Presidentr Condemns Alt-Left

Geoist · Aug 16, 2017

phattonez said:
He protested them exclusively on Monday. That's now not good enough

He protested them exclusively on Monday because that speech was damage control. Of course it wasn't good enough because everyone knew it was scripted by his writing staff. None of the words were his own. Even the far-right didn't believe his words on Monday:

"He sounded like a Sunday school teacher. I just don’t take him seriously. It sounded so hollow and vapid." - Richard Spencer

Of course, Trump would completely backtrack 24 hours later and the white supremacists cheered. :lamo

jimbo · Aug 16, 2017

Phys251 said:
Show me EXACTLY where you did this. All I see in this thread is your liking a bunch of "both sides are the same" posts.

I'll condemn any deliberate murderer no matter what their status.

What more do you want?

I never said both sides are the same. I said both sides are responsible.

Phys251 · Aug 16, 2017

jimbo said:
I'll condemn any deliberate murderer no matter what their status.

What more do you want?

Which side had a guy plow through the streets and deliberately run protesters over, killing one of them? Which side, jimbo?

I never said both sides are the same. I said both sides are responsible.

10-out-of-10 on that mental backflip you just did. You going for some kind of Olympic gold?

jimbo · Aug 16, 2017

Phys251 said:
Which side had a guy plow through the streets and deliberately run protesters over, killing one of them? Which side, jimbo?

10-out-of-10 on that mental backflip you just did. You going for some kind of Olympic gold?

You've reached the absurd, Bye bye.

Geoist · Aug 16, 2017

phattonez said:
They also had makeshift flamethrowers, mace, piss bottles.

Lol, mace? My wife carries mace everywhere she goes. Would be dumb not to bring mace to a rally.

Come on now, don't act as if a large crowd with bats surrounding your car isn't a totally dangerous situations.

No evidence he was surrounded until after the collision.

In the first few frames his brake lights are on.

Which proves...? Nothing. He could have been controlling his speed. He was going downhill, after all. He wanted to do damage but he clearly didn't want to suicide it.

Come on now. If you're surrounded by a large crowd with bats, let's see how comfortable you feel.

No evidence he was surrounded, let alone being attacked until the protest sign hit his car, and he was already well on his way towards the crowd. If he was afraid of the protesters he wouldn't have driven towards them.

phattonez · Aug 16, 2017

Geoist said:
He protested them exclusively on Monday because that speech was damage control. Of course it wasn't good enough because everyone knew it was scripted by his writing staff. None of the words were his own. Even the far-right didn't believe his words on Monday:

"He sounded like a Sunday school teacher. I just don’t take him seriously. It sounded so hollow and vapid." - Richard Spencer

Of course, Trump would completely backtrack 24 hours later and the white supremacists cheered. :lamo

It's amazing how you have the ability to read minds. You could make a fortune with that, you know.

Rexedgar · Aug 16, 2017

How does a twenty something pay for a late model car that gets poor gas mileage? I figure at least one fill up on the way from, what Ohio? What sort of work does/did this guy do? And if he was on the ground during the protest, why drive his car into the protest area?

Phys251 · Aug 16, 2017

jimbo said:
You've reached the absurd, Bye bye.

Wow, that was quick. Very well, I accept your surrender.

phattonez · Aug 16, 2017

Geoist said:
Lol, mace? My wife carries mace everywhere she goes. Would be dumb not to bring mace to a rally.

Does your wife carry flame throwers?

No evidence he was surrounded until after the collision.

All of those cars were surrounded and stuck.

Which proves...? Nothing. He could have been controlling his speed. He was going downhill, after all. He wanted to do damage but he clearly didn't want to suicide it.

There's that mind reading ability again. Seriously, make a career of it.

No evidence he was surrounded, let alone being attacked until the protest sign hit his car, and he was already well on his way towards the crowd. If he was afraid of the protesters he wouldn't have driven towards them.

This mind reading just doesn't stop. Neither you nor I know where he came from, where he was going, nor what he was doing, yet you can read out of a 10 second video motive, thought process, and guilt. Incredible.

phattonez · Aug 16, 2017

Rexedgar said:
How does a twenty something pay for a late model car that gets poor gas mileage? I figure at least one fill up on the way from, what Ohio? What sort of work does/did this guy do? And if he was on the ground during the protest, why drive his car into the protest area?

How does a car even get into this area hours after the police supposedly shut it down?

Dittohead not! · Aug 17, 2017

phattonez said:
I can't say what the motive was. I just want to make the point that there are extenuating circumstances here and that we can't so easily say that it was 2nd degree murder. He was attacked, he was surrounded by people with weapons. It's a dangerous situation to be in.

There can be no extenuating circumstances for an act of terrorism, which is what happened.

Nor can there be any sort of justification for the president of the United States not calling it what it was and for him trying to blame the "alt left," a group he made up, for the violence. How is it that his reaction to the terrorist attack has been roundly denounced by Republicans and Democrats alike, yet the core supporters still try to support Trump? What will he have to do or say before they will finally admit what a horrendous mistake was made in the last election?

Geoist · Aug 17, 2017

phattonez said:
It's amazing how you have the ability to read minds. You could make a fortune with that, you know.

Why read minds when you can read their own words?

Geoist · Aug 17, 2017

phattonez said:
Does your wife carry flame throwers?

You brought up mace. Just thought that was a funny thing for you to mention.

All of those cars were surrounded and stuck.

And?

There's that mind reading ability again. Seriously, make a career of it.

Are you the only one allowed to speculate?

This mind reading just doesn't stop. Neither you nor I know where he came from, where he was going, nor what he was doing, yet you can read out of a 10 second video motive, thought process, and guilt. Incredible.

I have my opinion based on the evidence I've seen. None of the evidence you guys have presented has swayed me.

phattonez · Aug 17, 2017

Geoist said:
You brought up mace. Just thought that was a funny thing for you to mention.

And?

Are you the only one allowed to speculate?

I have my opinion based on the evidence I've seen. None of the evidence you guys have presented has swayed me.

We'll just see how it ends up in court. I'm just saying that it's not immediately obvious that it was a terrorist attack, especially when there's info like I presented and this floating around.

I could even be wrong, maybe it was totally intentional and premeditated. Let's wait for the court to decide.

Geoist · Aug 17, 2017

phattonez said:
We'll just see how it ends up in court. I'm just saying that it's not immediately obvious that it was a terrorist attack, especially when there's info like I presented and this floating around.

I could even be wrong, maybe it was totally intentional and premeditated. Let's wait for the court to decide.

And there is certainly a good chance he could be found not guilty. Only takes one juror and only takes a seed of doubt.

phattonez · Aug 17, 2017

Geoist said:
And there is certainly a good chance he could be found not guilty. Only takes one juror and only takes a seed of doubt.

Personally I think there is enough doubt that he's not going to be convicted of 2nd degree murder.

Involuntary manslaughter? Hard to say there.

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