times. Do you denounce BLM and antifa?
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I may not always agree with their tactics but I certainly do not denounce anti-fascism or equal treatment of blacks by law officers. Do you?
 
iguanaman said:
I may not always agree with their tactics but I certainly do not denounce anti-fascism or equal treatment of blacks by law officers. Do you?
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Do you agree with reperations?
 
celticwar17 said:
Just like Commies love Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton... just because extremist groups like a particular position, person or policy, does not mean that person or policy is extremist...

But, I understand... you are trying to win this political game your'e playing... so go ahead..
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How come Trump never named David Duke? He's aware that Duke publicly stated that the rally was to carry out Trump's policies, and Trump has never once stated that Duke is full of BS. Trump will not hesitate to personally attack anyone who even slightly disagrees with him, so why is he laying of Duke so much? Could it be that he does not want to lose his base support from racist conspiracy theorists?
 
JackA said:
Are you trying?

It's not that difficult: If you make a political statement that a Communist applauds, it is at least arguable that your political statement is a positive one from a Communist point of view.
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So if you say you like Abortion...it is at least arguable that your political statement is a positive one from a White Nationalist point of view?
 
iguanaman said:
Answer my question first.... Do you oppose fascism and racial profiling by law officers or not?
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I've stated a gazillion times that I oppose fascism.

Now, do you support the communist, genocidal agenda of BLM?
 
apdst said:
Slavery.
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Hmmmm. I suppose if they can resurrect those that actually were slaves a few hundred years ago, I wouldn't object. Other than that....Nope! :thumbdown:
 
apdst said:
I've stated a gazillion times that I oppose fascism.

Now, do you support the communist, genocidal agenda of BLM?
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LOL What are you talking about? Here are the stated goals of BLM. Most of them sound quite reasonable.

Ending "broken windows" policing, which aggressively polices minor crimes in an attempt to stop larger ones
using community oversight for misconduct rather than having police decide what consequences officers face
making standards for reporting police use of deadly force
independently investigating and prosecuting police misconduct
having the racial makeup of police departments reflect the communities they serve
requiring officers to wear body cameras
providing more training for police officers
ending for-profit policing practices
ending the police use of military equipment
implementing police union contracts that hold officers accountable for misconduct
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Black Lives Matters activists outline policy goals - BBC News
 
apdst said:
I've stated a gazillion times that I oppose fascism.

Now, do you support the communist, genocidal agenda of BLM?
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BLM are genocidal communists? On what planet?
 
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