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What Is Alt-Right?

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I tend to avoid using the term since I really have no clue what exactly it is. Can't use a phrase properly if you do not know what it means. SO I ask the simple question, what is alt-right? I really only want the opinions of people who identify as alt-right, or at least are Trump supporters or conservative or republican. And please, please, please do not Godwin this thread any one. One thread where no one is called that group would be really nice.

Note: I am not looking to argue or debate with this thread, so much as learn, and give people a chance to explain, hopefully without things going to badly to hell.
 
Can't say I'm exactly sure. I've just been taking it as a variation of "radical" and/or "extreme."
 
I tend to avoid using the term since I really have no clue what exactly it is. Can't use a phrase properly if you do not know what it means. SO I ask the simple question, what is alt-right? I really only want the opinions of people who identify as alt-right, or at least are Trump supporters or conservative or republican. And please, please, please do not Godwin this thread any one. One thread where no one is called that group would be really nice.

Note: I am not looking to argue or debate with this thread, so much as learn, and give people a chance to explain, hopefully without things going to badly to hell.

Here is the problem, the original meaning of alt-right was a self described white nationalist term to differentiate themself from the rest of the right. Then the media used is as a broad term to attempt to paint all Trump supporters as racists and now the meaning has now kinda morphed into meaning the whole block of anti-globalization, anti-elite, populists.
 
Here is the problem, the original meaning of alt-right was a self described white nationalist term to differentiate themself from the rest of the right. Then the media used is as a broad term to attempt to paint all Trump supporters as racists and now the meaning has now kinda morphed into meaning the whole block of anti-globalization, anti-elite, populists.

That would certainly explain the difficulty in pinning a definition to it.
 
I tend to avoid using the term since I really have no clue what exactly it is. Can't use a phrase properly if you do not know what it means. SO I ask the simple question, what is alt-right? I really only want the opinions of people who identify as alt-right, or at least are Trump supporters or conservative or republican. And please, please, please do not Godwin this thread any one. One thread where no one is called that group would be really nice.

Note: I am not looking to argue or debate with this thread, so much as learn, and give people a chance to explain, hopefully without things going to badly to hell.

Apparently the ALT right are the new wing of the Republican Party. The Alt right wants a completely WHITE country, and feels that anyone that is not white should leave this country. That they don't belong in this country.
The Alt-Right Branding War Has Torn the Movement in Two | The New Yorker
http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/largest-fascist-rally-charlottesville
How the Conservative Movement Went All in for Trumpism - Rolling Stone
 
I tend to avoid using the term since I really have no clue what exactly it is. Can't use a phrase properly if you do not know what it means. SO I ask the simple question, what is alt-right? I really only want the opinions of people who identify as alt-right, or at least are Trump supporters or conservative or republican. And please, please, please do not Godwin this thread any one. One thread where no one is called that group would be really nice.

Note: I am not looking to argue or debate with this thread, so much as learn, and give people a chance to explain, hopefully without things going to badly to hell.

Apparently the ALT right are the new wing of the Republican Party. The Alt right wants a completely WHITE country, and feels that anyone that is not white should leave this country. That they don't belong in this country.
The Alt-Right Branding War Has Torn the Movement in Two | The New Yorker
The Largest Fascist Rally in Recent Memory Is Expected This Week?It Must Be Challenged | Alternet
How the Conservative Movement Went All in for Trumpism - Rolling Stone
 
Apparently the ALT right are the new wing of the Republican Party. The Alt right wants a completely WHITE country, and feels that anyone that is not white should leave this country. That they don't belong in this country.
The Alt-Right Branding War Has Torn the Movement in Two | The New Yorker
The Largest Fascist Rally in Recent Memory Is Expected This Week?It Must Be Challenged | Alternet
How the Conservative Movement Went All in for Trumpism - Rolling Stone

"Apparently" is where you start to go wrong. I am not interested in guesses, nor what some article says, but on what they say. Shouldn't they be allowed to define who they are?
 
Apparently the ALT right are the new wing of the Republican Party.
The Alt right wants a completely WHITE country, and feels that anyone that is not white should leave this country.
That they don't belong in this country.
The Alt-Right Branding War Has Torn the Movement in Two | The New Yorker
The Largest Fascist Rally in Recent Memory Is Expected This Week?It Must Be Challenged | Alternet
How the Conservative Movement Went All in for Trumpism - Rolling Stone


The Alt-Right has a huge problem staring them in the face,in about 50 years,after massive demographic change hits full force like a tidal wave non-Hispanic Whites will be a minority of the USA's population.How will they dominate a country in which they're out numbered?

Fill us in.

Apartheid didn't survive in South Africa and it won't succeed in the USA.

Wait and see.


"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time,GOP.

The clock is ticking.

Me-I support equal rights for all.
 
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The Alt-Right has a huge problem staring them in the face,in about 50 years,after massive demographic change hits full force like a tidal wave non-Hispanic Whites will be a minority of the USA's population.How will they dominate a country in which they're out numbered?

Fill us in.

Apartheid didn't survive in South Africa and it won't succeed in the USA.

Wait and see.


"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time,GOP.

The clock is ticking.

Me-I support equal rights for all.

Thank you for completely ignoring the questions asked and topic of the thread!
 
I tend to avoid using the term since I really have no clue what exactly it is. Can't use a phrase properly if you do not know what it means. SO I ask the simple question, what is alt-right? I really only want the opinions of people who identify as alt-right, or at least are Trump supporters or conservative or republican. And please, please, please do not Godwin this thread any one. One thread where no one is called that group would be really nice.

Note: I am not looking to argue or debate with this thread, so much as learn, and give people a chance to explain, hopefully without things going to badly to hell.

"Unite the Right" suggests the alt-right is trying to organize all the white nationalists/ supremacist groups under one banner called...Alt-Right.

Some of the rightwing hate groups are already connected to hate groups in Europe. I don't think standing idly by while they organize and march all over us is the answer. Unfortunately, we have a president that is legitimizing them.
 
"Unite the Right" suggests the alt-right is trying to organize all the white nationalists/ supremacist groups under one banner called...Alt-Right.

Some of the rightwing hate groups are already connected to hate groups in Europe. I don't think standing idly by while they organize and march all over us is the answer. Unfortunately, we have a president that is legitimizing them.

So basically, letting people explain their own beliefs is not something we can do. Instead we have to assign them beliefs, and then wonder why we cannot have reasonable discussions...
 
I tend to avoid using the term since I really have no clue what exactly it is. Can't use a phrase properly if you do not know what it means. SO I ask the simple question, what is alt-right? I really only want the opinions of people who identify as alt-right, or at least are Trump supporters or conservative or republican. And please, please, please do not Godwin this thread any one. One thread where no one is called that group would be really nice.

Note: I am not looking to argue or debate with this thread, so much as learn, and give people a chance to explain, hopefully without things going to badly to hell.

My thoughts about what the ALT-right means; An alternative to the right wing style of politics that has been changing and evolving away from what they want. They support freedom of speech and include hate speech as a freedom. They support nationalism in term of foreign policy and immigration policy. Meaning they tend to oppose wars, like terriffs, and want less immigrants to come into the country as well as kicking out all the illegal immigrants. They support right to work state policies, they dont usually like unions. They hate affirmative action laws and support a merit based society. The smartest kids get into college, the most qualified gets the job. No special protections for races, religions, genders, etc.
With these policies you tend to get more whites to like these ideas because they can see that policies that we are currently under holds white people down because of their race. The current policies props up certin races and holds down white races. It allows for protections of a certain group and discrimenation of another. Now you can argue the merit of having such a system but you cant deny the double standard. The ALT-right really wants an open and free society that wont discriminate on any race or religion or gender. But becuase the openess would certiainly make white peoples lives better you see white surpemicists, KKK, Nazis, and other groups subscribe to the movement. Even thou the ALT-right and nazism doesnt align they can ban together to create a higher population subscription to make the movement hold more weight. The media and the people that oppose do there best to make sure all you hear and read is ALT-right is facist, nazis. They want to kill jews and blacks and believe in white superiority. Any thing they can to delegitimize and paint the movement as something bad to keep people from joining. Now watch all the lefties on this sight flock to try and change your opinion and paint my statements as wrong and try show the ALT-right as some hate group.
 
Thank you for completely ignoring the questions asked and topic of the thread!


You are entitled to your opinion but it will have no effect on reality.


"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers

I will never support censorship no matter who's promoting it.
 
You are entitled to your opinion but it will have no effect on reality.


"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers

I will never support censorship no matter who's promoting it.

Do you pull random phrases out of a bag?
 
A good question. I dont know what it started out as, but it is clear now what it is... a far right movement based on racism, nationalism, isolationism and large portions of fascism involved. The alt-rights attack on traditional media while lying their own asses off, is a symbol of how bad the alt-right has become.
 
The Alt-Right has a huge problem staring them in the face,in about 50 years,after massive demographic change hits full force like a tidal wave non-Hispanic Whites will be a minority of the USA's population.How will they dominate a country in which they're out numbered?

Fill us in.

Apartheid didn't survive in South Africa and it won't succeed in the USA.

Wait and see.


"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time,GOP.

The clock is ticking.

Me-I support equal rights for all.

I think posts like this show why the alt-right has gained such a foot hold. The only way non-hispanic whites become a minority would be to continue the massive immigration policy we have for several more decades. In essence you want people from other countries to come into the US and change it's policies. Do you not see the inherent flaw in that logic? That would be proving the alt-right fears correct and only make them stronger. The alt-right must be defeated from within by better ideas not externally by brute force.
 
I tend to avoid using the term since I really have no clue what exactly it is. Can't use a phrase properly if you do not know what it means. SO I ask the simple question, what is alt-right? I really only want the opinions of people who identify as alt-right, or at least are Trump supporters or conservative or republican. And please, please, please do not Godwin this thread any one. One thread where no one is called that group would be really nice.

Note: I am not looking to argue or debate with this thread, so much as learn, and give people a chance to explain, hopefully without things going to badly to hell.

There is some debate, regardless of what people like Spencer et all claim, about the origin of the term Alt Right.
Originally and broadly speaking, they were a break away from typical conservatism expressed by the Republican party.
Again, generally speaking, they were civic nationalists, non or (sometimes) anti religious, non interventionist, sometimes to often opposed to free trade and most were indifferent to supportive of LGBT issues.
It was used as a broad basket term of the new millennial right.

Now I'm not trying to be all anti Hillary, but she was the person who brought the term to mainstream and with that the accusations that it was a tag for people who were racists/neo nazis.
Yes there were people of that stripe who used the tag but given how it was rather informal, that's not surprising.
After that event, the non supremacists swapped to using the terms "New Right" and "Alt Lite."
An example of these people would be Gavin McInnes and Jack Posobiec, although a lot of people still call them alt right as a slur/to discredit them.

Alt right is now either, white nationalists (who want an ethnostate but claim to be not racist) and white supremacists.
You can shoe horn the KKK into there, but I don't think they actually fit in the "alt right" because their other political views are poorly defined.
 
I tend to avoid using the term since I really have no clue what exactly it is. Can't use a phrase properly if you do not know what it means. SO I ask the simple question, what is alt-right? I really only want the opinions of people who identify as alt-right, or at least are Trump supporters or conservative or republican. And please, please, please do not Godwin this thread any one. One thread where no one is called that group would be really nice.

Note: I am not looking to argue or debate with this thread, so much as learn, and give people a chance to explain, hopefully without things going to badly to hell.

According to Richard Spencer, the guy who coined the term, it is about identitarianism. And that's basically how it was used prior to 2016, as well as this year since non-identitarians who've used the term have distanced themselves from it.
 
Crovax;1067529410[B said:
]I think posts like this show why the alt-right has gained such a foot hold.
[/B]The only way non-hispanic whites become a minority would be to continue the massive immigration policy we have for several more decades. In essence you want people from other countries to come into the US and change it's policies. Do you not see the inherent flaw in that logic? That would be proving the alt-right fears correct and only make them stronger. The alt-right must be defeated from within by better ideas not externally by brute force.

How will the Alt-Right have any power in the USA when non-Hispanic Whites are a minority of the population?

Fill us in.
Believe whatever you want to believe.Your incorrect ideas will have no effect on reality.

"No one can stop time and/or change."

:lol:
 
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There is some debate, regardless of what people like Spencer et all claim, about the origin of the term Alt Right.
Originally and broadly speaking, they were a break away from typical conservatism expressed by the Republican party.
Again, generally speaking, they were civic nationalists

The use of the term has been consistent since 2008. It was briefly co-opted by civic nationalists for part of 2016. That it meant identitarianism until then is a matter of well established fact.
 
The use of the term has been consistent since 2008. It was briefly co-opted by civic nationalists for part of 2016. That it meant identitarianism until then is a matter of well established fact.

It's debated, because I've heard the term used well before 2016 by civic nationalists.
 
So basically, letting people explain their own beliefs is not something we can do. Instead we have to assign them beliefs, and then wonder why we cannot have reasonable discussions...

They can repackage and call themselves anything they want...but their racist beliefs and bigotry haven't really changed in over 150 years. The only difference is that instead of white robes and hoods....they wear a suit and tie or khakis and polo shirts....and instead of using a rope to lynch people...they use the internet and social media.

The Alt-right wants to be the big tent for white nationalists, supremacists, bigots, homophobes and sexists. So what else is there to know?


"If the camel gets his nose in the tent, his body will soon follow."

Beware the nose of the Alt-right.
 
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