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Whoa! Trump Cancels MFG Council

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I bet that list of red lines was approaching unanimous.
 
As I said in another thread the Impeachment has progressed too far to get this done.

This is part of a long term plan to deprive Trump of the ability to do the job, so that the claim can be made that he is not fit for the job, and then American people will let the Swamp take him out to the trash heap. I said way back in Feb that the plan was on, and that it will work, so there is no surprise here.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
As I said in another thread the Impeachment has progressed too far to get this done.

This is part of a long term plan to deprive Trump of the ability to do the job, so that the claim can be made that he is not fit for the job, and then American people will let the Swamp take him out to the trash heap. I said way back in Feb that the plan was on, and that it will work, so there is no surprise here.
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See we're already making excuses for Trump losing, I thought the thing he was best at was WINNING, or so it appeared in another thread.

lol

Maybe....just maybe, it's not everybody's fault but Trump's. Maybe Trump has a lot to do with this brouhaha.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
This is part of a long term plan to deprive Trump of the ability to do the job,.
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...perpetrated by Donald Trump himself.

I agree, Trump didn't plan on winning, and he's wittingly or unwittingly doing everything he can to ensure no one believes he can do the job. He's a big winner in this effort.

Obviously Trumps deliberate behavior with regards to VA, resulted in the council members leaving. To suggest that it's someone else's plan, when anyone can clearly see he played to white nationalists for controversy and support, and he got burned.
He won them, he lost others. This is the calculus of all politics. To suggest Trump is entirely ****ty at it, seems to be true.
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
As I said in another thread the Impeachment has progressed too far to get this done.

This is part of a long term plan to deprive Trump of the ability to do the job, so that the claim can be made that he is not fit for the job, and then American people will let the Swamp take him out to the trash heap. I said way back in Feb that the plan was on, and that it will work, so there is no surprise here.
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No it's abandon ship time, Trump is just preempting it to try and save face.
 
Next move is cutting loose the GOP ?????

:mrgreen:
 
calamity said:
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I bet that list of red lines was approaching unanimous.
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Actually, it is incomplete. By the time he did his childish ranting, Campell Soup and 3M CEOS had left I believe.
 
Chagos said:
Next move is cutting loose the GOP ?????

:mrgreen:
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Well they keep hanging with him. If in the 18 elections they lose the House/ or lose significant numbers and do not make significant gains in the Senate, they may well cut him lose.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
As I said in another thread the Impeachment has progressed too far to get this done.

This is part of a long term plan to deprive Trump of the ability to do the job, so that the claim can be made that he is not fit for the job, and then American people will let the Swamp take him out to the trash heap. I said way back in Feb that the plan was on, and that it will work, so there is no surprise here.
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It is that hope that liberals are building their hopes on and willfully damaging the country really badly.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
As I said in another thread the Impeachment has progressed too far to get this done.

This is part of a long term plan to deprive Trump of the ability to do the job, so that the claim can be made that he is not fit for the job, and then American people will let the Swamp take him out to the trash heap. I said way back in Feb that the plan was on, and that it will work, so there is no surprise here.
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Trump seems to be the main participant in your "plan". Did you see that coming too?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
This is part of a long term plan to deprive Trump of the ability to do the job, so that the claim can be made that he is not fit for the job
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Huh?! All Trump had to do was denounce the Nazis and KKK who were invoking his name. All he had to do was listen to his advisers.

I think you're ignoring the major problem with Trump. He doesn't listen to his advisers. He has no political experience yet he won't listen to more experienced people.

Whether you're for Trump or against, you can't deny that he handed this whole situation abysmally. As president, he's supposed to bring us together at times like this. He totally failed.

Some will argue that the media is nitpicking what he says. But it's just a fact that white supremacists were pleased with what Trump said. So, we can objectively say that Trump didn't denounce convincingly enough.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Huh?! All Trump had to do was denounce the Nazis and KKK who were invoking his name. All he had to do was listen to his advisers.

I think you're ignoring the major problem with Trump. He doesn't listen to his advisers. He has no political experience yet he won't listen to more experienced people.

Whether you're for Trump or against, you can't deny that he handed this whole situation abysmally. As president, he's supposed to bring us together at times like this. He totally failed.

Some will argue that the media is nitpicking what he says. But it's just a fact that white supremacists were pleased with what Trump said. So, we can objectively say that Trump didn't denounce convincingly enough.
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Sure I can....Trump is right, he is about the only one who is willing to speak up for right....The promoting of violence to get our way is what needs to be condemned first and foremost,,,,ANYONE who picks violence to ram their way down our throats needs to be called of for their incivility, whether we think that they think "right" or not.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Sure I can....Trump is right, he is about the only one who is willing to speak up for right....The promoting of violence to get our way is what needs to be condemned first and foremost,,,,ANYONE who picks violence to ram their way down our throats needs to be called of for their incivility, whether we think that they think "right" or not.
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So...what do you think we should do about people who use violence to ram their way down our throats?
 
iguanaman said:
Trump seems to be the main participant in your "plan". Did you see that coming too?
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Whom ever has the power to frame the story has the power to decide how the story ends, regardless of what the main actor does. I suspected once I did not see lawyers headed to Washington to support the Rebellion in Dec that the entire program was iffy, by the first of FEB I was sure that trump did not have enough power with the people to survive the Swamp....everything that came after had a certain irrelevance to it, though I appreciate PATRIOT TRUMP seeming to have decided to go out fighting.
 
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joG said:
It is that hope that liberals are building their hopes on and willfully damaging the country really badly.
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No, this is pretty much a conservative self inflicted wound.
 
calamity said:
Holy crap!



I bet everyone quit after that stupid press conference yesterday.
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Holy crap nothing. Those are the people gutting American jobs and buying from China because they can save a dollar. They want two things: cheap labor and cheap components. That's it. There is no "American Worker First!"

They don't give two squirts of owl **** about you.

If they want to leave because they are being pressured, then leave. It's like Obamacare inviting big pharma in to write the regs.
 
chuckiechan said:
Holy crap nothing. Those are the people gutting American jobs and buying from China because they can save a dollar. They want two things: cheap labor and cheap components. That's it. There is no "American Worker First!"

They don't give two squirts of owl **** about you.

If they want to leave because they are being pressured, then leave. It's like Obamacare inviting big pharma in to write the regs.
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Hmmm...interesting comment: "American Worker First." Are you a labor union supporter? A fan of increased minimum wages? Worker safety? That sort of thing.

Wjy do I suspect you could not give two ****s about the actual worker part in "American Worker"?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Whom ever has the power to frame the story has the power to decide how the story ends, regardless of what the main actor does. I suspected once I did not see lawyers headed to Washington to support the Rebellion in Dec that the entire program was iffy, by the first of FEB I was sure that trump did not have enough power with the people to survive the Swamp....everything that came after had a certain irrelevance to it, though I appreciate PATRIOT TRUMP seeming to have decided to go out fighting.
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Wow! You will jump through any flaming hoop available to avoid saying the obvious: Trump sucks.
 
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