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The Poison of Identity Politics: White Nationalism is Part of a Deeper Problem

Phys251 said:
Stopped reading right there. Maybe you don't believe in free speech to call out white supremacy? Or maybe you believe that both sides were in that car that deliberately drove into the protesters.
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The Rightwing is all about their false equivalencies today.
 
Phys251 said:
Stopped reading right there. Maybe you don't believe in free speech to call out white supremacy? Or maybe you believe that both sides were in that car that deliberately drove into the protesters.
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Wow, such a moronic and close minded statement? dorsai, gave perhaps the most sober and intelligent response I've seen in a long time on DP, and one that is shared by most rational white, brown, black, yellow people in America, and you STILL feel the need to place blame. News flash, the KKK are allowed to spout off, and rally, and march, just as much as any other ideological group. When two competing and clearly militant groups such as these meet, there's enough blame to go around. Deal with it.


Tim-
 
Hicup said:
Wow, such a moronic and close minded statement? dorsai, gave perhaps the most sober and intelligent response I've seen in a long time on DP, and one that is shared by most rational white, brown, black, yellow people in America, and you STILL feel the need to place blame. News flash, the KKK are allowed to spout off, and rally, and march, just as much as any other ideological group. When two competing and clearly militant groups such as these meet, there's enough blame to go around. Deal with it.


Tim-
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I'll bet you also believe that it was OK for that driver to plow into the crowd! SAD
 
MrWonka said:
So you're claiming that white people are victim's because they're stupid enough to think they're victim's? This is some next level victim blaming here. The fact that white people are drawing stupid and delusional conclusions isn't the fault of the people criticizing them.
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Are you saying white people are stupid?
 
Phys251 said:
:lamo

I'll bet you also believe that it was OK for that driver to plow into the crowd! SAD
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You're clearly emotional, I'll defer.. Oh, wasn't it you in that Volstock thread that initially liked comments regarding the possibility this guy might have panicked? Changed your mind already, Phys251? I'll wait for more details before I render judgement, questions like what was he doing there in the first place? My initial instinct is the the little piece of **** murdered innocent people by using his car a s weapon, but I could be wrong.


Tim-
 
Hicup said:
You're clearly emotional, I'll defer..
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And here come the personal attacks. Right on cue. Let me know when you're ready to have a civil conversation.
 
Hicup said:
You're clearly emotional, I'll defer.. Oh, wasn't it you in that Volstock thread that initially liked comments regarding the possibility this guy might have panicked? Changed your mind already, Phys251? I'll wait for more details before I render judgement, questions like what was he doing there in the first place? My initial instinct is the the little piece of **** murdered innocent people by using his car a s weapon, but I could be wrong.


Tim-
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It seems that car wasn't the only weapons allowed at that protest. Someone said earlier that in NY or elsewhere, the police would have confiscated all weapons and not let any vehicles near those type events.

Why were they allowed at this one?
 
WCH said:
It seems that car wasn't the only weapons allowed at that protest. Someone said earlier that in NY or elsewhere, the police would have confiscated all weapons and not let any vehicles near those type events.

Why were they allowed at this one?
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They wanted it to happen. One more thing to blame Trump for.
 
Phys251 said:
Is there some difficulty that you have understanding my words? Do I need to diagram the sentence for you? The struggle you have to properly understand my words is on you and you alone. Now go back and try it again.
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Look ibe politely asked you to explain your complaint multiple times now. Each time you deflect. Im done asking you. Your position is bull****.

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dorsai said:
This is the kind of thing that led to Trump getting elected. This is what identity politics has come to. As a black American, I took that quote to mean "all parties involved in this behavior". That is most certainly the White Supremacists and KKK but also the counter protestors wielding clubs and attacking journalists. Many people are simply sick and tired of the same old crap and same old speech. 54 years ago MLK had a dream of equality where color didn't matter. However, for the 5+ decades since then we are still being pushed on identity politics.

I don't want to be seen as a "black" American. I want to be seen as a citizen, a voter, an IT guy, a photographer, a music lover, a comic nerd, a voracious reader, an artist, a poet, a brother, an uncle, a Texan, etc.. But as long as people keep pointing out I'm black and keep acting on it (or expecting me to be driven by the fact that I'm black), that's what I'll be. When someone says "rising tides lifts all ships", that means ME. Just because they didn't say "black" ships doesn't mean I'm excluded. "Across the board" means ME. "All sides" would mean ME (if I was there). "All citizens" means ME.

These are two groups of violent knuckleheads. All sides were being very anti-American. Failure to recognize that is simply willful ignorance. Claiming a wrong because one side wasn't singled out is at best hypocritical and at worse simply adds fuel to fire that should have been snuffed decades ago if not for identity politics.
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Amen!

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trouble13 said:
Look ibe politely asked you to explain your complaint multiple times now. Each time you deflect. Im done asking you. Your position is bull****.

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So, yes, you are struggling to comprehend what I wrote. Go back and reread my words and try again.
 
Phys251 said:
So, yes, you are struggling to comprehend what I wrote. Go back and reread my words and try again.
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I understand what you wrote just fine. I dont understand what your problem is with Trumps comments or why you refuse to explain it. Are you going to continue to deflect with ad hominems or are you going to give me a straight answer?

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