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What Is Alt-Right?

It was informal usage, from old forums, comments, etc.
Given that the group slowly coalesced, I don't have a written body of works to cite showing this.

Any instance of civic nationalists using the term before 2016 would be nice. There are certainly plenty of documented uses of it by identitarians.
 
A comment published in November of last year is not a valid source. Link to some civic nationalist figure using the term before 2016.

I can't, you don't have to believe me.
I learned about them informally, through various comments on old youtube vids, reddit, etc.
 
I can't, you don't have to believe me.
I learned about them informally, through various comments on old youtube vids, reddit, etc.

Okay, so on the one side we have:

The AlternativeRight blog
Steve Sailer's blog
NPI
American Renassaince
Etc.

And on the other:

Some random people on the internet who claim to have been using the term
 
Requoting me, to you.

"you don't have to believe me."

Even if said random people are telling the truth, it doesn't matter. Established organizations and publications are more important than comments on reddit or wherever.

Trying to make this about personal credibility is asinine. Anything capable of defining a movement will be readily capable of being documented.
 
Thank you for completely ignoring the questions asked and topic of the thread!

Which do you think is more likely: that these people commented without reading the OP, or that they read it and understood what you were looking for, but were unable to restrain themselves?
 
Even if said random people are telling the truth, it doesn't matter. Established organizations and publications are more important than comments on reddit or wherever.

Trying to make this about personal credibility is asinine. Anything capable of defining a movement will be readily capable of being documented.

Not necessarily.
Blogs and minor publications vs. a larger body of people.
I mean Pepe the frog was just a cartoon, then his usage went viral as a meme and his usage is no longer related to the cartoon.
 
Do you pull random phrases out of a bag?

He quite literally does. He uses the same handful of quotes all over the place on here. It's slightly less uniform & consistent than the other 90% of what he writes, so it helps change the pace up for him.
 
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How will the Alt-Right have any power in the USA when non-Hispanic Whites are a minority of the population?

Fill us in.
Believe whatever you want to believe.Your incorrect ideas will have no effect on reality.

"No one can stop time and/or change."

:lol:

Ah, but if no one can stop change, how can you guarantee that change will not change into a different change that changes the present to be more like the past instead of the future, thereby stopping change through the power of changing change?
 
Not necessarily.
Blogs and minor publications vs. a larger body of people.
I mean Pepe the frog was just a cartoon, then his usage went viral as a meme and his usage is no longer related to the cartoon.

A (entirely hypothetical and unsubstantiated) group of people that had no discernible effect.

I'm talking about political movements, not cartoons.
 
There is no clearly defined definition for the Alt-Right, because it is in a state of constant change.
 
My thoughts about what the ALT-right means; An alternative to the right wing style of politics that has been changing and evolving away from what they want. They support freedom of speech and include hate speech as a freedom. They support nationalism in term of foreign policy and immigration policy. Meaning they tend to oppose wars, like terriffs, and want less immigrants to come into the country as well as kicking out all the illegal immigrants. They support right to work state policies, they dont usually like unions. They hate affirmative action laws and support a merit based society. The smartest kids get into college, the most qualified gets the job. No special protections for races, religions, genders, etc.
With these policies you tend to get more whites to like these ideas because they can see that policies that we are currently under holds white people down because of their race. The current policies props up certin races and holds down white races. It allows for protections of a certain group and discrimenation of another. Now you can argue the merit of having such a system but you cant deny the double standard. The ALT-right really wants an open and free society that wont discriminate on any race or religion or gender. But becuase the openess would certiainly make white peoples lives better you see white surpemicists, KKK, Nazis, and other groups subscribe to the movement. Even thou the ALT-right and nazism doesnt align they can ban together to create a higher population subscription to make the movement hold more weight. The media and the people that oppose do there best to make sure all you hear and read is ALT-right is facist, nazis. They want to kill jews and blacks and believe in white superiority. Any thing they can to delegitimize and paint the movement as something bad to keep people from joining. Now watch all the lefties on this sight flock to try and change your opinion and paint my statements as wrong and try show the ALT-right as some hate group.

The lefties don't need to prove that Alt-right are fascists and Nazi's....they did that all by themselves....


"...They immediately went after the Jews. At their Friday night rally at the University of Virginia, the white nationalists brandished torches and chanted anti-Semitic and Nazi slogans, including “blood and soil” (an English rendering of the Nazi “blut und boden”) and “Jews will not replace us” — all crafted to cast Jews as foreign interlopers who need to be expunged. The attendees proudly displayed giant swastikas and wore shirts emblazoned with quotes from Adolf Hitler. One banner read, “Jews are Satan’s children.”

“The truth is,” Duke told a large crowd Saturday, “the American media, and the American political system, and the American Federal Reserve, is dominated by a tiny minority: the Jewish Zionist cause.” Addressing another group, Richard Spencer mocked Charlottesville’s Jewish mayor, Mike Signer. “Little Mayor Signer — ‘See-ner’ — how do you pronounce this little creep’s name?” Spencer asked. The crowd responded by chanting, “Jew, Jew, Jew.” In TV interviews, attendees were not shy about their anti-Semitism....

And James Fields Jr., the man who is accused of mowing down protesters that day, killing one and injuring 19, “had this fascination with Nazism and a big idolatry of Adolf Hitler,” according to his high school history teacher. He was previously photographed at a rally for Vanguard America, a neo-Nazi group dedicated to fighting “the international Jew.”...."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...macists-go-after-jews/?utm_term=.1443022abc4c
 
The lefties don't need to prove that Alt-right are fascists and Nazi's....they did that all by themselves....


"...They immediately went after the Jews. At their Friday night rally at the University of Virginia, the white nationalists brandished torches and chanted anti-Semitic and Nazi slogans, including “blood and soil” (an English rendering of the Nazi “blut und boden”) and “Jews will not replace us” — all crafted to cast Jews as foreign interlopers who need to be expunged. The attendees proudly displayed giant swastikas and wore shirts emblazoned with quotes from Adolf Hitler. One banner read, “Jews are Satan’s children.”

“The truth is,” Duke told a large crowd Saturday, “the American media, and the American political system, and the American Federal Reserve, is dominated by a tiny minority: the Jewish Zionist cause.” Addressing another group, Richard Spencer mocked Charlottesville’s Jewish mayor, Mike Signer. “Little Mayor Signer — ‘See-ner’ — how do you pronounce this little creep’s name?” Spencer asked. The crowd responded by chanting, “Jew, Jew, Jew.” In TV interviews, attendees were not shy about their anti-Semitism....

And James Fields Jr., the man who is accused of mowing down protesters that day, killing one and injuring 19, “had this fascination with Nazism and a big idolatry of Adolf Hitler,” according to his high school history teacher. He was previously photographed at a rally for Vanguard America, a neo-Nazi group dedicated to fighting “the international Jew.”...."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...macists-go-after-jews/?utm_term=.1443022abc4c

Just cause a group movement has nazi joining doesnt make the whole movement our group a nazi or a nazi sympothizer. Thats just what the media and democrates want you think so they can better detour people from the movement and from the real problems.
 
The lefties don't need to prove that Alt-right are fascists and Nazi's....they did that all by themselves....


"...They immediately went after the Jews. At their Friday night rally at the University of Virginia, the white nationalists brandished torches and chanted anti-Semitic and Nazi slogans, including “blood and soil” (an English rendering of the Nazi “blut und boden”) and “Jews will not replace us” — all crafted to cast Jews as foreign interlopers who need to be expunged. The attendees proudly displayed giant swastikas and wore shirts emblazoned with quotes from Adolf Hitler. One banner read, “Jews are Satan’s children.”

“The truth is,” Duke told a large crowd Saturday, “the American media, and the American political system, and the American Federal Reserve, is dominated by a tiny minority: the Jewish Zionist cause.” Addressing another group, Richard Spencer mocked Charlottesville’s Jewish mayor, Mike Signer. “Little Mayor Signer — ‘See-ner’ — how do you pronounce this little creep’s name?” Spencer asked. The crowd responded by chanting, “Jew, Jew, Jew.” In TV interviews, attendees were not shy about their anti-Semitism....

And James Fields Jr., the man who is accused of mowing down protesters that day, killing one and injuring 19, “had this fascination with Nazism and a big idolatry of Adolf Hitler,” according to his high school history teacher. He was previously photographed at a rally for Vanguard America, a neo-Nazi group dedicated to fighting “the international Jew.”...."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...macists-go-after-jews/?utm_term=.1443022abc4c

And we go full Godwin. Good ****ing job...
 
I tend to avoid using the term since I really have no clue what exactly it is. Can't use a phrase properly if you do not know what it means. SO I ask the simple question, what is alt-right? I really only want the opinions of people who identify as alt-right, or at least are Trump supporters or conservative or republican. And please, please, please do not Godwin this thread any one. One thread where no one is called that group would be really nice.

Note: I am not looking to argue or debate with this thread, so much as learn, and give people a chance to explain, hopefully without things going to badly to hell.

Not alt-right, but I would like to give a shot here to a relatively objective definition.

Alt-right is a broad term that encompasses a lot of different things that are more defined by being in opposition to liberalism than necessarily in alliance to conservatism. Most are younger, and most are populist and nationalist in a broad sense (i.e. isolationist). However, they have a broad range of underlying ideologies, from neoreactionary to monarchist. The majority are varying degrees of white nationalist and MRA/anti-feminist.

As I said, despite the name, most of them don't have anything in common with the traditional American right. Few are religious traditionalists (revival Norse pagans and atheists are both common, though Christians -- especially "cultural Christians" -- are not uncommon) and few are economic conservatives.
 
I tend to avoid using the term since I really have no clue what exactly it is. Can't use a phrase properly if you do not know what it means. SO I ask the simple question, what is alt-right? I really only want the opinions of people who identify as alt-right, or at least are Trump supporters or conservative or republican. And please, please, please do not Godwin this thread any one. One thread where no one is called that group would be really nice.

Note: I am not looking to argue or debate with this thread, so much as learn, and give people a chance to explain, hopefully without things going to badly to hell.
This is funny. the OP says they don't know what the alt-right is then lumps Trump supporters into the alt-right.

I am a Trump supporter. The alt-right is the extreme right. The conservatives, or established right, are for small government so the alt-right is for teeny, tiny government and in many cases, for no government, for anarchy. Just like the alt-left is for rampant (probably 100%) socialism, Communism or anarchy.
 
The Alt-Right has a huge problem staring them in the face,in about 50 years,after massive demographic change hits full force like a tidal wave non-Hispanic Whites will be a minority of the USA's population.How will they dominate a country in which they're out numbered?

Fill us in.

Apartheid didn't survive in South Africa and it won't succeed in the USA.

Wait and see.


"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time,GOP.

The clock is ticking.

Me-I support equal rights for all.

Good grief, there's no apartheid in the US.
 
Here is the problem, the original meaning of alt-right was a self described white nationalist term to differentiate themself from the rest of the right. Then the media used is as a broad term to attempt to paint all Trump supporters as racists and now the meaning has now kinda morphed into meaning the whole block of anti-globalization, anti-elite, populists.

Nope, Crovax, wrong. Alt Right is a grouping of elements that share anti democracy, white supremacism, uber nationalism, nativism, ethnocentrism, and racialism as core elements.
 
This is funny. the OP says they don't know what the alt-right is then lumps Trump supporters into the alt-right.

I am a Trump supporter. The alt-right is the extreme right. The conservatives, or established right, are for small government so the alt-right is for teeny, tiny government and in many cases, for no government, for anarchy. Just like the alt-left is for rampant (probably 100%) socialism, Communism or anarchy.

I voted Trump and the OP does not lump Trump supporters in with the alt-right at all. He's trying to understand the term and he's asking what the term means to more right leaning members because I suspect he already knows what it means to those who are more left leaners.
 
I voted Trump and the OP does not lump Trump supporters in with the alt-right at all. He's trying to understand the term and he's asking what the term means to more right leaning members because I suspect he already knows what it means to those who are more left leaners.
QUOTE=Redress;1067529327]I tend to avoid using the term since I really have no clue what exactly it is. Can't use a phrase properly if you do not know what it means. SO I ask the simple question, what is alt-right? I really only want the opinions of people who identify as alt-right, or at least are Trump supporters or conservative or republican. And please, please, please do not Godwin this thread any one. One thread where no one is called that group would be really nice.

Note: I am not looking to argue or debate with this thread, so much as learn, and give people a chance to explain, hopefully without things going to badly to hell.[/QUOTE]
 
I tend to avoid using the term since I really have no clue what exactly it is. Can't use a phrase properly if you do not know what it means. SO I ask the simple question, what is alt-right? I really only want the opinions of people who identify as alt-right, or at least are Trump supporters or conservative or republican. And please, please, please do not Godwin this thread any one. One thread where no one is called that group would be really nice.

Note: I am not looking to argue or debate with this thread, so much as learn, and give people a chance to explain, hopefully without things going to badly to hell.
Are Trump supporters alt-right? If I profess myself to be a centrist, how can I be alt-right?
 
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